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2020-10-12, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
I think it's very telling abut the personalities of Seffie and Tweedle in how they refer to the cat. Seffie says "her" immediately. Tweedle refers to the cat as an "it" which I suspect is how he tends to look at nearly everyone else. They are things, tools to be used. Yeah, Tweedle is a monster through and through.
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2020-10-12, 10:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Heh. I just realized that this means the best way for Tweedle to keep the effects of the Kings Touch at bay is to sit in a chair and give the cat scratches. No doubt the cat approves.
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2020-10-12, 11:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
If we are accumulating possible titles:
"What is this worthless thread?"Not "fire at". I never used the word "at"
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2020-10-12, 12:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Pretty much my first thought.
You need something that will stick close to you, listen when you call it and come when you need it.
And you use a cat.
I mean, it's not the worst choice- not aquatic, no venom, no spines or stuff -but, yeah, pretty much anything else'd be a better pick.
And if you absolutely have no other choice at least give your new best friend a good reason to help you when you need her.
The way he's acting towards her the most likely reaction to Tweedle needing a poke from Miss Kitty will be „Huh. Creator doesn't look good. I better make can opener Seffie give me some tuna.”
Okay, that's the most likely reaction anyway, but there's no reason to push it into the triple digits."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2020-10-12, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
A cat's priorities (not in order of importance, for they are all equally important):
Food provider (Krosp: "Food Lady!")
Scritchies
Comfortable lap for napping
We've already seen Martellus fail one of these, and I'm going to provisionally award a second to Seffie as well.
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2020-10-12, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2020-10-12, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Really Tweedle? A cat? A female cat? And Krosp is quite literally the King of Cats?
Yeah, that's is going to work out just great for you. Seems like you're inadvertently
making Krosp a potential Queen and tying yourself to her.
In other news, it sounds like he's going to make another attempt on Tarvek's life and possibly make it look like an accident. How else can he "secure his claim to the throne".Last edited by Zazu Yen; 2020-10-12 at 01:54 PM.
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2020-10-12, 03:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-12, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
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2020-10-12, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
As was proven with Krosp himself here.
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2020-10-12, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tweedle states that the intended leader/ruler of the Bears was to be Vapnoople's Masterpiece. Incidentally, the dialogue also suggest the work started before Baron got to the Doctor...
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2020-10-12, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-13, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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This actually puts Martellus is a more positive light to me, because I suspected (back when Krosp and that female cat were shown) that he was going to use the female cat to somehow control Krosp and either wrestle control of the bears or use it to manipulate Agatha. Now, he might still do that, I admit, but this shows a much more... nice or at least reasonable motivation: to have a creature that emulates the 'Touch of the King' and thus lets him live away from Agatha if they can't undo the process.
So, just that it isn't obviously something evil and manipulative seems a point in his favor.
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2020-10-13, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Martellus is going to wind up in the thrall of Krosp via this kitty. That is what will happen.
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2020-10-13, 04:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
That's easy to navigate. The bear army came first, and always meant to be culminated in a masterpiece creature. Then Krosp was created -- a masterpiece of misbegotten genius and a failure, but only after the fat. And only a failure in design, not in execution, as krosp is exactly what he was built to be.
Also in many ways Krosp WAS Vapnoodle's masterpiece, He's the Vapnoodle creation that finally transcended Vapnoodle. And he was also the Vapnoodle creation that revived his master's mind. From a creative standpoint Krosp is a complete work of genius -- a little vapid and arrogant but highly functional and even clever in his own way
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2020-10-13, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-13, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Really? That's not how I remember it.
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2020-10-13, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-13, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, Krosp was shown dancing with the ladies of the court as a prelude to this, so that could be foreshadowing him being susceptible... It's certainly going to set up a power struggle between them, I'm just fairly certain Krosp will come out on top in a battle of wits with Tweedle.
Last edited by Zazu Yen; 2020-10-13 at 05:34 PM.
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2020-10-13, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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A dead drunk goose could win a battle of wits with Tweedle.
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2020-10-13, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Martellus is smart about some things. His Sparky science, certainly, and he's a lethal fighter and ruthless in his pursuit of power.
But then he goes and botches "The Touch of the King" and winds up needing Agatha alive and nearby when there's a few good reasons to kill her.
He winds up in England with no allies except a non-spark non-fighter (Seffie) and a whole bunch of people who refrain from killing him only because he's momentarily useful. And under those circumstances, he's still plotting to kill Tarvek (my interpretation), despite the fact that Albia can very likely read his mind if she puts out the effort.
He's brave and Sparky and lethal. He doesn't always think things through.This ... is my signature finishing move!
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2020-10-13, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Case in point, the whole 'Zola as fake Heterodyne' scheme.
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2020-10-13, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2020-10-13, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
Before England, there was no reason to see Tweedle as incapable. He was a tough opponent who had been bested by Agatha, as many others had been, but still was at large and dangerous. After he showed up with his self-made problem, however, he became much harder to take seriously.
At the same time, I think that he generally is insensitive, rather than stupid. Like not getting girlie things that he doesn't care about anyway. Or being rude with the muse; that one bordered on stupidity.
Looking back, he is a massive risk-taker. He would have bet for killing Gil rather than running away, he tried an extreme procedure that altered his own chemical balance to bind Agatha, he entered besieged Mechanicsburg, he meleed the Storm King... Only the last one went really well. The other two bets he lost, and Mechanicsburg ended inconclusively (he lost a hand and two years, but those were the years when Gil was hunting his Order, and he temporarily got Agatha as a prisoner).
He also seems to be at ease with and maybe even like war, and that could be why Tarvek spoke so badly of him, and why the Jaeger like him. The Baron went to war to enforce peace and end squabbles, so out of a necessity that would benefit others, while Martellus would go (or goes) to impose his right and gain glory and power for himself. This would be a very negative trait.
It's interesting to consider what would have happened, if Martellus hadn't taken Agatha away. Agatha would have been stuck in the time-frozen city. Once Gil had found a way to get close to her, the Klaus overlay would have killed her.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2020-10-13, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-13, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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I just realized:
Part 2 is 8 years old.
The whole thing is 18 years old.
How old are the experiments again?Not "fire at". I never used the word "at"
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2020-10-13, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXVIII: Dancink! Ve is here for de dancink!
I think it was in comic commentary that the eldest celebrated a significant birthday recently, and is writing his own comics. There might also have been a comment about it in the Discord interview.
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2020-10-14, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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He's 18, and so can now be known as Victor. Experiment #2 is still underage.
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2020-10-14, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gil, that was a nasty trick you should have used on Tweedle. Krosp won't learn anything about respecting other people's food, as he is a cat.
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2020-10-14, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Recklessness is certainly Martellus's fatal flaw. But he is very politically savvy and cunning, so I think calling him dumb is inaccurate.
To be fair to Martellus, his current predicament stems solely from the King's Touch fiasco - if he hadn't done it in the first place, he wouldn't be in England. And assuming Tarvek's death is his current motive - which I don't think he's in any position to pull off, as he's struggling just to stay relevant right now - I doubt he'd be foolish enough to attempt a high-profile assassination right under the nose of a god-queen.The Everyman's Guide to Taking Up Arms - A Guide to Fighters
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