Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!

[Radar]

Agreed. Vote cast

And my axe!

I mean... I vote for "A giant corkboard of continuity madness!" too.

[Ailurus]

I am a little annoyed at another filler page today, given that we had a side-story, a recap page and then 8 pages (2 of which were filler) along the main story.

That said, though, I'd much rather have a filler page today to resolve any continuity errors then to have everything fall apart. So, bring on the giant corkboard of continuity madness!

[Manga Shoggoth]

Suggestions and votes noted. I'm, even voting for A giant corkboard of continuity madness.

Shall I put the scores up? It's Friday, I've spent the evening helping my daughter make candles, I'm knocking back the cider!! Of course I'm posting the scores!!!

Spoiler: Today's vote brought to you by Angry Orchard...

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Title	Votes	Proposer and Voters
Girl Genius XXIX: I will smack all of you so hard!	1	Ellen
Girl Genius XXIX: What is this worthless thread?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Thread delayed due to SCIENCE!	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Too educational to miss	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Who's naming these things?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: How does inheritance work here anyways?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: It's not just because I'm a Pirate!	1	Manga Shoggoth
Girl Genius XXIX: The Promised Hat Rack	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Shifted Mathematics	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Still Working on the Harmonics	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Teach it some Manners	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Improbably Lucky Klutz	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Yeah! Psychology!	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: Fight delayed on account of science.	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: Vibrationally Stable	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: You will not harsh my thesis!	1	Jimor
Girl Genius XXIX: Friend of Smeerps	1	PraetorDragoon
Girl Genius XXIX: DON'T CARE!	1	locksmith of lo
Girl Genius XXIX: Tch. Whatever. Don't Care.	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Something is definitely going on!	1	Zazu Yen
Girl Genius XXIX: Well, now I kind of want to keep him.	1	Zazu Yen
Girl Genius XXIX: We can rebuild with Science	1	Scarlet Knight
Girl Genius XXIX: We're not savages, you know.	1	Scarlet Knight
Girl Genius XXIX: Does this thread have a wine list? It does not.	2	Manga Shoggoth, Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: Mysteriously Activated, set loose, or broken	2	Rockphed, Vinyadan
Girl Genius XXIX: Severely Over-Parked!	3	Rogar Demonblud, Agi Hammerthief, The Glyphstone
Girl Genius XXIX: Still In Four Pitiful Dimensions	3	The Glyphstone, Shining Wrath, TeChameleon
Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness	6	HandofShadows, Kantaki, Manga Shoggoth, Traab, Zazu Yen, Radar

[runeghost]

Count me in for "a giant corkboard of continuity madness" as well, please.

[TeChameleon]

Yeah, it's tough to argue with A Giant Corkboard of Continuity Madness being the best title.

One more vote for that.

[The Glyphstone]

Let's jump on this runaway bandwagon before it leaves the station, and lock in a Corkboard of Continuity Madness.

[Manga Shoggoth]

Let's jump on this runaway bandwagon before it leaves the station, and lock in a Corkboard of Continuity Madness.

It's going to be a difficult one to beat, for sure. But there's still two pages to go, and anything could happen in the next two pages.

[Rockphed]

Alas, my many (not very) well thought out title suggestions again fall by the wayside. What is a modestly mad scientist to do?

In unrelated thoughts, what do mimmoths eat? Real elephants and mammoths eat leaves and grass (with the occasional fruit), but mimmoths are too small to properly ferment their food. I suppose they could have digestive tracts similar to rabbits and guinea pigs, where they send the food multiple times down their whole digestive tracts.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Seeing as how they were created by Mad SCIENCE!, they could survive on dust motes in the air for all we know.

[Agi Hammerthief]

Let's jump on this runaway bandwagon before it leaves the station, and lock in a Corkboard of Continuity Madness.

get’s a vote from me too.

[geoduck]

Alas, my many (not very) well thought out title suggestions again fall by the wayside. What is a modestly mad scientist to do?

