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    in fact, inspired by this latest update i am going to suggest my first idea for the next thread... "DON'T CARE!"
    I think "Tch. Whatever. Don't Care." works better.
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    There are a lot of good candidates up there, but I think I'll vote for: "Does the jungle have a wine list? It does not".

    I think this captain is supposed to be Han Solo, appropriately scruffy.

    Who knew that Madwa had a soft spot for extreme apathy?

    Also- if you kill him after he flies you to the middle of nowhere, how do you ever leave the middle of nowhere? I don't think there are scheduled flights. If anyone does find you, it's probably because they are looking for you with intent to kill or capture you, so it's sorta lose-lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Who knew that Madwa had a soft spot for extreme apathy?
    Maybe she just finally found a minion, who could be reusable?
    In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    There are a lot of good candidates up there, but I think I'll vote for: "Does the jungle have a wine list? It does not".

    I think this captain is supposed to be Han Solo, appropriately scruffy.

    Who knew that Madwa had a soft spot for extreme apathy?

    Also- if you kill him after he flies you to the middle of nowhere, how do you ever leave the middle of nowhere? I don't think there are scheduled flights. If anyone does find you, it's probably because they are looking for you with intent to kill or capture you, so it's sorta lose-lose.
    On the other hand, if you are madwa and have a time stopping lantern, you kinda stop considering people coming to kill you as an issue and start thinking of it as new resources for me to claim. She is a master smoke knight after all, and even WITHOUT the lantern would be super hard to stop.
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    Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I think this captain is supposed to be Han Solo, appropriately scruffy.
    He was a dashing young smuggler; she was a beautiful spy.
    She kept getting into impossible scrapes; he kept getting her out of them.
    He had a girl in every port but when he saw those big beautiful eyes, the wall around his heart crumbled.
    They made passionate love beneath the stars and above the clouds.
    Then, she met with a stuffy Englishman.
    The next morning she was gone, along with his secret charts. His heart turned to ash.
    So he crawled into a bottle, until he just didn’t care anymore, took more and more dangerous jobs, hoping for suicide by adventure.
    “A long surcote of pers upon he hade, / And by his syde he baar a rusty blade.” - Chaucer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    On the other hand, if you are madwa and have a time stopping lantern, you kinda stop considering people coming to kill you as an issue and start thinking of it as new resources for me to claim. She is a master smoke knight after all, and even WITHOUT the lantern would be super hard to stop.
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    If what's coming after you is Agatha by herself, maybe that's resources.
    If it's Agatha, Gil, Tarvek, Martellus, Zeetha, Violetta, Bang, and Higgs plus da Boyz - not even Madwa is that good. Not if they know you're there. It is at best a high-risk gamble.
    If it's Albia deciding it's time to end this threat to the safety of her realm and bringing not merely her nigh-immortal nearly-godlike self, but the full resources of England - why yes, you may be nuked from orbit, or the GGverse equivalent of lots of airships dropping hundreds or thousands of small hunter-seeker clanks specially designed by Albia herself to find YOU, with very complete knowledge of what you are capable of doing (how many smoke knights do you think Albia's killed in the last 200 years or so?) and of what Prende's Lantern can do. Hunting you in packs, with a variety of sensors (visual, infrared, sonic, radar, ...), a variety of lethal ordnance (ballistic, explosive, poisons, rays) and a reasonable grasp of tactics. One person trapped on an island against the full resources of a nation-state is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post
    Maybe she just finally found a minion, who could be reusable?
    Indeed. I think it is quite hard to find a ferry captain with this little interest in who or what he transports. And he is smart enough that he knows he can be killed as part of the standard operating procedure, and doesn't even care! That is some bonus points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locksmith of lo View Post
    in fact, inspired by this latest update i am going to suggest my first idea for the next thread... "DON'T CARE!"
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    I think "Tch. Whatever. Don't Care." works better.
    Both variants noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    There are a lot of good candidates up there, but I think I'll vote for: "Does the jungle have a wine list? It does not".
    Can I remind people that they are allowed to vote for any number of choices (although voting for all of them would be silly), and that they are automatically assumed to have voted for their own suggestions.

