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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecrusher Doc View Post
    So New Yorkers are only from New York city, while people from other parts of the state of New York are...?

    I wish there was a difference, but people from Washington State and people from Washington, DC are both called "Washingtonians."

    You just have to infer from context. In fact, in the state of Washington people frequently say they are from "Washington State" to make things clear. Whereas people from Oregon of course don't say, "I'm from Oregon State."

    I don't suppose it would make sense to insist that people from Washington DC call themselves Columbians!
    Maybe they should be Capitolists.
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    Maybe they should be Capitolists.
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    So New Yorkers are only from New York city, while people from other parts of the state of New York are...?
    How about new Yorkers and New Yorkians as well as Washingtoners and Washingtonians?
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    Maybe they should be Capitolists.
    In my experience people who actually have to live in DC just call themselves "miserable".

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    In my experience people who actually have to live in DC just call themselves "miserable".
    Maybe they would be happier if they were able to have roads instead of a lot of interconnected lines of potholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    How about new Yorkers and New Yorkians as well as Washingtoners and Washingtonians?
    Since they were amongst the first to legalize certain recreational drug in the US, maybe the appropriate name should be Washingstoners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Maybe they would be happier if they were able to have roads instead of a lot of interconnected lines of potholes.
    They just need to be introduced to Detroit roads. Everything seems better when you have something horrible to compare it to.

    Speaking of DC, I find that now that I live in relative proximity thereto that I confuse people when I mention that my wife is from "north west Washington". Seems that the north-west side of the capitol district is rather a crime ridden slum. I think I have stared a half dozen people down in confusion over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    They just need to be introduced to Detroit roads. Everything seems better when you have something horrible to compare it to.

    Speaking of DC, I find that now that I live in relative proximity thereto that I confuse people when I mention that my wife is from "north west Washington". Seems that the north-west side of the capitol district is rather a crime ridden slum. I think I have stared a half dozen people down in confusion over this.
    Maybe try a different route. Something like "Southern Canada. Really southern."
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    Maybe try a different route. Something like "Southern Canada. Really southern."
    I mean I could change to saying "the Puget sound", but I feel like continuing to confuse people.
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    How about new Yorkers and New Yorkians as well as Washingtoners and Washingtonians?
    We prefer New Yorkers while the city prefers New Yaw-kas.
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    Hmm; as a New Yorker living outside the city I don't find that in my region. Are you from Long Island?

    Plus you have me thinking about how NYC people often like to refer to themselves by borough : Brooklynite, Staten Islander, Manhattanite. Funny how people from Queens & the Bronx refer to themselves as "Queens residents" and "from da Bronx" respectively.
    Well, we "Queenian" or "Queenite" sounds dumb and if we just call ourselves "Queens", that implies something else entirely.

    But seriously, at least for Queens in particular, we often think of ourselves as being from particular neighborhoods: Astoria, Jackson Heights, Forest Hills, Rego Park, etc. Even on our mail, we write "Astoria, NY" not "Queens, NY" (unlike Brooklynites or are more likely to just put "Brooklyn, NY"). So we are more likely to use group names that reflect that (eg "Astorian"). Can't speak for how they do it in the Bronx.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecrusher Doc View Post
    So New Yorkers are only from New York city, while people from other parts of the state of New York are...?
    Not to be discussed unless absolutely necessary.

    Though I suppose, again, people mostly identify with a region or town in that case, like Albanite or... what would call someone from Buffalo anyway? Buffalonian?

    Though it doesn't get too much worse than the nickname people from my home state of Massachusetts got stuck with....

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    People from Bozeman, montana are called bozos.

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    People from Bozeman, montana are called bozos.
    That's no way to talk about Zefram Cochrane!
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    Though it doesn't get too much worse than the nickname people from my home state of Massachusetts got stuck with....
    Matt Damon?

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    Some of my favourites:

    Savoy -> Savoyard
    Manchester -> Mancunian
    Monaco -> Monégasque
    Barbados -> Bajan
    Netherlands -> Dutch
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    The "-ard" onn "Savoyard" is just a marginally unusual ending, comparable to "Lombard"

    Mancunian is a fairly modern coinage from the supposed Roman name for the town, Mancunium. "Manchester" itself purports at a Roman origin, as all -chester, -cester or -caster towns and cities do (being Anglicised versions of caestrum, a Roman army camp.

    Monegasque is from the name for the town in the old native Romance language, translated into French.

    Bajan derives from Barbados by a series of successive shortenings and then affricating the middle consonant.

    "Dutch" simply means "the people" in that language (as in German). More of the issue here is that the modern Netherlands neither contains the whole of the Dutch-speaking people, nor the whole of the Netherlands. Like the USA, it's a collection of states which owes its unity to historic political factors more than anything else. So neither name is really all that satisfactory for it, but there's also not a lot else. ("Holland" is commonly used in English instead, which is at least geographically specific, but a bit like calling the USA "New York").

    No idea where "Cockney" comes from. Though true Cockneys are increasingly an endangered species in any case.
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    No idea where "Cockney" comes from. Though true Cockneys are increasingly an endangered species in any case.
    I've read somewhere that "cockney" comes through a circuitous route from some 1600's slang or something like that, where people from "the big cities" were called "cockled eggs" because they were too soft or something.

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