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2020-09-02, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Got treat.
"They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2020-09-02, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Thanks Giant!
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To freeze in order to ignite; To find myself within, and not fear the edge
To die in order to be reborn to the new world
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2020-09-02, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Judging by the "crack" in panel four, we're about to see what's inside Kraagor's statue. Kraagor?
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2020-09-02, 10:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Oona's great again.
Evil, but still great.
She and Greyview are the best part of Team Evil."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2020-09-02, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
That was another excellent post, though I do wonder how Oona is a Shaman(ish being) with so little Wis in addition to Int (given that she should ahve noticed the signs of a spell vanishing etc).
Still, laughed hard, well done!A neutron walks into a bar and says, “How much for a beer?” The bartender says, “For you? No charge.”
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2020-09-02, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
I lowkey ship Oona and Redcloak.
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2020-09-02, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Good manners are being rewarded!
Despite his jab I think Redcloak appreciates having someone like Oona around. Every sane man needs a cloudcuckoolander.
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2020-09-02, 11:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
I know opinions on Redcloak have...fluctuated...but I'm still so looking forward to a goblin team-up battle. Don't think the comic has had one since Redcloak and Jirix in the Azure City throne room.
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2020-09-02, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
D&D 3.5ish combat question as it applies to the tag team on Minrah.
a. Greyview chomps and also seems to grab Minrah. (Panel's 6 and 7)
b. Title of strip is Grab and Smash.
Question: Did Oona's double mace attack get a benefit to hit, and/or to damage, due to Greyview having (apparently) grappled Minrah?
Also, thanks to @QwertyShrdlu for pointing out the red line crack on the statue. I'd not have noticed that but for your mentioning it.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-02 at 11:17 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2020-09-02, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
I read it very differently - I think he is frowning at her in panel 1 and 3.
I think he wants people to respect his authority and she doesn't, which leads me to wonder how they were recruited in the first place - and I have to wonder the hand that Xykon played in it.
I think that was just Greyview tripping her (Worgs are good at that) and Oona hitting her before she hit the ground as a visual item.
As for the red line - I believe those are the statue's glasses.Last edited by dancrilis; 2020-09-02 at 11:21 AM.
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2020-09-02, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Redcloak seems annoyed that Oona is not being what he perceives as serious, which may partly originate from wanting to get this over quickly and partly because he’s been humoring Xykon for way too long and he’s fed up with that sort of behavior in general.
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2020-09-02, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
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Redcloak seems annoyed that Oona is not being what he perceives as serious, which may partly originate from wanting to get this over quickly and partly because he’s been humoring Xykon for way too long and he’s fed up with that sort of behavior in general.
As I read it, Xykon's in his own category of annoying for Redcloak for a host of reasons.
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Aside: I just had a call back to a TV movie from - gah, is it that long?- over 40 years ago (Breaking Away) about bike riders and the University of Indiana, and the local folks referred to as "Cutters" which comes from working in stone quarries.
Did you used to cut stone? I read 'xcutter' as "ex Cutter" as in "someone who once cut stones". I know, it's a reach, but that's what happens now and again, something goes "ding" in my head and I ask oddball questions.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-02 at 11:32 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2020-09-02, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Oh he's definitely annoyed, but... in a good way?
What I'm thinking is that compared to the rest of Team Evil she's like a godsent for Redcloak. He hates Xykon with every ounce of his being and MitD is, so far as Redcloak knows, a dim-witted child.
Oona is quirky, but also smart, friendly, helpful and a goblinoid. Basically I imagine that even with people he can get along with Redcloak is a bit of a grump.
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2020-09-02, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
I've got Oona pegged at Neutral Evil now, though she's a polite and cheery Neutral Evil. I think that if you admit that you have serious questions about who you are being asked to kill and why, but you go ahead anyway because an ally (who avoided directly answering your question) asked nicely and you can't think of a reason not to kill people you don't know anything about, then your outlook is essentially evil.
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2020-09-02, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 11:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Kinda like me some days, particularly when the coffee is a surprise pot of decaf at work.
I am afraid of starting an alignment furball here - please let's not - but within the context of D&Disms simply killing is not inherently evil. That's why I am down for neutral, and also because these are intruders to her village.Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2020-09-02, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-02, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
Second known member of the Greyview Appreciation Society
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2020-09-02, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Technically you are still invading whether you come to negotiate or not - for instance you get home from work and a stranger is in your house seeking to negotiate with you about something, they have still invaded - you might listen to them but that doesn't change the base line reality that they should have called ahead and meet you in a neutral location if you were willing to speak to them, not showed up in your territory without invitation.
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2020-09-02, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-02, 12:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
It was an example - if the person is in your garden or your forest or whatever they are still invading your territory.
I suspect that they Bugbear's regard the whole of monster hollow and the village and a fair bit around as their territory.Last edited by dancrilis; 2020-09-02 at 12:23 PM.
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2020-09-02, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
Well, the "good" action when confronted with a racial enemy in your territory would be to find out who they are and why they are in your territory, and only use force if they won't leave when you don't accept their reasons or if they are actively hostile.
The "neutral" action would be to forcibly escort them out and use lethal force only if they resist, and you may or may not give them a chance to explain their presence afterwards.
The "evil" action is to try to just kill them because they are your racial enemies, without giving them a chance to explain their presence or caring much if they have trespassed.
Oona gets a little wiggle room because it's not clear what she saw. If she came back and saw a fight already going on between her ally and racial enemies then she might even be classed as "good" for attacking immediately to defend her ally, but we know she didn't intervene immediately. If she saw Red Cloak talking with an unarmed Durkon peacefully and then attacking him, then she is at best "neutral" and probably "evil" in attacking with intent to kill without further explanation.
Edit: Note also that Oona was present when Durkon first showed up. She may have left and come back, or she may have stayed and seen the whole debate, though she may not have understood it (does she speak Common?).Last edited by Jason; 2020-09-02 at 12:41 PM.
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2020-09-02, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1213 - The Discussion Thread
"Big faces are getting big maces!"
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2020-09-02, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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