    Yes, apparantly I can.

    ...

    Given the levels of apathy, I'm amazed that he even got them there...


    EDIT: Wild, completely out there, bonkers theory: It's Bill (or even Barry). The reason he doesn't care is he can take both of them in his sleep. (And possibly mourning for Lucrezia). I literally have no idea why I came up with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    New comic

    That captain has a very healthy attitude towards his job.
    Healthy? No. Realistic? Very!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    ...
    Also- if you kill him after he flies you to the middle of nowhere, how do you ever leave the middle of nowhere? I don't think there are scheduled flights. If anyone does find you, it's probably because they are looking for you with intent to kill or capture you, so it's sorta lose-lose.
    I suspect their goal is a functioning Mirror which will take them to Lucrezia/The Other's main lair. They aren't expecting to have to use conventional means to leave the island. I'm not sure taking the Lamp through a Mirror is a good idea, particularly not if it's damaged, but some incarnation of Lucrezia is no doubt waiting for it in order to complete the device Agatha eventually uses to open time windows.

    This can also lead to an interesting way of "fixing" Mechanicsburg, or at least studying it. If they find some information on how the Mirrors work on this island and gain the Lamp and access to a Mirror which can connect them to the Mirror in Mechanicsburgs Red Cathedral...

    EDIT: My suggestions for the next thread topic:

    Something is definitely going on!

    Well, now I kind of want to keep him.
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    My vote:

    Mysteriously broken, set loose, or activated

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    My vote is going for "Still in Four Pitiful Dimensions"

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    My votes:

    1- We can rebuild with Science

    2- We're not savages, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazu Yen View Post
    Healthy? No. Realistic? Very!
    It saved his neck right now, didn't it?
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    If it is dead it can be eaten."

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    All duly noted. (@Zazu Yen - note that the boldface is being removed as it won't appear in the title).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    if you kill him after he flies you to the middle of nowhere, how do you ever leave the middle of nowhere? I don't think there are scheduled flights. If anyone does find you, it's probably because they are looking for you with intent to kill or capture you, so it's sorta lose-lose.
    Presumably what she intends to find there provides her with a method of leaving the island on her own.

    And given the Lady's involvement, and the fact that Zeetha can read the words (kinda), leads me to believe it's probably a backdoor into Skifander.

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    It saved his neck right now, didn't it?
    Makes me wonder how many times he's done this, and follows the exact same script just to stay alive, since he deals with so many of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    It saved his neck right now, didn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    Makes me wonder how many times he's done this, and follows the exact same script just to stay alive, since he deals with so many of them.
    True, it would make sense for this to be a learned survival skill for dealing with a clientele that needs to avoid patrols on a regular basis.

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    All duly noted. (@Zazu Yen - note that the boldface is being removed as it won't appear in the title).
    Got it, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazu Yen View Post
    True, it would make sense for this to be a learned survival skill for dealing with a clientele that needs to avoid patrols on a regular basis.
    Not just evade patrols. So that nobody knows where they went, nobody could be used to trace where they went, nobody even knows they left, or were even there in the first place.

    So anyone who's not part of The Job is disposable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Wild, completely out there, bonkers theory: It's Bill (or even Barry). The reason he doesn't care is he can take both of them in his sleep. (And possibly mourning for Lucrezia). I literally have no idea why I came up with that.
    I would love for this to be true, but Bill was too much of a HERO to ever let people like Madwa continue existence, and Barry was much, much bigger the last time we saw him. Of the two, I am fairly certain that Bill was more heroic and Barry was both smarter and more pragmatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    I would love for this to be true, but Bill was too much of a HERO to ever let people like Madwa continue existence, and Barry was much, much bigger the last time we saw him. Of the two, I am fairly certain that Bill was more heroic and Barry was both smarter and more pragmatic.
    I think that one of the things that went through my mind was that our Captian was a large man, although not as large as Barry in the flashback; however I have always seen that flashback as an exaggerated memory because Agatha was a child, so adults seemed much bigger. As she didn't grow up with Uncle Barry (he disappeared while she was still little) she never got the adult perspective, so to speak.

