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2020-08-12, 06:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babies.
Pretty simple question - here panel 2 Durkon explains what happens to dwarven deserters, they get hung for their crimes.
So should this be taken to mean they get executed and if so is there any honour in being executed in such a manner, or are dwarves more like halflings and hanging is not a viable execution method?
Seperately to the deserter question do dwarf babies go to Hel - normally they go to the afterlife of the mother but dwarves default to Hel, and even if the normal mother rules apply if the mother hasn't died she cannot claim to have died with honour so presumedly Hel gets to keep the soul anyway.
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2020-08-12, 06:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
The "babies go to their mother's afterlife" rule isn't exactly fair to begin with and has some other unfortunate implications anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if Hel got all the babies that died by accident, disease (especially disease) or for seemingly no reason at all.
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2020-08-12, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
I remember this one "rule" begin cited here and there, but is it from the author or is it just a wild mass guess?
Because, of course, there is plenty of unfortunate implications, but if it came from the author, it would reinforce a personal belief I have about the way he sees parental figures.
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2020-08-12, 07:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
Yeah it sounds like the deserters are sent to Hel. That’s pretty straightforward to me.
Although Thor is going to try and rescue them anyway.Forum Wisdom
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2020-08-12, 07:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
Yeah deserting is not honorfull, and being executed for that isn't at all. But there could be two points about that:
1) maybe the fear of ending in Hel's afterlife make dwarven deserters 0
2) maybe there is a way out: maybe if you desert you lose your honor, but maybe accepting your guilt and going to the death sentence without fear means that you can go to valhalla. I quite remember Ragnar saying something like that in the first episode of Vikings, and if it works this way, the sentence is also a way to save your soul other then a way to punish you for your crime, and this and point 1 would really sound right with what we know about Dwarven culture in ootsverse.
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2020-08-12, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
Fear of punishment isn’t enough to deter from crime in real life and we know there are dwarven deserters : eighth panel.
2) maybe there is a way out: maybe if you desert you lose your honor, but maybe accepting your guilt and going to the death sentence without fear means that you can go to valhalla. I quite remember Ragnar saying something like that in the first episode of Vikings, and if it works this way, the sentence is also a way to save your soul other then a way to punish you for your crime, and this and point 1 would really sound right with what we know about Dwarven culture in ootsverse.Forum Wisdom
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2020-08-12, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
I have a much more important question: if a dwarf chose to worship Banjo, would their deliverance automatically be to the puppet afterlife?
After all, Banjo was not party to the bet between Hel, Loki, and Thor. There’s no reason he should be bound to its conditions.
Or, did Banjo implicitly give up his divine rights to those souls when he attempted to join the northern pantheon?Last edited by Dion; 2020-08-12 at 08:38 AM.
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2020-08-12, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
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2020-08-12, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2020-08-12, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
So here’s an actual serious question: what would happen to a dwarf who chooses to worship TDO?
Last edited by Dion; 2020-08-12 at 11:33 AM.
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2020-08-12, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Do dwarven deserters get deliberately sent to Hel? Also does she get all the babi
I imagine its the same for all dwarven occupations: desserters, bakers, butchers, etc.
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