In unrelated thoughts, what do mimmoths eat? Real elephants and mammoths eat leaves and grass (with the occasional fruit), but mimmoths are too small to properly ferment their food. I suppose they could have digestive tracts similar to rabbits and guinea pigs, where they send the food multiple times down their whole digestive tracts.

According one of the novels, a mimmoth will bore through a concrete wall to get at a peanut.

[Rogar Demonblud]

They really are rodents.

[TeChameleon]

Random silly headcanon time: Jagermonsters are followers of Odin. Specifically, the Marvel comics version, for reasons I hope are obvious.

[Fyraltari]

Someone should make a graph of who's pining for whom.

[locksmith of lo]

yes, "a Corkboard of Continuity Madness" is pretty good and that gets my final vote.

[PraetorDragoon]

My votes go for "Still in Four Pitiful Dimensions" and "Corkboard of Madness"

Someone should make a graph of who's pining for whom.

Modelling graphs in 5 dimensions is annoying.

[Shining Wrath]

Ah, feline modesty. "She'd be lost without me".
Now, why doesn't Tarvek want the Muse filled in on the nature of the party?
Also, very superficial. Zeetha is a lot more than a fight instructor and romantic partner to Higgs.
Higgs is lot more than "dangerous".
Et cetera.

[Scarlet Knight]

...
Now, why doesn't Tarvek want the Muse filled in on the nature of the party?

Because she's Clankrezia in a wig?

[Traab]

Ah, feline modesty. "She'd be lost without me".
Now, why doesn't Tarvek want the Muse filled in on the nature of the party?
Also, very superficial. Zeetha is a lot more than a fight instructor and romantic partner to Higgs.
Higgs is lot more than "dangerous".
Et cetera.

Remember, he is a cat. Despite his human level intellect, he still thinks like a cat so his descriptors are going to be skewed. As for tarvek, he is probably annoyed that he is getting called out for intentionally pretending not to recognize the interest he is being shown. He is VERY good at playing ignorant and hiding things. He does not want to get mixed up in any english romance when he is still after agatha and trying to be the storm king. But he cant reject her because obviously thats not a wise thing to do to the daughter of an immortal queen. So he is likely pretending not to notice and hoping she never gets up the nerve to be direct about it.

[Calemyr]

Orotine is a wild card, and not one Tarvek trusts. Given his superior knowledge on muses and their history, I wouldn't dismiss it as simple paranoia.

Now, this could be because Orotine's behavior during or after the fall of the Storm King makes Tarvek question her allegiance. A Muse of Geometry could reasonably be expected to jump ship to a preferable circumstance once her original purpose cannot be furthered, and she can certainly be expected to make this conclusion and pick a new angle far sooner than her sisters would. Ergo, Tarvek could easily expect her to be a traitor and manipulator. It's almost explicitly her stated nature.

Alternatively, Tarvek is outright stated himself to be expecting divide and conquer tactics here in England. He was amused at the dance at just how many women have been directed like arrows at Gil, but none at him - right before Orotine showed up. Tarvek knows himself quite well, he knows the muses are something of a weakness for him. Putting Orotine in front of him right now seems less like kismet and more like conspiracy, so he is triple-guessing everything the muse has to say in order to figure out just what her game is and - with luck - the game of her compatriots/superiors/whatever.

[Rogar Demonblud]

He's also likely aware that this is part of one of Albia's schemes, and dislikes schemes in general given his family history.

Also, it seems Krosp has found a soulmate. Or at least somebody who can pretend to be one while pumping him for information.

Finally, this feels like the opening of a new volume, what with the recaps and all.

[keybounce]

Another vote for Corkboard :-)

[Manga Shoggoth]

Orotine is a wild card, and not one Tarvek trusts. Given his superior knowledge on muses and their history, I wouldn't dismiss it as simple paranoia.