    However yes, on the moral side the characters of both Bill and Barry are too different - even the grim, depressed and focussed Bill we see in the novels after the fall of Mechanicsberg (where he lost his son, and apparantly his wife).
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    Now I'm really curious about if Tarvek is number 1 or number 2, and who the third possible heir could be. A new suitor? A new adversary? Both? Both is good...
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    Very true Krosp. I wonder how far Martellus would have gone if he kept his mouth shut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonberrian View Post
    Now I'm really curious about if Tarvek is number 1 or number 2, and who the third possible heir could be. A new suitor? A new adversary? Both? Both is good...
    It was mentioned at some point that Gilgamesh also has some claim to the Strom King title. Not sure how real it is.
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    The muse just speaks of a claimant, not an heir. Its entirely possible there is something else going on here. While he never took on the title of king, baron wulfenbach ruled over the majority of europa with an iron fist for decades, AND he had a son and heir to take the "throne" who officially did so. Gil is the defacto ruler of europa despite there being a civil war going on. Think of it this way, if queen elizabeth and her entire known line stopped being queen of england, and 15 generations later someone else took over and ruled then put their child on the throne to replace them, which family line is the TRUE royal line? What happens if one of elizabeths many times great grand nephews shows up and declares he is rightfully the king? Who has the legit claim to the throne? The current king? Or the distant relative of the royal line that hasnt ruled in centuries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Who has the legit claim to the throne? The current king? Or the distant relative of the royal line that hasnt ruled in centuries?
    By the time-honored tradition it will be the one, who can enforce his rule with whatever means they deem fit. Getting rid of the other candidate was a particularly popular choice.
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    "I keep thinking he isn't all bad - and then he opens his mouth". Oh, I feel this. Ever want to like someone - a movie star, perhaps, where you like the roles they play - and then they go and talk without a script, and it's ... ewwwww?

    Anyway ...

    At best a distant third means that someone else has a very strong claim. I wonder if it's Tarvek?

    And there's a distinction between heir to a title, and heir to power. There are still people who squabble over who is the proper heir to the Romanov throne in Russia. I believe a key part of the argument is whether or not someone disqualified himself and his entire line in the early 20th century by marrying a commoner. My point being that if one of the competitors somehow gained recognition as Czar, their ability to give orders to Vladimir Putin would remain exactly what it is now ... zero.

    If Tarvek were recognized as Storm King, he'd still have very little power. If Martellus' weaker claim were recognized, he'd still have more power, because he's got a military to back him up. Tarvek would probably be a more effective ruler if he had something to rule, but he doesn't.
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    Yeah trying to figure out the storm king line of succeesion is a bit difficult since the exact family tree is pretty vague and we don't know the rules. For instance, Terebitha (grandma) who basically runs the family is suggested to be the mother of tarvek's father because of her titles, but Tarvek specifically said he gets his storm king claim from his mother's side of the family (unless the foglio's decided to retcon that detail). Not to mention that red hair seems to be the common factor for everyone related to the storm king and Tarvek's father had red hair

    So lets speculate. For rules, Lets assume that the lines of succession is favors men, older siblings, and the status of the parents. Sparkiness is actually NOT a factor for succession because its too unpredictable; Its best for the family to know where someone sits in the line of succession at birth and there's no way to determine sparkiness at birth and breakthrough's may not happen until young adulthood. Sparkiness is highly desirable and respected, but not strictly necessary... though when it comes to returning the storm king to the throne, the family would prefer someone capable instead of an idiot

    i expect that Tarvek is actually first in line. One of his parents, whether it be his father or mother, is the oldest child and the other parent is either of high nobility or royal birth. I'm gonna assume there was a retcon; Terebitha is the grandmother of storm kings, she's the mother of Wilhelm and Tarvek actually gets his claim from his father instead of mother. Wilhelm being Terebitha's oldest son is first in line and his wife was from another royal family, thus making Tarvek first in line after him (and he's now dead). In fact, i feel its certain that Tarvek is first in line because Orotine greets him with respect and refers to him as "your majesty" , while she is more disrepecful to Martellus and refers to him with the lesser term "your highness".

    lets look at Violetta real quick... she's a cousin of Tarvek but she does not seem to have any status. My assumption is that her mother was one of Terebitha's younger daughters and Violetta was born out of wedlock. Being an illegitmate child invalidates any claim she might have by blood and so Violetta becomes a servant of the family.

