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    Default Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    The bugbear Redcloak was talking to probably wasn't Oona, since their mask is different (doesn't have the big antlers).
    I'll take your word for it, but I believe the overall point is unaffected.

    Quote Originally Posted by RatElemental View Post
    The spell doesn't specify what happens to the remains very well. I maintain that a "destructive resonance" causing your body to crush itself doesn't have to go beyond a particularly mangled death by crushing.
    That's what we saw when Redcloak imploded someone while recovering Xykon's phylactery. Panel showed their face being warped (saving throw?), then panel two showed them going sqwrhygiewtch (failed save, takes effect).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pendell View Post
    Rich really is a vegetarian. He mentioned, in the published book's notes, that his description of Malack's plan for industrial style vampirism was a deliberate echo of real-world slaughterhouses. Yes, Rich really is a vegetarian for ethical reasons and he's put it in his strip.

    I have a different viewpoint from him, but I respect his convictions.
    And I am serious in wondering if he would consider opening a business based around butchery to be an evil act. It wouldn't be by RAW, obviously, but OOTS world doesn't run strictly on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arimareiji View Post
    A belated thought... when Durkon walked up, Oona was walking away. Oona didn't know who Durkon was, but what if Xykon asked where Redcloak had gotten off to ?

    Redcloak doesn't hesitate to eliminate even his own loyal people if there's a non-zero chance something could tip off Xykon that he's being double-crossedwrt the Snarl. If Redcloak got even a hint that Xykon might be nearby, let alone saw him, he wouldn't hesitate to Implode Durkon - even if he loved Durkon's idea and was 100% on board.
    This is actually what I am thinking, that RC noticed the lich listening in from somewhere and needs to 'prove' his loyalty so as not to tip him off. Though honestly right now I'm having trouble remembering what it is he is hiding from Xykon. Going to have to go crack open SoD I suppose. Oh darn. :)

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    Default Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread

    No need to go to SoD, there's as complete an explanation as you'll need here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    This is actually what I am thinking, that RC noticed the lich listening in from somewhere and needs to 'prove' his loyalty so as not to tip him off. Though honestly right now I'm having trouble remembering what it is he is hiding from Xykon. Going to have to go crack open SoD I suppose. Oh darn. :)
    Didn't he secretly do something with Xykon's phylactery way back when the Azure City resistance attack happened? I'm pretty sure he swapped the real one out for a fake to use as his holy symbol because he killed that one goblin and said "I'm sorry, but no one else can know what happened down here". . I don't know D&D well enough to know if liches automatically know when their phylactery is destroyed, but if they don't, I assume he most likely secretly destroyed the real one at the same time.

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    My own thoughts on Xykon, based on the size of the bugbear village and the conspicuous(ness? ity? ation?) of the negotiations (in open view, speaking aloud, Giant hammer-wielding dwarf yelling about Thor) means that Xykon is currently not there. Maybe he makes trips to the Astral Plane just to check the fortress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    My own thoughts on Xykon, based on the size of the bugbear village and the conspicuous(ness? ity? ation?) of the negotiations (in open view, speaking aloud, Giant hammer-wielding dwarf yelling about Thor) means that Xykon is currently not there. Maybe he makes trips to the Astral Plane just to check the fortress.
    It is possible that he is doing a few solo runs of the tomb to level up a bit.

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    Default Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread

    As another bit of fridge logic; if Minrah or Durkon takes Redcloaks Holy symbol right now, he is gonna be in a world of problems, most of them being his own fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by WanderingMist View Post
    Didn't he secretly do something with Xykon's phylactery way back when the Azure City resistance attack happened? I'm pretty sure he swapped the real one out for a fake to use as his holy symbol because he killed that one goblin and said "I'm sorry, but no one else can know what happened down here". . I don't know D&D well enough to know if liches automatically know when their phylactery is destroyed, but if they don't, I assume he most likely secretly destroyed the real one at the same time.
    The goblin craftsman was already dead; Redcloak just disintegrated the corpse to tie up loose ends. He gave Xykon a fake, and keeps the real one with him. Liches know if their phylactery is destroyed, so RC's still got the real one, otherwise Xykon would be much angrier and a lot more killy.
    Last edited by Riftwolf; 2020-08-15 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    As another bit of fridge logic; if Minrah or Durkon takes Redcloaks Holy symbol right now, he is gonna be in a world of problems, most of them being his own fault.



    The goblin craftsman was already dead; Redcloak just disintegrated the corpse to tie up loose ends. He gave Xykon a fake, and keeps the real one with him. Liches know if their phylactery is destroyed, so RC's still got the real one, otherwise Xykon would be much angrier and a lot more killy.
    By RAW, nothing says Liches have any knowledge about their phylactery whatsoever. Without it, he just won't have access to his rejuvenation ability anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSSheridan View Post
    Redcloak disagrees about there being three ways to go forward

    Does that mean he sees more ways or fewer?

    I think he's still skeptical about the gods destroying the world

    Can't disagree with facts though
    He thinks "the Plan works exactly as we want it to" is also a valid outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonahFalcon View Post
    Don't worry. Xykon will intervene, and save Durkon because he's interested in what Redcloak is doing chatting with a dwarf.
    Ok, it look a few more strips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonahFalcon View Post
    Ok, it look a few more strips.
    It's a stretch to call what he did "saving Durkon."

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