Pokémon Thread XXX: Hot Skitty on Wailord Action!

[LaZodiac]

AND IT'S ALL CANON.

I contest this. It may have been released in Japan, but given nothing like this has ever come out again, and has no doubt been contradicted quite a number of times... like how there is no Franch, and so on, I think it is safe to call this quasi canon at best.

[Bartmanhomer]

I wish that the Kanto Region Pokemon have more Dragons and ghosts.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Something I observed during GO Fest today: why does Magikarp flop around like a landed fish but Feebas doesn’t? They’re both rather useless until they evolve, they have the same body style, why does Feebas get to look more dignified?

[Bartmanhomer]

Something I observed during GO Fest today: why does Magikarp flop around like a landed fish but Feebas doesn’t? They’re both rather useless until they evolve, they have the same body style, why does Feebas get to look more dignified?

I don't know. There are so many things in Pokemon that don't make any sense. Such as why Arceus is a Pokemon Deity and Mew isn't even though Mew is the first mythical Pokemon in the first generation.

[Fable Wright]

Something I observed during GO Fest today: why does Magikarp flop around like a landed fish but Feebas doesn’t? They’re both rather useless until they evolve, they have the same body style, why does Feebas get to look more dignified?

The same reason wailord and wailmer don't look like beached whales, and tentacools still have their shape: It's a problem with Magikarp, not the other fish. I think it's a defense mechanism—if they look too pathetic to bully, then the humans leave them alone, right?

[LibraryOgre]

Something I observed during GO Fest today: why does Magikarp flop around like a landed fish but Feebas doesn’t? They’re both rather useless until they evolve, they have the same body style, why does Feebas get to look more dignified?

I am so goddamned close to being able to evolve Flopsie, my Magikarp companion. SO. DAMN. CLOSE.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

I am so goddamned close to being able to evolve Flopsie, my Magikarp companion. SO. DAMN. CLOSE.

Quick question: do you have the quest 'A Mythical Discovery' active? Because if so, wait on evolving Flopsie once you get the candies, because one of the steps of the quest requires you to evolve Magikarp. (No one warned me when I started, so I ended up having to evolve a second Magikarp. )

But as far as getting candies in the first place, if you've already got Flopsie set as your Buddy but no time to walk, I've found that shaking the phone up and down is often sufficient to fool the pedometer into thinking you're walking. Also, opening gifts from friends frequently results in Pinap Berries (and near as I can tell, only Pinap Berries with no Razz or Nanab) so when you do run across wild Magikarp you'll have a bigger stock to double the catch candies with.

[LibraryOgre]

Quick question: do you have the quest 'A Mythical Discovery' active? Because if so, wait on evolving Flopsie once you get the candies, because one of the steps of the quest requires you to evolve Magikarp. (No one warned me when I started, so I ended up having to evolve a second Magikarp. )

But as far as getting candies in the first place, if you've already got Flopsie set as your Buddy but no time to walk, I've found that shaking the phone up and down is often sufficient to fool the pedometer into thinking you're walking. Also, opening gifts from friends frequently results in Pinap Berries (and near as I can tell, only Pinap Berries with no Razz or Nanab) so when you do run across wild Magikarp you'll have a bigger stock to double the catch candies with.

I've got it active, which is why Flopsie is my active companion. Ironically, I am far enough along that the 5 rare candies I get from that quest would be enough to evolve Flopsie.

[Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins]

Something I observed during GO Fest today: why does Magikarp flop around like a landed fish but Feebas doesn’t? They’re both rather useless until they evolve, they have the same body style, why does Feebas get to look more dignified?

Feebas is a stronger fish. In game they fill the same niche, sure, but conceptually they're pretty different. Magikarp is first presented in the first games as a scam, you literally paid for a useless fish. With diligence the most pathetic creature becomes a powerhouse, one that legendarily craves further violence.

Feebas is just supposed to be ugly. It's weakness isn't baked into the core of its presentation, instead pokedex entries emphasize its shabbiness. And then with diligence (but a different kind, fighting the Beauty stat instead of actual opponents) it becomes a creature of beauty. It's also initially much harder to find. A diamond in the rough, perhaps.

Anyway. It's Ugly Duckling instead of Charles Atlas.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

I've got it active, which is why Flopsie is my active companion. Ironically, I am far enough along that the 5 rare candies I get from that quest would be enough to evolve Flopsie.

So did you get Flopsie evolved?

[LibraryOgre]

So did you get Flopsie evolved?

4 short. My weekends don't give me much play time.

