Support the GITP forums on Patreon
Help support GITP's forums (and ongoing server maintenance) via Patreon
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 86
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Barbarian in the Playground
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    North

    Default Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    https://dndcelebration2020.com/#/previews


    Barb is looking great, glad they got rid of limited the "spell slot battery" thing
    In general I love that you can use some of the wild magic roll multiple times per rage, sort of a "let's embrace the weird" energy.
    And you have a chance of becoming the best throwing weapon character without needing dual wielder feat

    I don't see anything explicitly different about the genie warlock, but I might be missing some small changes


    edit: the Marid expanded spell list contains "control warmer" can't wait for that
    Last edited by micahaphone; 2020-09-15 at 03:43 PM.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Orc in the Playground
    Join Date
    May 2016

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Gotta say, I'm glad the Genielock came through unscathed. And the Barbarian looks to be quite playable. I'd play either of them quite happily. Heck, I might even do a M/C between the two of them for the fun of it.

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    RogueGuy

    Join Date
    Nov 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Is this the first comeback of the mythical d3 in 5e?

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Edea's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    In your head.
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    >one of the available foci is a ring
    >elementals

    I am...getting a Captain Planet vibe from this pact, so far...also LOL control warmer.
    "Come play in the darkness with me."
    Thanks for the avatar, banjo1985!

    Spoiler
    Show

    I guess I'm a Neutral Good Human Wizard (4th Level)
    Ability Scores:
    Strength- 14
    Dexterity- 15
    Constitution- 17
    Intelligence- 20
    Wisdom- 20
    Charisma- 12
    Take the 'What D&D Character am I?" Quiz!


    Somehow I doubt the veracity of this quiz :P
    Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by micahaphone View Post
    https://dndcelebration2020.com/#/previews


    Barb is looking great, glad they got rid of limited the "spell slot battery" thing
    In general I love that you can use some of the wild magic roll multiple times per rage, sort of a "let's embrace the weird" energy.
    And you have a chance of becoming the best throwing weapon character without needing dual wielder feat

    I don't see anything explicitly different about the genie warlock, but I might be missing some small changes


    edit: the Marid expanded spell list contains "control warmer" can't wait for that
    What is this website?

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Barbarian in the Playground
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    North

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Adventurer View Post
    What is this website?

    Next dnd conference, all virtual. Play some online AL or watch panels

    https://dnd.wizards.com/dndcelebration

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    PirateGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Really don't like that they are doubling down on using proficiency bonus as a form of scaling. Really buffs multiclassing. Just glad that, between these two, the its nothing too good at low level. But still...

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Bugbear in the Playground
    Join Date
    Nov 2015

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    They kept wish on the list...

    I’ll likely never play or DM at those levels, but... I have to think that’s open up a whole lot of options...

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Edea's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    In your head.
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritchaser View Post
    They kept wish on the list...

    I’ll likely never play or DM at those levels, but... I have to think that’s open up a whole lot of options...
    Eh, it uses an Arcanum, not a Pact Magic slot, so its a 6/half-dozen scenario, really. "Well, bards, sorcerers and wizards can do this already, might as well add warlocks to that list."

    In fact, it might help ever-so-slightly with actually getting people to stay in warlock, rather than multi-out the instant they get invocations and the 2nd Pact Magic slot.
    Last edited by Edea; 2020-09-15 at 07:50 PM.
    "Come play in the darkness with me."
    Thanks for the avatar, banjo1985!

    Spoiler
    Show

    I guess I'm a Neutral Good Human Wizard (4th Level)
    Ability Scores:
    Strength- 14
    Dexterity- 15
    Constitution- 17
    Intelligence- 20
    Wisdom- 20
    Charisma- 12
    Take the 'What D&D Character am I?" Quiz!


    Somehow I doubt the veracity of this quiz :P
    Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Pex's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Hooray for Genie Warlock! I want to play one so bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by OgresAreCute View Post
    "Welcome to Dungeons and Dragons fifth edition, where the DCs are made up and the rules don't matter."

  11. - Top - End - #11
    Troll in the Playground
     
    MindFlayer

    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    I thought the barbarian looked a bit rubbish until I realised it didn't use the Sorcerer wild magic table but had its own, better table.

    Not likely to play either of these, but I can see the way these classes are going and it looks promising.

  12. - Top - End - #12
    Orc in the Playground
     
    Daemon

    Join Date
    Oct 2017

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritchaser View Post
    They kept wish on the list...

    I’ll likely never play or DM at those levels, but... I have to think that’s open up a whole lot of options...
    Focus firing your Eldritch blasts with your Wished Simulacrum. A Warlock that can prep Clones for the whole party...

