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    Default Re: How this ends for Durkon

    Even if Durkon has no close blood relatives, he and Sigdi must belong to one of those few clans represented by their elders in the council, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precure View Post
    Even if Durkon has no close blood relatives, he and Sigdi must belong to one of those few clans represented by their elders in the council, no?
    No. There is no must.
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    Obligatory link to "How Famicilide Works"

    It kills everyone related by blood to the target, in any way; and then everyone related by blood to those killed in step 1. A common ancestor, no matter how far back. It's not limited to "same clan"; clans can be expected to intermarry.

    Casting it on Durkon would wipe the entire settlement and make a hefty dent in the rest of the dwarven population; and only the fact that the OotS world is very young would prevent it from wiping the entire dwarven race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Norbert View Post
    Obligatory link to "How Famicilide Works"

    It kills everyone related by blood to the target, in any way; and then everyone related by blood to those killed in step 1. A common ancestor, no matter how far back.
    Yes matter how far back. Step 1 is not inhibited by a dead ancestor, but step 2 is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malloon View Post
    Xykon has no idea about Durkon's family. Xykon didn't witness the first use of familicide, and probably has no idea it even exists. If he did, he might research it for funsies, but I don't see at what point he might have gotten time to do that. But even if he did, he's not going to just waste it on a dwarf he's just met (from his perspective). Xykon likes his ludicrous applications of force, but familicide wouldn't kill Durkon any faster than a lot of other spells - familicide is just more personal.

    IF he's researched it, and IF he's really, really annoyed with Durkon and IF he finds out Durkon has a large family he cares about and IF he doesn't realise that most of that family isn't related to him by blood (familicide would kill his mum, Sigdi, Kudzu and Hilgya - devastating, but not the mass slaughter Xykon would hope for), then, possibly. So, no. Rest easy. All that's endangering Durkon's family is a reality-erasing apocalypse, you've got nothing to worry about.
    To be fair, I wouldn't put it past Xykon to be an admirer of Hareta's work. Sure, he's not much for history, but you gotta appreciate that level of innovation in sadistic cruelty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woweedd View Post
    To be fair, I wouldn't put it past Xykon to be an admirer of Hareta's work. Sure, he's not much for history, but you gotta appreciate that level of innovation in sadistic cruelty.
    Probably not. She was a loser who didn't have the guts to stay in the game, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Probably not. She was a loser who didn't have the guts to stay in the game, after all.
    Which stroke me always as kinda of silly:
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    if it wasn't for Redcloack who had the idea (and helped him to realize it), X would never thought about becoming a lich.
    (And if Lirian was a bit less silly and killed the couple on the spot, he wouldn't have had the chance to).

    So he is the same kind of loser, only a bit luckier with his enemies and with his associates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    I'm reasonably certain that we will never see Familicide again.
    Yea, I'm in club "never again". V's act is much less dramatic if it's something that people can do willy nilly.
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    I always figured he dies getting smoked by Redcloak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umberhulk View Post
    I always figured he dies getting smoked by Redcloak
    Is that anything like the people who will be lined up to smoke or snort Keith Richards' ashes when he dies?
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    Do you think dwarves ashes are greasy?

    More like he dies heroically, protecting others, at Redcloak’s hands in a cleric battle.
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    I'm guessing he'll survive if only to bump up the number of good fathers.
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    Well yeah i get that its kind of mad. I like that giant weaves lots of threads into major plot points. This is me weaving those threads on my own. I was also confidant that Cersei was going to order the destruction of King’s Landing by wildfire and then get murdered by Jaime - a revisiting of the events before the main storyline. But alas I was way off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umberhulk View Post
    But alas I was way off.
    That could still happen in the books!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Probably not. She was a loser who didn't have the guts to stay in the game, after all.
    Well, yes, her Familicide did have a tragic flaw in that he wasn't the one using it, but he could rectify that error....

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