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    Doesn't Marvel have some usual shtick about oo much insanity making you immune to mind control, absorption and other hypnotizing/altering powers? Such as Deadpool being "too crazy to go insane" or someone with absolutely no remorse being totally immune to Ghost Rider's stare?
    Depends on whether Ghost Rider is the protagonist or not. When he is, the whole point of the Penance Stare is to punish people who don't feel remorse. But when he's in teamups, basically anyone who isn't crippled with guilt can shake it off.
    Though IIRC symbiotes are immune to the Penance Stare... because they don't have eyes (Venom's are purely aesthetic and he doesn't use them to see).

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    Crona won. I'm not sure if they downplayed Venom's feats in the whole god arc he went through, or if I overestimated Venom's regeneration. They do make a point that Crona's sound attacks are powerful enough to kill super-powered people without a weakness to sound, so Venom not being quite as weak to sound as he used to be wouldn't really help that much.

    I am disappointed that they didn't ask if Crona would be able to absorb Venom, or drive them insane. They just went by pure physical feats, and deemed Crona's to be higher. Which yeah, they are for the feats chosen. I just don't know if they ignored feats from Ultimate Carnage and the like.


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    As soon as they mentioned her moon covering sonic attack I knew it was over, resistance or not.


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    Eh, I'd say that Divine Slaying might have made this a closer fight if it had been taken into account.

    ...Also, there was one occasion where an insane Venom was able to overpower the Juggernaut. Not just stop him but send him in another direction.

    The Juggernaut was strong enough to match The Green Scar during World War Hulk. The is persona strong enough to shake planets apart by walking on them.

    So, by the transitive property that Screw Attack loves so much... I don't know how it compares to Crona's greatest feat of strength but overpowering the Juggernaut has gotta be up there.

    If we go full "Hal Jordon" treatment on Venom then there's regenerating from small scraps+plant control(from Groot) and planet-destroying blasts of concentrated sunlight(from Carol Danvers) as both were previous hosts of Venom.

    And the combined powers of Ghost Rider and Red Hulk, if you wanna get Silly with this Hal Jorden treatment.
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    Pink haired waif-looking anime girl is secretly monstrously powerful. I feel like we've seen that before. Though I have to admit, I'm curious about her series now. It looks hilariously deranged and the idea of a protagonist who just wants nothing to do with everything, but keeps getting dragged into it amuses me.

    It is a little odd that both symbiotes lost to a pink haired anime girl, though. Could they not have found something that wasn't a total rerun?


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    Pink haired waif-looking anime girl is secretly monstrously powerful. I feel like we've seen that before. Though I have to admit, I'm curious about her series now. It looks hilariously deranged and the idea of a protagonist who just wants nothing to do with everything, but keeps getting dragged into it amuses me.

    It is a little odd that both symbiotes lost to a pink haired anime girl, though. Could they not have found something that wasn't a total rerun?


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    Crona is the antagonist, not the protagonist. Soul Eater is pretty hilariously deranged though, no arguments there.
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    Actually, I am looking forward to this. You'd think Blue Team would have it thanks to their literal tank, but Red Team has neutralized that pretty easily before with Donut's long-range precision grenade throws, so it'll probably come down to an actual fight between the individual members. And Church's aim is so bad I've long suspected he's literally under the effects of Aasimov's 1st law and just hasn't realized it (which Halo AIs can override fairly easily... but not while fragmented, like Church is). OTOH, Caboose is stupidly strong, which might be enough to make up for that.

    Also, I wonder what season they're going with for RvB. Looks like the 1st 5 (the Blood Gulch Chronicles) based on the clip they showed, which is probably the most fair, since Blue team picks up all sorts of stuff later in the series that would give them an enormous edge... most notably Agent Washington, who would basically guarantee their victory.
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    Eh, I'd say that Divine Slaying might have made this a closer fight if it had been taken into account.

    ...Also, there was one occasion where an insane Venom was able to overpower the Juggernaut. Not just stop him but send him in another direction.

    The Juggernaut was strong enough to match The Green Scar during World War Hulk. The is persona strong enough to shake planets apart by walking on them.

    So, by the transitive property that Screw Attack loves so much... I don't know how it compares to Crona's greatest feat of strength but overpowering the Juggernaut has gotta be up there.

    If we go full "Hal Jordon" treatment on Venom then there's regenerating from small scraps+plant control(from Groot) and planet-destroying blasts of concentrated sunlight(from Carol Danvers) as both were previous hosts of Venom.

    And the combined powers of Ghost Rider and Red Hulk, if you wanna get Silly with this Hal Jorden treatment.
    Eh, he's not DC though, so they aint going that far for him. And stopping Juggernaut stopped being a feat when Jean did it. Solo.

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    ...Also, there was one occasion where an insane Venom was able to overpower the Juggernaut. Not just stop him but send him in another direction.
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    Wasn't Venom massively amped up on Toxic Mercury when he fought Juggernaut, though?

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    Wasn't Venom massively amped up on Toxic Mercury when he fought Juggernaut, though?
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    That drove it insane but wasn't said to power it up IIRC.

    Even if it had, if that had empowered it, that empowerment would have been permanent due to how symbiote biology works.

    And finally: See them taking a feat of strength that Billy Batson did while at least 100 times as strong as normal as his normal strength and it being the reason he beat Captain Marvel. Temporary or permanent means nothing.
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    Yea I think he was, and like a lot of the powerups that supers get it's never clear if that stayed or left. And on the subject of his feats in the angry god carnage stuff he really didn't have many, that arc was a long list of insane bull**** carnage did more then anything else and there is enough argument on how long codes stuff lasts, combined with how recent it actually was, that it's very difficult to really place how much of that should carry over to venom.
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    That drove it insane but wasn't said to power it up IIRC.

    Even if it had, if that had empowered it, that empowerment would have been permanent due to how symbiote biology works.
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    I remember that storyline clearly- Eddie ran into the toxic mercury, went bonkers and got a massive strength boost, it wore off, he decided he wasn't a fan of being quite that nuts, then ran into the Juggernaut, got crushed, and went back to the toxic mercury for the temporary strength boost again. So not a permanent empowerment, especially since it seemed to mess up the symbiote's shapeshifting, with two (involuntary) extra arms and a bunch of screwed up mini-Venom heads sprouting all over his shoulders and upper torso. It was a weird storyline.

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