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2020-09-21, 12:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
I particularly liked panel #10's lighting effects. Go Go Giant art!
Nice call back. That hammer is one that Thor passed down to his clergy. Thor and Hel do not get along. Guessing it may have a little "anti undead juice" to it. But that's a guess.
Yep.
Neat.
Many things to love about this strip:
Panel 3, Durkon gives Xykon a hammer facial. Noice.
Panel 4; clever Durkon hammer catch followed by two cleric's doing a leap of faith (in falling damage rules) off of the cliff.
Panel 10: beautiful Lighting effects.
Panel 12: Nice punch line, particularly vis a vis the comic's title. (Present company included)
All in all very nice.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-21 at 12:05 PM.
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2020-09-21, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-21, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
If you're referring to when Durkon* cast Harm on Roy, Roy didn't have chance to use the Spellsplinter Manoeuvre. It was an attack of opportunity that Durkon made his Concentration check against. Spellsplinter probably won't work like Mage Slayer, for narrative and mechanical reasons.
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2020-09-21, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-21, 12:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2020-09-21, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Well, there is the matter that potentially every member of Team Evil will betray Xykon.
Really, anything that is a straight and fair fight would be rather boring in a webcomic.
Also, they had a lot of specific knowledge of Xykon's abilities and specific preparation.
Well he obviously doesn't know many dwarfs then.I'm pretty sure its any blunt object OR some magical weapons like adamantine or star-metal which ignore damage resistance.
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2020-09-21, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Huh, maybe they get away after all via being too annoying and tedious for Xykon to want to deal with.
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2020-09-21, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-21, 12:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
An nonmagical adamantine sword ignores object hardness (of 20 or less). It does not ignore DR/magic, much less DR/magic and bludgeoning. It only gets through DR/adamantine - which is mostly a Construct thing. A magic adamantine sword still doesn't ignore DR/bludgeoning.
Same applies to other exotic metals.
There are some weapons that ignore all DR of all kinds - but they're almost always artifacts or epic items. Notable examples - Angelwing Razor (Book of Vile Darkness, artifact) and Mace of Ruin (Epic Handbook, epic item).
There's also some special Tome of Battle: Book of Nine Swords manuevers that, while being done, ignore damage reduction of any kind (the Mountain Hammer series of manuevers).Last edited by hamishspence; 2020-09-21 at 12:33 PM.
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2020-09-21, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-21, 12:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-21, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-09-21, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2020-09-21, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
"Thar's no shadows! It's a friggin' stick figure comic ye moron!"
Simpler times. {sigh}
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2020-09-21, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Clearly Xykon should be using Sonic damage. We know no one is ever protected against sonic damage.
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2020-09-21, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Wow, totally didn't expect that! Looks like they prepared really well against Xykon!
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2020-09-21, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Not the first time a body has fallen faster than a much denser weapon. It's OK though, because D&D mostly works on Grubbian physics.
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2020-09-21, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Just reread the comic. I just wanted to say how friggin' cool the art in the first few panels are -- Durkon's expression and just chucking hammer into an epic-level sorcerer's nosehole, and his absolutely slick manuever in catching that hammer. It feels straight out of an action movie.
I also love the casual villainy of tossing out spells just to test if the targets are protected against them or not.
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Since I have been continuously wrong in my speculations, I'll throw in another one: the Order won't show up next strip, since it makes almost zero difference if they did.
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2020-09-21, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Was Xykon making a jab at Red Cloak?
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2020-09-21, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
What I want to know is, where are the flumphs?
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2020-09-21, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
I'd say that there was a goal of causing damage, as well as just doing the test.
So thinking about the momentum transfer effects of returning weapons... when you're falling, you hurl your weapon downwards as hard as you can, thereby decreasing your falling speed by conservation of momentum. The weapon hits ground, or a target, or whatever, and returns to you. You catch it, transferring its upwards momentum to yourself, decreasing your falling speed.
It's one of the fighters' feather falls.
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2020-09-21, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Strangely satisfying to see an Order member doing some direct damage to Xykon.
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2020-09-21, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-21, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Either still in therapy, or hanging out in Firmament.
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2020-09-21, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-21, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-21, 03:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
Standard Lich DR is Blunt + Magic. There are not any special materials that have a property of just straight up ignoring DR that I know of, but Roy's sword has been stated to be 'especially harmful to undead' (paraphrased.) It is not explicitly known just what that means, however, whether that means Xykon's DR is less effective, can be bypassed entirely, or if it just means the energy flares do 2d10 bonus damage against undead instead of 2d6 against most targets. Storywise tho we are meant to accept that Roy's sword is a valid threat to Xykon, so it's probably not worth quibbling about the specifics too much.
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2020-09-21, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
See also: the LotR movies. In FotR, Gandalf cinemacktionally* loses his sword Glamdring early on in his fight with the Balrog, on the bridge over the chasm. In the follow-up scene in TTT, both still falling, he has caught up with it. "You shall not pass grade 9 physics!"
* portmanteau of: cinematic, Jackson, actionLast edited by bunsen_h; 2020-09-21 at 03:44 PM.
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2020-09-21, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1215 - The Discussion Thread
So at this point I'm getting more and more sure that a Wind Walk escape is about to happen.
Since they started actively running, it looks like at least 3 rounds - Oona throwing the bag, Xykon appearing and then casting Energy Drain, Xykon casting Maximized Fireball).
If I recall correctly there was a lot of discussion about how to Wind Walk out required 5 rounds, and they're almost there.
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