    In conjunction with Limited Wish it makes a Warlock more or less a suitable alternative to a wizard.

    I love it.

    Over the next 4 seasons of AL, I will likely play 4 different Genielocks for a full set.
    Last edited by BerzerkerUnit; 2020-09-15 at 08:10 PM.

  13. - Top - End - #13
    Dwarf in the Playground
    Join Date
    Apr 2020

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    The barbarian is very meh. It’s ok in tier1/2 but falls off insanely hard. This was already a problem for the class, but here it’s strictly weaker than the other subclasses bc of the bad scaling in that wild table.

    The strongest feature is the spell slot battery, which is ok support, but still doesn’t overcome the overall weakness.

    Genie is unchanged and fantastic.
    Last edited by Hael; 2020-09-15 at 08:22 PM.

  14. - Top - End - #14
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Luccan's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    The Old West
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by MrStabby View Post
    I thought the barbarian looked a bit rubbish until I realised it didn't use the Sorcerer wild magic table but had its own, better table.

    Not likely to play either of these, but I can see the way these classes are going and it looks promising.
    Wow. WotC really hates Sorcerers*. That "wild" magic table is just good across the board. I don't even think it's that appealing a subclass, the table is just so much nicer to the PC than the WM Sorc.
    *I'm aware most people despise Wild Magic Sorcerer due to the negative effects on it's list, so it makes sense to change the mechanic, but it still really sucks to see its schtick co-opted by another class and remove the entire downside. Everything Sorcerers get WotC wants to give to someone else. But better.
    Last edited by Luccan; 2020-09-15 at 08:58 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nifft View Post
    All Roads Lead to Gnome.

    I for one support the Gnoman Empire.
    Avatar by linklele

    Spoiler: Build Contests
    Show

    E6 Iron Chef XVI Shared First Place: Black Wing

    E6 Iron Chef XXI Shared Second Place: The Shadow's Hand


  15. - Top - End - #15
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    zinycor's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Really glad the genie warlock is largely unchanged
    Last son of the Lu-Ching dynasty

    thog is the champion, thog's friends! and thog keeps on fighting to the end!

  16. - Top - End - #16
    Orc in the Playground
     
    RogueGuy

    Join Date
    Nov 2010

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Pex View Post
    Hooray for Genie Warlock! I want to play one so bad.
    It seems nice; I might finally play a warlock.

  17. - Top - End - #17
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by micahaphone View Post
    Next dnd conference, all virtual. Play some online AL or watch panels

    https://dnd.wizards.com/dndcelebration
    Cool, thanks

  18. - Top - End - #18
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    Kane0's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Waterdeep
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Wasnt the genie lock really heavy on the prof bonus progression and gave a random damage bonus that it didnt really need?

  19. - Top - End - #19
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Eldan's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Switzerland
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Edea View Post
    >one of the available foci is a ring
    >elementals

    I am...getting a Captain Planet vibe from this pact, so far...also LOL control warmer.
    The ring may just be a reference to Aladdin, who had a magic ring with a genie bound to it.
    "Après la vie - le mort, après le mort, la vie de noveau.
    Après le monde - le gris; après le gris - le monde de nouveau.
    "

  20. - Top - End - #20
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jan 2013

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    One of the legendary magic items that is available in the DMG is a Ring of Genie Summoning, in fact.

  21. - Top - End - #21
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    BarbarianGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Ok but what's with this d3 thing?
    Sysdexlic Santa

  22. - Top - End - #22
    Titan in the Playground
     
    DrowGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2008

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by EggKookoo View Post
    Ok but what's with this d3 thing?
    I assume its "wild magic is wierd, so lets use a largely non-existant dice type", since I can't imagine a d4 would have unbalanced anything. Either that or they're paranoid of lol random archetypes being the best and potentially dominating play so they making extra sure they're below average.
    "It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
    You'll never get out of life alive,
    So please kill yourself and save this land,
    And your last mission is to spread my command,"

    Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself

  23. - Top - End - #23
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    Griffon

    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Genie Warlock seems both very powerful and fun. Maybe a bit too powerful? Was the case with the hexblade of course, but in general, I think the post-phb subclasses of the warlock are quite a bit stronger than the phb ones (ignoring SCAG here though - so mabye more accurate to say that the later warlock subclasses are better than the earlier). This is imo more the case for Warlock than for other classes (with the possible exception of Ranger, whose Xanathar subclasses were also a bit stronger than the phb ones).

  24. - Top - End - #24
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Beholder

    Join Date
    Jun 2016

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    First reaction is “Wow, a barbarian that spends its days learning weapons and using its physical strength but happens to be infused with ‘Wild Magic’ has waaaaayyyy more control over it than a Sorcerer who spends their entire life trying to control such magic.”

