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2020-09-11, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
So, what's Xykon's equivalent to the 'cat retrieving hand' spell? He seems to be using it here.
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2020-09-11, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-11, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Most undead don't actually retain their memories from life. Speak With Dead, on the other hand...
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2020-09-11, 04:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
You go Oona!
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2020-09-11, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
ohhh dear.
Shouldn't that be "what the Hel", though?
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2020-09-11, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-11, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Hmm, but would Durkon want to do that? Now I think about it more -- that might endanger Redcloak, whom Durkon wants to keep alive. It's a tricky situation to be sure, but maybe Durkon could inject enough doubt to distract them without getting Redcloak iced for treason against Xykon. Looking forward to seeing what happens next!
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2020-09-11, 04:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
I have a hunch: the whole Order of the Stick is going to rescue at least one of the dwarves and then they will escape from Xykon by going into one of the already marked dungeons.
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2020-09-11, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
It's probably the spell Telekinesis.
Considering Durkon doesn't know how at odds Redcloak and Xykon are at, it might not occur to him to exploit it. And it wouldn't help the dwarves much, either - Xykon can ice them in one round and then go on to deal with Redcloak if need be.
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At least in 1204, there was two mild assurances: a) Redcloak wouldn't attack a random dwarf on sight, and b) the Order could pull him out if needed, since Redcloak is lower level than Xykon. There's none of that here.
Honestly, besides the voices' intervention, I'm really not sure how Durkon and Minrah can make it out.
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2020-09-11, 05:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Uh oh. S**t just got real.
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2020-09-11, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Class example of "It Got Worse."
I'm thinking we had evidence somewhere that the monsters come back.
Otherwise, MITD's method of sabotage doesn't do nearly as much, since they could just peek in the doors to see whether they had monsters or not to determine whether they had already been inside.
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2020-09-11, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 05:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
What do you suppose the odds are of Durkon accidentally exposing one of the puppet strings Xykon unknowingly dances on here?
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2020-09-11, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Thing about the Giant is that he so often surprises. I mean, this could either be another many-strip hostage rescue, an execution (or two, which could also be a celestial hostage situation if the team had any clerics left), or an amazing escape.
My hope is for an amazing escape, but a) it's too early in the book to resolve this sub-plot b) you could run straight into a confrontation between the whole team and Xykon's team c) there are other threads dangling that could be brought to bear.
Whence the paladin? Kinda thinking we may switch to that sub-plot pretty soon.
Frankly, I'm glad that Xykon finally showed up. You knew he would. The tension was killing me.
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2020-09-11, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
This is rapidly feeling like the frost giant fight from the last book, where things went from bad to worse to ridiculously overwhelmingly worse in a hurry and just kept going.
If the rest of the Order aren't showing up to shank Xykon in the back right freakin' now, there really is no escape for Durkon and Minrah other than Word of Recall, Plane Shift, or deus-ex-machina.
Put me down as agreeing that the Order aren't going to beat Team Evil this early. Something will happen to break up or interrupt the fight. Probably, I would think, something like the IFCC landing on the scene with their oh-so-vaguely-promised "artifact" and "vessel".I prepared Explosive Runes before writing this signature.
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2020-09-11, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Interesting. Though I think that would give some time, because they can't do that until nightfall.
Anyway, what I think will happen is simpler. Durkon doesn't need any miraculous rescue, because Redcloak wants to capture him alive. So Durkon will be captured, which is good for us because he'll be right where he wants to be, talking to Redcloak. Minrah might die, or she might survive for a bit longer.
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2020-09-11, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-11, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
When Oona said "Okie dokie, Oona is doing the thing!", it brought to mind Uma Thurman's hilariously bad Swedish accent in The Producers, and I will forevermore hear Uma as Oona.
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2020-09-11, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Yay, ATLA
Asides from the reference, I have three theories:
They get rescued because the rest of the OOTS show up, or the mysterious voice (who is totally not Serini) or the MITD or the paladins or something along these lines show up
They convince Redcloak and they fight off Xykon with Redcloak (unlikely)
They get captured and/or killed.
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2020-09-11, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Don't know about anyone else but I'm wondering if game theory will win the day here;
Durkon could raise his hands and say 'take us prisoner and ill tell you what I know and why we're here!'
This would at least delay Xykon for a few seconds, and could possibly start an argument between Redcloak (who doesn't want Xykon to know what the dwarves are doing there) and Xykon.
Yeh I know I'm grasping at straws but there's got to be *something* that stops this escalating this early in the arc.
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2020-09-11, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Wow. I'm trying to figure if this could be any worse if Durkon HADN'T planned for it.
So far, the only difference I can see is that Minrah would still be alive to help the party. :-(
That seems plausible enough. It's about the only thing that could get our dwarves out of this that doesn't involve repeating the "dead PC" or "MitD tricks" plotlines.
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2020-09-11, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
First post here, may as well get my stupid ideas out while I lack a reputation.
Maybe it'sSpoilerMitD shapeshifted into Xykon.
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2020-09-11, 07:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
****. I apologize for violating the profanity rules, but that feels like the only reasonable response to this situation.
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2020-09-11, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
{scrubbed} because it only works if MITD has mastered all his monstery powers as well as impersonation of someone completely unlike him, which is a crazy huge leap to make.
Reminds me of:
Maybe it's just another illusion?
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ETA: Those faces don't really work, do they?Last edited by Peelee; 2020-09-11 at 08:54 PM.
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2020-09-11, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-11, 07:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1214 - The Discussion Thread
Jacky, I think we could have been a little warmer in greeting our new particpant.
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Not seeing MiTD beginning to talk like Xykon, nor reveal himself without permission. He's had opportunities galore and has never yet broken lurk.
Also, I just noticed that in the last panel, Minrah has one eye closed and one eye open. It gives her an almost quizzical look. I like that kind of attention to detail.Last edited by Peelee; 2020-09-11 at 08:56 PM.
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