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2020-10-07, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
though I am also of the belief that he doesn't know the whole story. He gave that half to her to figure out. She apparently succeeded as she (in my mind) ran off without reporting the inconsistency. So he knows there is some mystery or oddity or something so important that it drove her to Redcloak's study and he killed her.
I think his commitment to the Plan might be less now than before.
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2020-10-07, 06:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
Don't know if already noticed, but Xykon goes from skullcracked in panel 3 to completely healed in panel 4. Does he have regeneration?
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2020-10-07, 07:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-07, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmmm, cheese.
For the French, I find that Reblochon is better than Brie.
For Italian: go into the Abruzzi region and get their sharp/picante Provolone in a big ball. Way better than store bought.
In America I'm a fan of Tilamook Extra Sharp Cheddar.
Norwegian Jarlsberg is a lot like Swiss cheese, and I've grown fond of it.
Edam and Gouda: good with wine and crackers, yes.
There's some stuff from (IIRC) Ireland that we get in big blocks at Sam's, Kerrygold, that I've become quite fond of.
Those Kraft singles: I can't eat them the any more.
Monterey Jack: I used to like a slice of that on my apple pie, slightly warmed, but my taste buds have changed a bit and the Jack cheeses no mi piace these days.
But the King of cheese? The Royalty?
Mozzarella di buffala, as made in Mondragone, Italy. (Campania regione)
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2020-10-07, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-07, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
The purpose of the Meld Into Stone spell is to allow the caster to hide. The magic is designed to leave no trace of it being cast. And while they are in there, they can heal and buff themselves.
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2020-10-07, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-07, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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In the 19th century processed foods were for rich people. When they became accessible to the general public it became a fad that got carried away. In the middle of the 20th century (great depression and a war fought on two other continents) there were a number of major logistical problems with feeding everyone that heavily processed food could solve. These long periods made processed food seem normal to us.
Listen, why do you* talk to me about american cheese if it's not american cheese.
Also how does that make sense.
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2020-10-07, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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These things did not only happen in the United states of America, though.
"American cheese" is not a term for any type of cheese made in America, it's a term for a variant of Cheddar that was one of America's first exports. We make a wide variety of cheeses, many of which we haven't significantly changed from how the variety was originally made in Europe (hence American made "Swiss" cheese).
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2020-10-07, 10:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1216 - The Discussion Thread
The most metashellgame-satisfying solution for me would be the gate being behind every door, just in the way nobody expects. E.g. permanent Wall of Good with mundane disguise in the entry corridor, or getting resurrected in the gate room after one dies fighting undead monster.
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2020-10-07, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Heh. I spent several years working on uranium mine waste, and am amused by references to the "yellow cake" food product.
We know that Xykon spends periods of time away without telling his top people what he's doing. He might be working on magic items, such as regeneration or automatic healing that work on him.
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2020-10-07, 10:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Fair point. I can only wildly speculate to further explain it.
Out of curiosity, are the ingredients of your food more like western Europe or more like the nearby parts of South America?Peanuts? How dare you!
Actually, I think we've found more traces of peanuts by weight then we ever grew peanuts....
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2020-10-07, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Regarding Tsukiko's whole study debacle:
Xykon is suspicious of his arcane half. He doesn't want Redcloak to know he's suspicious (because of the don't care/don't know thing he's got going), so he asks Tsukiko - who he knows can understand arcane and divine magic very well - to analyze it. Somehow he doesn't tell Tsukiko there's a divine half, but Tsukiko figures it out through the MiTD. She goes into Redcloak's study to verify it, when Redcloak comes back from the Resistance stuff. Tsukiko tells RC that Xykon gave it to her. Redcloak "verifies" it for her and kills her. He tells Xykon he killed her, and specifically asks how she got the arcane half in the first place. Judging by Xykon's pause, he knows that Redcloak knows that Xykon was suspicious of him via Tsukiko, and so Xykon lies. Jirix then comes in spouting whatever to end the conversation.
I would say Xykon still has the upper hand, because he's just that much powerful, but to say he's a master planner is...a very generous description. Certainly Redcloak is over his head in this, but - ironically - Xykon is just as committed to the Plan; he died for it, and he's willing to actually pay it attention.
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2020-10-07, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-07, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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We know he's complained on screen about only being able to spend 8 hours a day making magic items.
Aaaand now I have a plot in my head where the PCs find out all the cursed items in the campaign are the product of a bored lich.
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2020-10-07, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Duly stolen.
One of my PCs still is not aware that her amulet that gives here adv on one ability check per day is cursed ... (Ghosts of Salt Marsh item found).
I may, however, port your idea over from "bored lich" to "Iuz" as the one who makes cursed items to cause untold misery to mortals who value magic items highly.
