OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread

[MDR]

A belated thought... when Durkon walked up, Oona was walking away. Oona didn't know who Durkon was, but what if Xykon asked where Redcloak had gotten off to ?

Redcloak doesn't hesitate to eliminate even his own loyal people if there's a non-zero chance something could tip off Xykon that he's being double-crossedwrt the Snarl. If Redcloak got even a hint that Xykon might be nearby, let alone saw him, he wouldn't hesitate to Implode Durkon - even if he loved Durkon's idea and was 100% on board.

This is actually what I am thinking, that RC noticed the lich listening in from somewhere and needs to 'prove' his loyalty so as not to tip him off. Though honestly right now I'm having trouble remembering what it is he is hiding from Xykon. Going to have to go crack open SoD I suppose. Oh darn. :)

[Gurgeh]

No need to go to SoD, there's as complete an explanation as you'll need here.

[WanderingMist]

This is actually what I am thinking, that RC noticed the lich listening in from somewhere and needs to 'prove' his loyalty so as not to tip him off. Though honestly right now I'm having trouble remembering what it is he is hiding from Xykon. Going to have to go crack open SoD I suppose. Oh darn. :)

Didn't he secretly do something with Xykon's phylactery way back when the Azure City resistance attack happened? I'm pretty sure he swapped the real one out for a fake to use as his holy symbol because he killed that one goblin and said "I'm sorry, but no one else can know what happened down here". . I don't know D&D well enough to know if liches automatically know when their phylactery is destroyed, but if they don't, I assume he most likely secretly destroyed the real one at the same time.

[Riftwolf]

My own thoughts on Xykon, based on the size of the bugbear village and the conspicuous(ness? ity? ation?) of the negotiations (in open view, speaking aloud, Giant hammer-wielding dwarf yelling about Thor) means that Xykon is currently not there. Maybe he makes trips to the Astral Plane just to check the fortress.

[dancrilis]

My own thoughts on Xykon, based on the size of the bugbear village and the conspicuous(ness? ity? ation?) of the negotiations (in open view, speaking aloud, Giant hammer-wielding dwarf yelling about Thor) means that Xykon is currently not there. Maybe he makes trips to the Astral Plane just to check the fortress.

It is possible that he is doing a few solo runs of the tomb to level up a bit.

[Riftwolf]

As another bit of fridge logic; if Minrah or Durkon takes Redcloaks Holy symbol right now, he is gonna be in a world of problems, most of them being his own fault.

Didn't he secretly do something with Xykon's phylactery way back when the Azure City resistance attack happened? I'm pretty sure he swapped the real one out for a fake to use as his holy symbol because he killed that one goblin and said "I'm sorry, but no one else can know what happened down here". . I don't know D&D well enough to know if liches automatically know when their phylactery is destroyed, but if they don't, I assume he most likely secretly destroyed the real one at the same time.

The goblin craftsman was already dead; Redcloak just disintegrated the corpse to tie up loose ends. He gave Xykon a fake, and keeps the real one with him. Liches know if their phylactery is destroyed, so RC's still got the real one, otherwise Xykon would be much angrier and a lot more killy.

[Goblin_Priest]

As another bit of fridge logic; if Minrah or Durkon takes Redcloaks Holy symbol right now, he is gonna be in a world of problems, most of them being his own fault.



The goblin craftsman was already dead; Redcloak just disintegrated the corpse to tie up loose ends. He gave Xykon a fake, and keeps the real one with him. Liches know if their phylactery is destroyed, so RC's still got the real one, otherwise Xykon would be much angrier and a lot more killy.

By RAW, nothing says Liches have any knowledge about their phylactery whatsoever. Without it, he just won't have access to his rejuvenation ability anymore.

[The MunchKING]

Redcloak disagrees about there being three ways to go forward

Does that mean he sees more ways or fewer?

I think he's still skeptical about the gods destroying the world

Can't disagree with facts though

He thinks "the Plan works exactly as we want it to" is also a valid outcome.

[JonahFalcon]

Don't worry. Xykon will intervene, and save Durkon because he's interested in what Redcloak is doing chatting with a dwarf.

Ok, it look a few more strips.

[Ruck]

Ok, it look a few more strips.

It's a stretch to call what he did "saving Durkon."