Now, this could be because Orotine's behavior during or after the fall of the Storm King makes Tarvek question her allegiance. A Muse of Geometry could reasonably be expected to jump ship to a preferable circumstance once her original purpose cannot be furthered, and she can certainly be expected to make this conclusion and pick a new angle far sooner than her sisters would. Ergo, Tarvek could easily expect her to be a traitor and manipulator. It's almost explicitly her stated nature.

Alternatively, Tarvek is outright stated himself to be expecting divide and conquer tactics here in England. He was amused at the dance at just how many women have been directed like arrows at Gil, but none at him - right before Orotine showed up. Tarvek knows himself quite well, he knows the muses are something of a weakness for him. Putting Orotine in front of him right now seems less like kismet and more like conspiracy, so he is triple-guessing everything the muse has to say in order to figure out just what her game is and - with luck - the game of her compatriots/superiors/whatever.

I doubt very much that Orotine is a traitor by nature or otherwise - she and her sisters were literally made to serve the Storm King. The worst I can say about her at the moment is that she is being very coy about who the first and second in line for the Storm King are (She has been very clear about Tweedle being third at best). All we really know based onm her remarks on this page is that he or she is in the current party.

I would, however, be wary of what Albia might have done with her betweentimes, or why Albia is deploying her now.

Another vote for Corkboard :-)

Votes to date noted.

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Title	Votes	Proposer and Voters
Girl Genius XXIX: I will smack all of you so hard!	1	Ellen
Girl Genius XXIX: What is this worthless thread?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Thread delayed due to SCIENCE!	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Too educational to miss	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: Who's naming these things?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: How does inheritance work here anyways?	1	keybounce
Girl Genius XXIX: It's not just because I'm a Pirate!	1	Manga Shoggoth
Girl Genius XXIX: Does this thread have a wine list? It does not.	2	Manga Shoggoth, Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: The Promised Hat Rack	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Shifted Mathematics	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Still Working on the Harmonics	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Teach it some Manners	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Mysteriously Activated, set loose, or broken	2	Rockphed, Vinyadan
Girl Genius XXIX: Improbably Lucky Klutz	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Yeah! Psychology!	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: Fight delayed on account of science.	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: Vibrationally Stable	1	Shining Wrath
Girl Genius XXIX: You will not harsh my thesis!	1	Jimor
Girl Genius XXIX: Severely Over-Parked!	3	Rogar Demonblud, Agi Hammerthief, The Glyphstone
Girl Genius XXIX: Still In Four Pitiful Dimensions	4	The Glyphstone, Shining Wrath, TeChameleon, PraetorDragoon
Girl Genius XXIX: Friend of Smeerps	1	PraetorDragoon
Girl Genius XXIX: DON'T CARE!	1	locksmith of lo
Girl Genius XXIX: Tch. Whatever. Don't Care.	1	Rockphed
Girl Genius XXIX: Something is definitely going on!	1	Zazu Yen
Girl Genius XXIX: Well, now I kind of want to keep him.	1	Zazu Yen
Girl Genius XXIX: We can rebuild with Science	1	Scarlet Knight
Girl Genius XXIX: We're not savages, you know.	1	Scarlet Knight
Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness	13	HandofShadows, Kantaki, Manga Shoggoth, Traab, Zazu Yen, Radar, runeghost, TeChameleon, The Glyphstone, Agi Hammerthief, locksmith of lo, PraetorDragoon, keybounce

[Shining Wrath]

Uh ... she does refer to someone as her King. Which is almost certainly Tarvek.

But depending on whether or not the marriage was performed - the descendent of the bride might have a claim. Or maybe even the betrothed of the King.

Agatha may be second in line behind Tarvek, and that may have been part of the scheming of the Knights of Jove. Or maybe they didn't realize it - but Zola did. Marry the "Storm King", do him in, announce that as the Heterodyne you inherit the throne and bring forth the obscure legal doctrine that proves it.

[geoduck]

I would, however, be wary of what Albia might have done with her betweentimes, or why Albia is deploying her now.

One reason is an attempt to distract Tarvek away from Agatha. There may be others.

