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    Default [3.5] Eternally burning flame (that's actually hot)?

    Is there a way to make a true "everburning torch" (or equivalent fire), meaning not just a light effect but actual hot fire that simply burns forever?

    Please don't get cutesy and start enslaving fire elementals or ripping open portals to the elemental plane of fire or anything like that. I don't want fiery creatures or fiery planar effects or permanencied flaming spheres or whatever. I just want something that, like, is a campfire that you never need to feed--ever--but that does everything a campfire should do. Keep it simple.

    Fuel that burns forever without being consumed would also be fine. (Let's not get into "yeah well wood has hardness 5 and fire doesn't ignore it and also deals half damage to objects" because that's a different joke than where I want to end up, kk?)

    I feel like there's something like this in the 3.5 canon, right?
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    A +1 Flaming Club.

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    I'm assuming custom magic items or alchemicals are out.

    flaming weapon maybe?
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    Default Re: [3.5] Eternally burning flame (that's actually hot)?

    Wall of Fire can be made subject to permanency on explicit RAW. You can make opaque walls of flame up to - i.e. doesn't have to be - 20 feet long. Or indeed in a ring of fire up to 5 feet radius. I can't help it if you like your fires red rather than purple.

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    There is a material in the plane of fire that is constantly irradiating gigantic amounts of heat like a star or something and it was used in a theoretical "terraform a planet entirely made by create stone wall traps".

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    I would normally go for Improved Familiar or Elemental Companion and grab a fire elemental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noob View Post
    There is a material in the plane of fire that is constantly irradiating gigantic amounts of heat like a star or something and it was used in a theoretical "terraform a planet entirely made by create stone wall traps".
    Anyone got anything more on this?
    I need it for..science.
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    Hmm... there's an artifact called the Pyre of Pelor in Dungeon 96...

    Tindertwigs (PHB, SRD) don't technically say they ever go out, and although it's basically a match, it just says the alchemical part lights on fire, not the wood.

    Aha! There's a Stove of Everlasting Flame specifically meant to cook food in the AEG. Light of a candle, heat of a torch, folds up in a box when not in use.
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    Adding flaming (or a weapon crystal that adds flaming) to a morphing/sizing weapon will allow you to alter the size and shape of the flaming weapon so you can use it for various things. You want a magic torch that never goes out that you can carry even when weapons aren't allowed? A club sized for a Small or Tiny creature. A barbecue pit that's 20' long that you want to use for a banquet? A Gargantuan quarterstaff with flaming on both ends, with a flaming bayonet added to the center, that's laid lengthwise in a pit. A simple match you can use to light a much larger fire? A Tiny baton with the end alight.

    Of course, a cursed morphing weapon that can turn into tools (but not weapons) could have a lot of functionality, too.

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    Produce Flame creates a flame the size and brightness of a torch which deals fire damage. Seems like the ideal spell to use as a base for a continuous magic item that replicates a mundane torch permanently.

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    Get a piece of Terrasque and light it on fire?

    A +1 flaming monk?
    Want dancing flames? +1 flaming battledancer.
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    I also see nobody's made a Bangles joke yet, so here it is: is this burning an eternal flaaaaammmmme?

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    How about the Animated Object (firewood) with some templates for fast healing or/and fire resistance?

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    +1 shuriken or sling bullets, priced as ammo, same rules for activation as melee weapons (lots of people overlook those because they're horrible). Those should work but you can do arrows too because they can explicitly be used as improvised melee weapons.

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    I also see nobody's made a Bangles joke yet, so here it is: is this burning an eternal flaaaaammmmme?
    Still well convinced this song is about gonorrhea.

    ... not that I'd have any experience.

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    Anyone got anything more on this?
    I need it for..science.
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    I remember something, but you gotta bear with me.

    A long time ago, I used to read the Joe Dever books about the Kai Lords. One of the items you could find was the Kelti fire sphere. A small metal ball that held an endless flame.

    Well, as it turns out, I've seen it (along with several other things from said series) converted into items for D&D. The thing is, I don't remember where. It could have been a Dragon issue, or from and old Inquest or Scryed issue. It could have been from any number of gaming magazines from the late 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzerdrix View Post
    I remember something, but you gotta bear with me.

    A long time ago, I used to read the Joe Dever books about the Kai Lords. One of the items you could find was the Kelti fire sphere. A small metal ball that held an endless flame.

    Well, as it turns out, I've seen it (along with several other things from said series) converted into items for D&D. The thing is, I don't remember where. It could have been a Dragon issue, or from and old Inquest or Scryed issue. It could have been from any number of gaming magazines from the late 90s.
    Wikipedia says his world was released by Mongoose as a d20 game, maybe it was in there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronk View Post
    Wikipedia says his world was released by Mongoose as a d20 game, maybe it was in there...
    Not where I saw it, but I will be looking that over. Thank you.
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    Edit- I understand it now, Fighters are like a status symbol. If you're well off enough to own a living Fighter, you must be pretty well off!

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    Is pathfinder's Campfire Bead in the 3.5 list anywhere?

    Activated item, transforms into a campfire that lasts up to 8 hours. Requires a 2 hour recharge time for each hour burnt (or something like that. I had a party in pathfinder's winter is year round land talk about getting 3 for 24 hour fire coverage.)
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    The Kalte Firesphere has a clay exterior and can be split into two halves, each of which has a small flame, which sheds light as a candle does, but which can also be used to cook food. The sphere can be destroyed by the two halves being separated by more than 30 feet, or when thrown as a grenade (10 feet increment, 5d6 fire damage).

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