[Man_Over_Game]

Been playing Pokemon Unite. It's a free MOBA on switch. It encourages a lot of mobility and combat, has a lot of subtle nuances that rewards players that know how to play (like how jungling is a big deal, and rewards only go to the team that lands the last hit).

It's pretty clever, and not a badly designed MOBA, it's just tricky to find the right pokemon to play since a lot of them have unique playstyles and combos that aren't obvious until you've played them a few times.

It also does a pretty good job of making no position boring. For instance, the starter support you can get focuses on landing sticky bombs that heal allies if they're caught in the explosion, or sending out a terrain effect that speeds up allies and slows enemies, so you're encouraged to still be aggressive and stay active in the game.

[Qwertystop]

It is a bit too aggressive about monetization, though. Real-money to get and upgrade stat-boost items, and an extremely slow trickle of currency to unlock more playables.

[danzibr]

Man. Been trying to make decent teams in PoGo, made a big realization.

Was looking at top attackers in type. I wanted the top few of each type (non-mega), going for a nice spread over the best teams.

But then I was looking at their actual damage output... the top non-mega Psychic attacker, for example, is over 6x as "good" (using good ol' dps^3*tdo) as the top Bug. Even if we did a weighted geometric mean, that's still ~60% better.

Granted that's a bit extreme. Psychic has Shadow Mewtwo, and Bug is garbage... but still, even with super effective damage, the top Bug attackers *still* lose out to other types that aren't hitting for super effective. Kind of disappointing.

But then again, if you have no problems beating any content, it doesn't really matter.

Looking at the top 75 dps^3*tdo (based on both moves having STAB, and single best of a given type), there are 0 Poison, Bug, Fairy. Oof.

[LibraryOgre]

Flopsie has evolved! He's now a 2340... not my biggest, but a respectable size and my second strongest water (after a Vaporeon).

[Bartmanhomer]

Flopsie has evolved! He's now a 2340... not my biggest, but a respectable size and my second strongest water (after a Vaporeon).

Congratulations for getting Flopsie Pokevolved.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Word of warning for the next POGO Community Day, which is Eevee - the news article says they're reducing the number of hearts you need for Sylveon, but it doesn't say anything about reducing the amount of walking you need to do for Espeon/Umbreon. So if you want your Shadow Ball Espeon or your Psychic Umbreon, start getting those km in now!

Flopsie has evolved! He's now a 2340... not my biggest, but a respectable size and my second strongest water (after a Vaporeon).

Congrats! :D

[danzibr]

Flopsie has evolved! He's now a 2340... not my biggest, but a respectable size and my second strongest water (after a Vaporeon).

Grats!

Word of warning though, CP isn't a great indicator for performance in battle. Moves are way more important. For level 40 Gyarados, best Water moveset gives dps^3*tdo of 1321, and for level 40 Vaporeon it's 915.

Word of warning for the next POGO Community Day, which is Eevee - the news article says they're reducing the number of hearts you need for Sylveon, but it doesn't say anything about reducing the amount of walking you need to do for Espeon/Umbreon. So if you want your Shadow Ball Espeon or your Psychic Umbreon, start getting those km in now!

Man, I'm super excited for this. Eevee's one of my favorite Pokemon, I started playing again shortly after the last Eevee day, missed all those shinies. I'm looking to get a complete set (1 of each normal, 1 of each shiny). As-is I only have 2 shiny Eevees.

[Rater202]

Thought experiment.

You are a mad scientist.

You have obtained a copy of the MewTwo genome. You have also obtained other Pokemon DNA samples and a lot of data about regional Pokemon.

Your mysterious, possibly evil employer wants you to make a regional Varient Mewtwo, the best possible variant you can.

What do you do?

My gut instinct would be to go for whatever type would give the best defensive "upgrade" over a pure psychic type but that's just me.

[Lord Raziere]

Thought experiment.

You are a mad scientist.

You have obtained a copy of the MewTwo genome. You have also obtained other Pokemon DNA samples and a lot of data about regional Pokemon.

Your mysterious, possibly evil employer wants you to make a regional Varient Mewtwo, the best possible variant you can.

What do you do?

My gut instinct would be to go for whatever type would give the best defensive "upgrade" over a pure psychic type but that's just me.

Make two. the boss gets the weaker one, I secretly make the stronger one which I raise with care so that they're loyal to me, then when the evil employer inevitably mistreats their weaker version I take over with my loyal one, possibly even convince the weaker one to join my side during or afterwards.

[Fredaintdead]

Thought experiment.

You are a mad scientist.