    Martellus being third, means that someone must be second. My guess is that Orotine is also considering other family lines. Terebitha's family isn't the only family that can draw a clear line back to the storm king. While Tarvek is the first prince from Terebitha's side of the family, the other main contender is the first prince of another family line of which Orotine believes has a fairly equal claim... this would explain why Terebitha seems to regard Tarvek and Martellus as their best choices even though Martellus is "a distant third"; she's not considering the heirs from rival families

    Now Martellus. Distant third, at best? That suggests his claim even as third in line could be disputed. My guess is that his parent who he gets his claim from is Terebitha's second child who is also a daughter. This could put him in line for the throne behind Tarvek, but one added wrinkle could be that his other parent is not of high birth and may even be a commoner. Since he is a legitimate child he still has his claim, but since his other parent is low status his claim is a lot weaker than Tarvek's (distant third) and even his spot as third for the throne could be disputed by other cousins who have more noble parentage (at best). This is why Martellus obsesses over recognition, but gets annoyed with those that want to focus on the official line of succession.

    So that's my speculation on the whole thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonberrian View Post
    Now I'm really curious about if Tarvek is number 1 or number 2, and who the third possible heir could be. A new suitor? A new adversary? Both? Both is good...
    As I pointed out when Orotine first brought this up last year, Gilgamesh. If nothing else then because it is the most frustrating answer.

    My reasoning hasn't changed and is now is as sound, or unsound as the case might be, as it was then.

    https://forums.giantitp.com/showsing...&postcount=909

    As my post doesn't spell out the full context, at the party Orotine made a point of seeing Tarvek, Martellus, and Gilgamesh. Let's revisit those meetings.

    First was Tarvek, whom she greeted friendly and had a conversation with the details of which were not disclosed to the reader:
    https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/com...?date=20200601

    Then Martellus, whom she quickly puts down by pointing out that support of two popes or an army notwithstanding, while there was dispute (to the Muses, at least) as to which of two lines is ascendant, in neither case is Martellus the rightful heir:
    https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/com...?date=20200710

    And finally she had a conversation with Gilgamesh, which we were privy to, in which she had what appears to give a revealing answer to Gilgamesh when discussing her original purpose, giving advice to the storm king, to which she answers, "and I'd be happy to advise you":
    https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/com...?date=20200729

    Which of course can be read as an inferred "and my preferred claimant would be happy to/not object to have me advise you", seeing as how Tarvek suggested she speak to Gilgamesh:
    https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/com...?date=20200731

    But can also be read as a direct reference to Gilgamesh himself, because, by the most simple reading of her answer, that's exactly what it is. And in my theory it is so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slayerx View Post
    lets look at Violetta real quick... she's a cousin of Tarvek but she does not seem to have any status. My assumption is that her mother was one of Terebitha's younger daughters and Violetta was born out of wedlock. Being an illegitmate child invalidates any claim she might have by blood and so Violetta becomes a servant of the family.
    Not getting into the rest of the speculation right now, but I don't think Violetta's lower status could be from something as recent as the circumstances of her own birth. Her branch of the family has served Tarvek's for generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    Not getting into the rest of the speculation right now, but I don't think Violetta's lower status could be from something as recent as the circumstances of her own birth. Her branch of the family has served Tarvek's for generations.
    I actually forgot that detail, but this a detail that doesn't really seem to make sense since i seem to recall Violetta referring to Terebitha as "grandma". Odd that she would call her grandma if she wasn't actually her grandmother

    Though it is possible that both could be true... Violetta's mother could be the youngest daughter of Terebitha, but (possibly ignoring arranged marriages) married a man from the branch family (which lost their claim to the crown generations ago due to marriage shenanigans). So even though Violletta is a granddaughter of Terebitha like Tarvek, she doesn't get any claim and is instead raised as a full member of her father's family.

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