Need to go back and see what I have in my notes regarding that nasty old demigod/powerful evil personage ...Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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2020-10-07, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well... I don't like to waste my cheese.
I don't like to share my cheese with people who won't appreciate it.
Thankfully, a well done Camembert can get the Englishman to have heart attack without even touching it.
How do you know about this?
Do you speak about foie gras or about mousse de foie gras.
I always found the former to be much better than the latter.
As she's a cleric of Thor, i assume she's LG or NG.Last edited by Petrocorus; 2020-10-07 at 11:54 AM.
Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
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2020-10-07, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2020-10-07, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Given Thor seems to be CG (only cares about rules to the extent of keeping the Snarl locked down), she should be NG, CG or CN. And no, I have no idea how LG-bordering-on-LN Durkon can be a cleric of Thor.
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2020-10-07, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's a certain amount of precedent for "gods allowing their clerics to break the one-step rule". I could see Thor being "patron of dwarves" for his giving them advice about how to act honourably and thus avoid Hel - and so, having a specific exemption to the one-step rule in this case.
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2020-10-07, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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All fine and interesting points, folks.
As far as X.'s commitment to the Plan is concerned, I'm with understatement for much the same reasons. While this happened well before the Tsukiko-affair (not that kind of affair!), how he went out of his way to save Redcloak and make sure he is healed after the throne room fight and what he told Red about the Plan immediately afterwards („all I care about is the MacGuffin”), speaking in first person plural about ruling the world during the whole conversation is telling. While he trusts Redcloak less at this point (which is balanced out somewhat by the fact that he does not need him to be quite as much of a trusty lackey anymore now that (as far as X. knows) he does not carry the phylactery), it would appear that if nothing else, he'd like to play this game to its end nnow that he invested a good third of his active life into it.
As for the thing with Tsukiko, I'd also consider the possibility that X. was(/is) indeed suspicious, but (with some „help” from Redcloak and Jirix) he might have realized that giving the arcane half to Tsukiko was a really dumb idea that he did not properly think through and he is better off with only one right-hand person he should not trust after all.
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2020-10-07, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I see you're a man of wealth and taste.
Though you don't seem to care for blue cheeses like Roquefort.
So do i, culturally.
I'm French and i eat French most of the time, or Italian. As do most of the people here.
Each community as it's own culinary tradition, obviously, but many are influenced by the French one.
The Haitian and Créole seem like divergent French traditions, with some African influence and adaptation to the environment.
The Haitians are big on fish, chicken, goat, and quarry meat.
The Créoles are French and are mostly French culinary, with some original meals (one or two of them are really weird), and the same emphasis on fish, chicken, and quarry meat that the Haitian.
The Dominicans and the Brazilians eat what you can expect. The Brazilians are notably obsessed with their feijões and their farinha, i.e red beans and cassava flour. Those are the thing i don't look forward to when i'm in Brazil.
The Maroons have some specific traditions given they remained half-isolated in the jungle for like 2 centuries. I don't know a lot about them.
All of them have a big emphasis on rice.
I don't know many amerindians, so i don't know about them.
The Chineses eat chinese. The Hmong food seem close to chinese to me.
I don't know what the surinamieses eat.
Most French are not.
Heck... a good proportion of French don't know about it.
OotS Thor rather strike me as NG.
He's quite lax on rules, but i really don't think he's as lax on honor and morality.Last edited by Petrocorus; 2020-10-07 at 01:02 PM.
Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2020-10-07, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Que tous les anciens dieux et les nouveaux protègent la France.
Resistance Data in MM, Volo's, MToF. -- -- Petrocorus's 3.5 Paladin Builds List. -- -- French vs. EnglishOriginally Posted by King Louis XIII in The Musketeers
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2020-10-07, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Did you have to give up coffee too? Because if so, what would be the point of living anymore?
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2020-10-07, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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You can cast on *yourself*. Even if Durkon has the spell prepared twice, he couldn't include Minrah in the casting. But if he hasn't dismissed it, it's probably still active, so in 5 rounds they can go misty again.
You can hear while melded into stone. Good thing too, or they'd have to guess when it was safe to emerge, and unless they guessed the same, they might emerge at very different times.
Unless the dungeon tunnels are *really* generic, Team Evil should realize whether they've been in this one before by the time they reach the first room. On the other hand, it would make a pretty funny meta joke if they couldn't tell one generically drawn dungeon from another.
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2020-10-07, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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I imagine the lack of Meteor Swarm blast marks will be something of a giveaway.
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2020-10-07, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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But you can still kill an Englishman with it, right?
My own pet theory is that the Hundred Years War was actually resolved with a Food Wars Style shokugeki/cook-off. Anyone who's had English cooking and French cooking wouldn't even have to guess the winner. I suppose the French won, but , faced with the reality of having to eat English cooking if they took the island off the cost of France, decided it would be best if they went their separate ways.
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