[Calemyr]

I doubt very much that Orotine is a traitor by nature or otherwise - she and her sisters were literally made to serve the Storm King. The worst I can say about her at the moment is that she is being very coy about who the first and second in line for the Storm King are (She has been very clear about Tweedle being third at best). All we really know based onm her remarks on this page is that he or she is in the current party.

I would, however, be wary of what Albia might have done with her betweentimes, or why Albia is deploying her now.

I'm not talking a traitor to the Storm King, I mean a traitor to anyone else. She sees how things fit together, which is an obscenely powerful trait when you think what that means. Not exactly predicting the future, per se, but being able to spot where things are going long before anyone else, what things could be easily manipulated to change that outcome, etc. This would include spotting dead ends, and knowing when to bail when further effort wouldn't achieve her ends. Such as, for example, when her king has gone off the deep end over a Heterodyne and becomes entirely beyond saving, Orotine would be the one to spot it first, and already be looking for angles on how to preserve the crown. Her actions, in this case, could look outright treasonous from an outside perspective. Now, I have absolutely no doubt that Orotine was, and is, entirely loyal to the Storm King and any successor she finds worthy. However, she's artificial, like the Kestle. Her loyalty isn't human loyalty. And, just like how the Kestle is more than willing to go against Agatha's wishes if it means the survival of the Heterodyne clan, the Muse of Geometry could easily be playing a long game to set the geometry up for an optimal return of the Storm King, one where everybody else are just objects in play. And their benefit only factors in as so far as that benefit might benefit her chosen king.

To put it another way, I think Orotine is to the Muses what Higgs is to the Jaegers. Higgs has never been anything but absolutely loyal to Agatha, but he will cozy up to and use anyone for the advancement of the Heterodynes. Not Zeetha, perhaps, but, then, his interest in Zeetha only started because of her potential usefulness to Agatha. It evolved, especially during the time skip, but that's where it began. And if Zeetha were to betray Agatha, I don't think Higgs would hesitate. Again, to anyone that is not a Heterodyne, his loyalty only lasts so long as they're a benefit to the Heterodynes.

I posit that Orotine isn't a villain, at least anymore than the Kestle or Higgs or even Krosp are, but that she has the potential of using everyone we know in pursuit of an angle nobody is aware of. Tarvek caught on to this when they first met. Figuring out who the Muse's chosen king is, and what games she might be setting up for their sake, or how far she may go to determine which candidate is worthy of the crown, may very well prove a critical factor in Agatha's fate. So the muse is by far the scoundrel prince's top priority at this moment.

[Rockphed]

"I keep thinking he isn't all bad - and then he opens his mouth". Oh, I feel this. Ever want to like someone - a movie star, perhaps, where you like the roles they play - and then they go and talk without a script, and it's ... ewwwww?

Anyway ...

At best a distant third means that someone else has a very strong claim. I wonder if it's Tarvek?

And there's a distinction between heir to a title, and heir to power. There are still people who squabble over who is the proper heir to the Romanov throne in Russia. I believe a key part of the argument is whether or not someone disqualified himself and his entire line in the early 20th century by marrying a commoner. My point being that if one of the competitors somehow gained recognition as Czar, their ability to give orders to Vladimir Putin would remain exactly what it is now ... zero.

If Tarvek were recognized as Storm King, he'd still have very little power. If Martellus' weaker claim were recognized, he'd still have more power, because he's got a military to back him up. Tarvek would probably be a more effective ruler if he had something to rule, but he doesn't.

If he could make his claim stick, he would get lots of people vowing to serve him. His domain is currently occupied by the Wulfenbachs, but Sturmhalten is at least a solid power base.

