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    "Made my saving throw."

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    Redcloak gets owned by two clerics of Thor in rapid succession! Hahahaha!

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    Interesting - thus begins the discussion on how Implosion works within the universe of The Order of the Stick.

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    "Na as many as ye"

    Man, when Durkon abandons diplomatic politeness, he cuts deep

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    Interesting way of representing what I assumed was Durkon making multiple saves, since the effect can repeat every round till it runs out. RC once again shows he doesn't really consider any path but the one he is committed to an option, he is just in too deep. Also.

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    Interesting - thus begins the discussion on how Implosion works within the universe of The Order of the Stick.
    Seems there's some sort of damage rider on the "Fort Negates"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonus45 View Post
    Interesting way of representing what I assumed was Durkon making multiple saves, since the effect can repeat every round till it runs out. RC once again shows he doesn't really consider any path but the one he is committed to an option, he is just in too deep. Also.

    "Na as many as ye" is dis of the year.
    Implosion, as it works in 3.5, can only target a creature once.
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    Chekov's Minrah FTW.
    Yeah, RC didn't like being called on his compromises, did he?

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    Sticky pickle. They need to get out of there fast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    "Na as many as ye"

    Man, when Durkon abandons diplomatic politeness, he cuts deep

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    "Na as many as ye" is just the best burn Durkon could have ever done.

    Also, Minrah for the win!
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    Seperate to my first thought above - that does not seem subtle, and while Redcloak might be able to deal with both of them on his own a lack of subtlety is likely not the best idea given the other threats around (a bugbear village, a monster in the darkness and lets not forget an Epic Lich - this could go from bad to worse quickly).

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    Well, that went as well as one might have hoped for. At least the offer is on the table, and can start to eat away at what little soul RC has left. All in all, a good opening gambit to the negotiations.

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    That's a level 5 spell*, so I guess Minrah is at least a level 9 Cleric, huh? And multiclassed with Fighter? So she's probably a bit higher level than we previously thought.

    *Assuming it's Righteous Might, which seems likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonus45 View Post
    Interesting way of representing what I assumed was Durkon making multiple saves, since the effect can repeat every round till it runs out. RC once again shows he doesn't really consider any path but the one he is committed to an option, he is just in too deep. Also.

    "Na as many as ye" is dis of the year.
    By the rules though once you make your save you cannot be targeted by that casting of Implosion again -- but the rules of the game are secondary to the rules of drama (or tertiary to the rules of comedy too!)

    So Minrah was flying around in windwalk form with Durkon's hammer just in case, he? Good work, Durkon -- always have a backup plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancrilis View Post
    Seperate to my first thought above - that does not seem subtle, and while Redcloak might be able to deal with both of them on his own a lack of subtlety is likely not the best idea given the other threats around (a bugbear village, a monster in the darkness and lets not forget an Epic Lich - this could go from bad to worse quickly).
    I'd imagine they're just about to turn back into smoke and leave, though. This is not a battle Minrah or Durkon want to fight, nor do they have to.

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    So is she using Durkon's (Thor's) hammer, but without the gloves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylian View Post
    That's a level 5 spell*, so I guess Minrah is at least a level 9 Cleric, huh? And multiclassed with Fighter? So she's probably a bit higher level than we previously thought.

    *Assuming it's Righteous Might, which seems likely.
    Maybe. Anyone recall the rules for Durkon to gift Minrah with the ability to cast a level 5 spell?
    Nevermind, limited to level 2 spells.
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    Well, he didn't bring any weapons. Somedwarf had to hang onto Mjolnir...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vonBoomslang View Post
    Seems there's some sort of damage rider on the "Fort Negates"
    Implosion, as it works in 3.5, can only target a creature once.
    I wonder if rich didn't mentally wander over to the PF version. That one has a damage rider on it. Or it's just the spell working a bit differently in universe because Rich either doesn't care or didn't remember because it's his comic and it works like how he says it does anyways. I look forward to 15 pages of argument on the matter.
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    So, like I said in the thread for the last page of the comic, I'm pretty sure Redcloak's plan has not been revealed. I'm of the opinion there are several red herrings going on in the story (for example, Odin's Prophecy about Durkon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windscion View Post
    Maybe. Anyone recall the rules for Durkon to gift Minrah with the ability to cast a level 5 spell?
    Could it a spell scroll?

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    Im not sure what hit redcloak harder, thors might or durkons response! Either way, he needs a lot of healing right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    I'd imagine they're just about to turn back into smoke and leave, though. This is not a battle Minrah or Durkon want to fight, nor do they have to.

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    That however takes five turns to do (unless the Giant decided that it doesn't) - 30 seconds is sometimes a very long time.

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    Odd. Not how it should've played out according to the SRD. And how long does Implosion take to kill something? Durkon looked like he was writhing in pain for some time. Maybe an entire round?

    I also wonder how much damage he took? He's not as busted up as Nale, post-Harm, but he looks pretty beat up.

    Sure looked better as a story this way though. Yay Minrah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylian View Post
    That's a level 5 spell*, so I guess Minrah is at least a level 9 Cleric, huh? And multiclassed with Fighter? So she's probably a bit higher level than we previously thought.

    *Assuming it's Righteous Might, which seems likely.
    3.5 actually had rules for NPC companions. If Rich is following them (unlikely, but possible) she's 1 level lower than the lowest level member of the party. If we presume the party is 16th-18th that would put her at 15th level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morikahn View Post
    I'm of the opinion there are several red herrings going on in the story (for example, Odin's Prophecy about Durkon).
    Odin's prophecy about Durkon has already become true.

    Quote Originally Posted by dancrilis View Post
    That however takes five turns to do (unless the Giant decided that it doesn't) - 30 seconds is sometimes a very long time.
    Minrah changed form within a couple of castings of implosion, so I think the 30 second rule is not in effect.

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