You have obtained a copy of the MewTwo genome. You have also obtained other Pokemon DNA samples and a lot of data about regional Pokemon.

Your mysterious, possibly evil employer wants you to make a regional Varient Mewtwo, the best possible variant you can.

What do you do?

My gut instinct would be to go for whatever type would give the best defensive "upgrade" over a pure psychic type but that's just me.

Yeah, I gotta agree with your gut there. I'm making a Psychic/Steel Mecha-Mewtwo and raising it as if it were my own child. That way 1) It's less likely to go on rampages as it understands love, and 2) When evil boss guy inevitably tries to remove me, my Super-Robo-Child will defend me by vaporising him.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

Yeah, I gotta agree with your gut there. I'm making a Psychic/Steel Mecha-Mewtwo and raising it as if it were my own child. That way 1) It's less likely to go on rampages as it understands love, and 2) When evil boss guy inevitably tries to remove me, my Super-Robo-Child will defend me by vaporising him.

I thought about Steel too, but it got nerfed and doesn’t protect against Ghost or Dark moves anymore.

But if we’re using pre-Gen VI Steel then Psychic/Steel is probably good enough. Otherwise I’d go bonkers, make it typeless and give it Wonder Guard as a special Ability, give it a pair of Safety Goggles and hmmm…maybe Heal Bell. Or Safeguard which Mewtwo gets normally. Something to protect against damaging statuses, at any rate.

[Fable Wright]

Your mysterious, possibly evil employer wants you to make a regional Varient Mewtwo, the best possible variant you can.

What do you do?

My gut instinct would be to go for whatever type would give the best defensive "upgrade" over a pure psychic type but that's just me.

I'd probably go with mixing in Faerie type.

Fairy typing is used for guardian deities, happy go lucky mons, and mons who form deep emotional bonds with their trainers. In other words, it's the most emotionally stable type, the one that gives Mewtwo something to really and truly care about other than everything hurts.

I figure that it's the typing that is least likely to get me killed by an out of control Mewtwo, and the one most likely to stand up against my boss but not kill me if I show it kindness.

[Fredaintdead]

I thought about Steel too, but it got nerfed and doesn’t protect against Ghost or Dark moves anymore.

But if we’re using pre-Gen VI Steel then Psychic/Steel is probably good enough. Otherwise I’d go bonkers, make it typeless and give it Wonder Guard as a special Ability, give it a pair of Safety Goggles and hmmm…maybe Heal Bell. Or Safeguard which Mewtwo gets normally. Something to protect against damaging statuses, at any rate.

I mean yeah, Psychic/Steel is not as good as it used to be, but it still gives the best number of resistances as far as I can tell (9 resistances and 1 immunity for 4 weaknesses, none of which are more than x2)

Honestly I'm less trying to make something absolutely optimised and more just "Mecha-Mewtwo would be cool I bet I could do some real Digimon-level silliness with that and stick like, eleven buster cannons in there."

[Qwertystop]

I'd probably go with mixing in Faerie type.

Fairy typing is used for guardian deities, happy go lucky mons, and mons who form deep emotional bonds with their trainers. In other words, it's the most emotionally stable type, the one that gives Mewtwo something to really and truly care about other than everything hurts.

I figure that it's the typing that is least likely to get me killed by an out of control Mewtwo, and the one most likely to stand up against my boss but not kill me if I show it kindness.

It also includes Hatterene, which will kill you for being too loud.

[Bartmanhomer]

I wonder if there's a Dark/Fairy type Pokemon that exists in Pokemon games? If not, then they should make one.

[Fable Wright]

I wonder if there's a Dark/Fairy type Pokemon that exists in Pokemon games? If not, then they should make one.

...They already did. It's Impidimp's evolutionary line.

[Bartmanhomer]

...They already did. It's Impidimp's evolutionary line.

Cool. I check out Impidimp's evolutionary line and it's awesome.

[Techwarrior]

Thought experiment.

You are a mad scientist.

You have obtained a copy of the MewTwo genome. You have also obtained other Pokemon DNA samples and a lot of data about regional Pokemon.

Your mysterious, possibly evil employer wants you to make a regional Varient Mewtwo, the best possible variant you can.

What do you do?

My gut instinct would be to go for whatever type would give the best defensive "upgrade" over a pure psychic type but that's just me.

Flash Fire Bug/Steel is about the best you can get typing-wise.

[MCerberus]

Flash Fire Bug/Steel is about the best you can get typing-wise.

Isn't Orre the south-western US?
Orrean Durant sounds like bad news