I'm not talking a traitor to the Storm King, I mean a traitor to anyone else. She sees how things fit together, which is an obscenely powerful trait when you think what that means. Not exactly predicting the future, per se, but being able to spot where things are going long before anyone else, what things could be easily manipulated to change that outcome, etc. This would include spotting dead ends, and knowing when to bail when further effort wouldn't achieve her ends. Such as, for example, when her king has gone off the deep end over a Heterodyne and becomes entirely beyond saving, Orotine would be the one to spot it first, and already be looking for angles on how to preserve the crown. Her actions, in this case, could look outright treasonous from an outside perspective. Now, I have absolutely no doubt that Orotine was, and is, entirely loyal to the Storm King and any successor she finds worthy. However, she's artificial, like the Kestle. Her loyalty isn't human loyalty. And, just like how the Kestle is more than willing to go against Agatha's wishes if it means the survival of the Heterodyne clan, the Muse of Geometry could easily be playing a long game to set the geometry up for an optimal return of the Storm King, one where everybody else are just objects in play. And their benefit only factors in as so far as that benefit might benefit her chosen king.

To put it another way, I think Orotine is to the Muses what Higgs is to the Jaegers. Higgs has never been anything but absolutely loyal to Agatha, but he will cozy up to and use anyone for the advancement of the Heterodynes. Not Zeetha, perhaps, but, then, his interest in Zeetha only started because of her potential usefulness to Agatha. It evolved, especially during the time skip, but that's where it began. And if Zeetha were to betray Agatha, I don't think Higgs would hesitate. Again, to anyone that is not a Heterodyne, his loyalty only lasts so long as they're a benefit to the Heterodynes.

I posit that Orotine isn't a villain, at least anymore than the Kestle or Higgs or even Krosp are, but that she has the potential of using everyone we know in pursuit of an angle nobody is aware of. Tarvek caught on to this when they first met. Figuring out who the Muse's chosen king is, and what games she might be setting up for their sake, or how far she may go to determine which candidate is worthy of the crown, may very well prove a critical factor in Agatha's fate. So the muse is by far the scoundrel prince's top priority at this moment.

My problem with this theory is that Moxana was the Muse who could predict the future.

[eee]

I'm not sure if Krosp is playing the game well here or not. Aside from Higgs being dangerous - which is nicely ambiguous - he's not really revealing anything she probably doesn't already know. And is sliding over a few points that could give her more information, while touching on some things that could be Alba's machinations. He's subtle enough to know he's being pumped; but he's also egocentric enough, he might think he's in charge when he's not.

[Shining Wrath]

I'm not sure if Krosp is playing the game well here or not. Aside from Higgs being dangerous - which is nicely ambiguous - he's not really revealing anything she probably doesn't already know. And is sliding over a few points that could give her more information, while touching on some things that could be Alba's machinations. He's subtle enough to know he's being pumped; but he's also egocentric enough, he might think he's in charge when he's not.

It is somewhat ironic that Krosp knows that Martellus' ego will be his downfall.

[slayerx]

I doubt very much that Orotine is a traitor by nature or otherwise - she and her sisters were literally made to serve the Storm King. The worst I can say about her at the moment is that she is being very coy about who the first and second in line for the Storm King are (She has been very clear about Tweedle being third at best). All we really know based onm her remarks on this page is that he or she is in the current party.

I would, however, be wary of what Albia might have done with her betweentimes, or why Albia is deploying her now.

I don't think she's really been that coy. I feel like the latest page makes it clear that she considers Tarvek her new king and she is the only one that she has referred to as "your majesty"

Uh ... she does refer to someone as her King. Which is almost certainly Tarvek.

But depending on whether or not the marriage was performed - the descendent of the bride might have a claim. Or maybe even the betrothed of the King.

Agatha may be second in line behind Tarvek, and that may have been part of the scheming of the Knights of Jove. Or maybe they didn't realize it - but Zola did. Marry the "Storm King", do him in, announce that as the Heterodyne you inherit the throne and bring forth the obscure legal doctrine that proves it.

I don't think the bride has any decedents. We know that Euph disappeared before she was supposed to be wed and we haven't heard anything about what happened to her. Also Euph was not an only child, she had a brother Bludtharst who we might presume would have been Agatha's ancestor