    I mean, I guess it’s an acknowledgement from WotC that they shouldn’t have made a subclass whose effectiveness is completely up to the DM (WM Sorc in case that’s not obvious) in the first place, but this just really says “Barbs are better at controlling Wild Magic than Sorcerers.” Particularly since nothing bad or even ineffective can come from the Barb’s surges like it can with a Sorc.

    Oh well, not like there was too much reason to play a Sorc over a Wizard if you cared about effectiveness anyway.

  25. - Top - End - #25
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Chimera

    Join Date
    Dec 2015

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsp29a View Post
    First reaction is “Wow, a barbarian that spends its days learning weapons and using its physical strength but happens to be infused with ‘Wild Magic’ has waaaaayyyy more control over it than a Sorcerer who spends their entire life trying to control such magic.”

    I mean, I guess it’s an acknowledgement from WotC that they shouldn’t have made a subclass whose effectiveness is completely up to the DM (WM Sorc in case that’s not obvious) in the first place, but this just really says “Barbs are better at controlling Wild Magic than Sorcerers.” Particularly since nothing bad or even ineffective can come from the Barb’s surges like it can with a Sorc.

    Oh well, not like there was too much reason to play a Sorc over a Wizard if you cared about effectiveness anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luccan View Post
    Wow. WotC really hates Sorcerers*. That "wild" magic table is just good across the board. I don't even think it's that appealing a subclass, the table is just so much nicer to the PC than the WM Sorc.
    *I'm aware most people despise Wild Magic Sorcerer due to the negative effects on it's list, so it makes sense to change the mechanic, but it still really sucks to see its schtick co-opted by another class and remove the entire downside. Everything Sorcerers get WotC wants to give to someone else. But better.
    On the other hand, should WotC really never improve on something everyone has pretty much acknowledged is garbage?

  26. - Top - End - #26
    Titan in the Playground
     
    DrowGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2008

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    On the other hand, should WotC really never improve on something everyone has pretty much acknowledged is garbage?
    Yes, but they haven't improved the wildmagic sorceror. Unless this barbarian archetype is partially a test and they will later release a new version of it like they did with the ranger.
    "It doesn't matter how much you struggle or strive,
    You'll never get out of life alive,
    So please kill yourself and save this land,
    And your last mission is to spread my command,"

    Slightly adapted quote from X-Fusion, Please Kill Yourself

  27. - Top - End - #27
    Troll in the Playground
     
    PaladinGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    The Genie Warlock with a build in Spike Growth and pushing and pulling with Eldritch Blast seems like it would be absolutely amazing on combat on it's own.

  28. - Top - End - #28
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    KorvinStarmast's Avatar

    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Texas
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by GorogIrongut View Post
    Gotta say, I'm glad the Genielock came through unscathed.
    Looking forward to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jas61292 View Post
    Really don't like that they are doubling down on using proficiency bonus as a form of scaling.
    I like this. Tastes differ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritchaser View Post
    They kept wish on the list.
    We all have a wish list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edea View Post
    "Well, bards, sorcerers and wizards can do this already, might as well add warlocks to that list."
    Yep. Agree on it helping to keep Warlocks in Warlock.
    Quote Originally Posted by BerzerkerUnit View Post
    Focus firing your Eldritch blasts with your Wished Simulacrum.
    What's not to love?
    Avatar by linklele
    Quote Originally Posted by Malifice View Post
    (paraphrased) Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by greenstone View Post
    Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
    Gosh, 2D8HP, you are so very correct
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyDaze
    Self-deception tends to have a low target number
    How Teleport Works

  29. - Top - End - #29
    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Apr 2017

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    i ordered a big tasty bowl of genie dip and wotc delivered

    hard to beat for scaling damage and a nifty ring

  30. - Top - End - #30
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Edea's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    In your head.
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Tasha Preview, Wild Magic Barbarian and Genie Warlock

    It feels bad to see sorcerer get crapped all over...again...

    What is it with WotC and the sorcerer class? Skippy's not there anymore, this should've stopped happening...

    Hope this Aberrant Mind/Psionic Soul/whatever's good...
    "Come play in the darkness with me."
    Thanks for the avatar, banjo1985!

    Spoiler
    Show

    I guess I'm a Neutral Good Human Wizard (4th Level)
    Ability Scores:
    Strength- 14
    Dexterity- 15
    Constitution- 17
    Intelligence- 20
    Wisdom- 20
    Charisma- 12
    Take the 'What D&D Character am I?" Quiz!


    Somehow I doubt the veracity of this quiz :P
    Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •