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2020-09-17, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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That doesn't seem to be the case? The Xenocrysth got in despite its only qualification for the circus scene being that it looks weird and most of the FBS has no source of nausea besides poor living conditions.
There are some examples in the TVTrope's stress vomit page, though your point still seems to stand more or less. It does seem to be more of an anxiety than fear thing (though that does happen and the lines between the two can be pretty blurry).mew
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Have Far Realm entities ever been concidered? I don't know about them in detail, but most of them can be both ugly, scary and strangely beautiful. If we take creatures from Lovecraft books as example for possible Far Realm denizens, quite many of them be having super strength, invulnarability and their own magic ways. Syill they usually eat and can reproduce. It's now late, but if someone wants, we can discuss in more detail tommorow.
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2020-09-17, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-17, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's the strip that mentions MiTD's dad.
Or at least that's the primary bugbear in my "OOTS proteans are genderfluid" theory.mew
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2020-09-18, 05:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-19, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Considering his comment about Xykon's lack of balls he might belong to a species with balls.
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2020-09-19, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-19, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think the idea here is that he needs to have a pair himself in order to have any understanding of what that would actually mean. Or that his species would, at any rate.
Not that i think its a very strong point anyway, we already know the MITD's species has males, and most D&D art is not explicit as to the arrangement of reproductive organs for us to know anyway.Last edited by Keltest; 2020-09-19 at 11:12 AM.
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Can I just mention, this was a weird moment to pop back in on the thread after a couple months without reading it...
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2020-09-21, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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MitD presumably belongs to a "male" sex of a species with two sexes, given him being a "male", having a club that "girls can't join" and specifically having a "dad".
That said, he is not necessarily part of a male sex of a species with two sexes, as said species could easily not abide by normal lines of "a man and a woman" (instead being "any two entities of the same species", with gender being purely a social construct) or in theory reproduce asexually.
At the end of the day, the only thing we have to assume about MitD's gender and birth is that he is of a species that can be born through one means or another. MitD could be male but this is not strictly necessary, especially since "he" is sometimes used as a shorthand for one whose gender is not known.An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2020-09-21, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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So in today's page (#1215), Durkon and Minrah are running away from most of Team Evil. What are the odds they run into the MitD next?
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A.) Since, as you state, the Giant either has scripted MitD's appearance or has not, and thus only two possibilities exist, I interpret the question to be discussion opener. Responding "either 100% or 0%" is not conducive to discussion, so I discard it.
2.) The fact that it is a binary outcome already made by one person has no bearing on what outsiders perceive the odds to be. If I fight against the ghost of Muhammad Ali on Thursday and on Wednesday Ali decides to take a dive, the bookies still take bets, because they are not aware.
iii.) Your own answer also included every set of numbers between 0 and 1, so saying there are only two possibilities while presenting infinite possibilities seems a bit odd.
Any attempts to rebut point iii will just result in even more bad math from me (and the badness will grow exponentially the more it is rebutted).Last edited by Peelee; 2020-09-21 at 10:02 PM.
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2020-09-21, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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No.
That's a weird assertion. I find it to have a lot of bearing on what I, as an outsider, perceive the odds to be. Particularly in the sense that this is not a random event at all, but a deterministic one whose outcome has already been decided, and in that sense it absolutely affects how I perceive the odds, which is why I posted what I did.
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The question can be rephrased as "what are the odds that the author will choose to/to not have MitD next strip," with no change in effective meaning of the question. Since it can be rephrased that way, whether or not it is a deterministic event is irrelevant.
For another example, what are the odds that Bob goes to work tomorrow? Bob could work a M-F office job, could be an entertainer that only performs on booked days, could work two or more jobs with no off days, or could be unemployed. Bob knows exactly whether or not he will go to work tomorrow. That is deterministic. Our knowledge of whether or not Bob will go to work tomorrow is not. We could take the percentages of all people in Bobland to determine the odds - 90% of people in Bobland are employed and work M-F, so it is a high likelihood Bob will go to work tomorrow.
Bob knows for sure. We do not. Thus, we can guess probability.
The author knows for sure. We do not. Thus, we can guess probability (though with far less data and more debatable data than the demographics of Bobland).Last edited by Peelee; 2020-09-22 at 12:01 AM.
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I'm curious, sorry if I'm repeating something often mentioned, but may I ask about the consensus on panel 3 of this comic?
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2020-09-22, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Im not aware that there is one. My personal read is that the MITD is just being a goof with no real scale of the difficulty of actual tasks due to having done absolutely nothing of any importance or difficulty his entire on-screen life. Some people believe it, and other statements like it, to be a literal clue about how his anatomy/powers use up most of his action economy, so he literally physically cant pull things or move very quickly and has legitimate difficulty with simple tasks.
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Yes, it can be hard to get a consensus around here. Since almost everything about MitD is open to interpretation, that's where it tends to end up.
FWIW, many people take it as a clue that MitD has unusual limbs that have trouble grasping things (for example, Hook Horror, ANB, Ha-Naga). It's also among the arguments for the Protean as MitD- if he's using a move action to maintain his shape (and the 2 eyes) every round, instead of being a boiling mass of protoplasm, then performing 2 other actions would seem complicated for him.
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2020-09-22, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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My own interpretation is that it is a reflection of the "men of steel world of cardboard" trope: when MitD pushes something, it gets pushed. When MitD pulls on something, it is likely to fray, bend, snap, break or the like.
But I do enjoy a suggestion that has a good explanation - like poor grasping appendages - that make pushing easy but pulling hard.
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2020-09-22, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Considering the explanation (simultaneously holding and applying strength), the solution (stepping on the rope to hold it, seemingly) and compared with the MitD's 'high minimum push', my take is that it doesn't employ physical prehensile limbs, but rather some telekinetic projection of some kind. After all, the MitD didn't worry about the direction of force, only its concurrency.
Alternatively, single powerful prehensile limb.
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2020-09-22, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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My own personal take (for the tower scene as well) would be MitD has some sort of repulsive quality whenever it tries to touch something. This would make tapping lightly and holding something difficult, but pushing things or hitting horses through walls effortless.
(As for how he holds anything, like the stew bucket, I'd further suggest it was an activated ability and he only does it when he's concentrating too hard on a task.)
Whether this has some merit as an idea, I'm not sure (my pet theory for a while was MitD was an awakened black hole, but that'd be hard to qualify).