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2020-10-23, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
I would not eat it (I would never eat peanut butter to begin with), but I would call it a pizza because I try to be open-minded.
That was all I was trying to get you to say.
"Bug" is a category that specifically only refers to an order of insects. Unless, of course, you would like to revisit that "hot/spicy" thing?Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-23 at 08:14 PM.
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2020-10-23, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
People have different tastes for different foods. If people like pineapple pizza, then that's great. If people don't like pineapple pizza then that's also great. People can eat whatever they want so I don't understand where'sour complain about different tastes of food coming from?
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2020-10-23, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
No, that is "True Bugs" which is a much stricter category than "Bug."
Unless you want to argue that king crabs, coconut crabs, stone crabs, and porceline crabs aren't actually crabs becuase they don't fit under the the category that was arbitrarily decided to be the "true" crabs.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
No, it's pretty much the same thing. It's just that some people don't know the difference between "bug" and "insect", and since you pointedly noted earlier about some people not knowing the difference between "hot" and "spicy", I couldn't help but think that you would appreciate making the distinction.
My whole thing here is trying to encourage you to loosen up, if that hasn't been made abundantly clear by now.Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-23 at 06:39 PM.
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2020-10-23, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-23, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
Okay, since you didn't answer me on the crabs thing...
Are Turkeys cold-blooded?
BEcuase, by pure taxonomies, Turkeys--all birds, are reptiles.
You see, Turkey's are a subset of aviens, which are a subset of dinosaurs, which are still considered to be a subset of reptiles despite mountains of evidence that indicates that dinosaurs were not reptiles (and the fact that Therasuars and Mosasaurs being reptiles is why they're not considered dinosaurs)
So, if Lobsters are not a bug becuase they aren't part of the taxonomic group arbitrarily dubbed "True Bug," than Turkey's most be cold-blooded as they are, taxonomically, reptiles.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-23, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
Cladistics disagrees with you: Turkey's are birds. All members of the class Aves belong to the clade Theropoda. Theropoda is a subset of the clade Saurischia, which is a subset of the clade Dinosauria, the clade that includes all dinosaurs.
So yes, Turkery's are dinosaurs. All birds are considered to be dinosaurs.
Which means, taxonomically, they are reptiles.
So... By telling me that a lobster is not a bug, you are telling me that turkeys are cold blooded.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
"Cold-blooded" is a trait something can have, not a category.
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2020-10-23, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
Turkeys are of the class Aves. Reptiles are of the class Reptilia. Aves is not Reptilia, so turkeys cannot be reptiles and so turkeys are not a subset of dinosaurs, QED.
And if this makes no sense because in all probability dinosaurs evolved into birds and dinosaurs shouldn't even have taxonomy (let alone be classified as reptiles) because of how little we know about them to date then dude that is exactly the point I am making. I'm using rhetorical device to show how your argument can lead to ideas you disagree with to showcase how that argument is flawed. Outside of academia, how things are reasonably understood is more important than how things are strictly and restrictively classified. Turkeys are probably evolved from dinosaurs which were probably not reptiles, despite what the formal classification system says. You would call a woodlouse a bug despite what the classification system says. I would call a peanut-butter-and-whatever-pizza a pizza despite what you say a pizza must be.
Again, I'm trying to encourage you to loosen up. Let people enjoy their peanut butter and pineapple pizzas so long as they aren't forcing you to eat them. Let people say "spicy" when they mean "hot" so long as what they are communicating is clear. You don't need to soapbox other people into accepting IFF distinctions that you think should be in place. It'll be ok.Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-23 at 07:15 PM.
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2020-10-23, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
This is as bad as the people who call me weird for eating seafood pizza.
What's wrong with eating bugs? [insert joke about American food regulations here]
Food dislikes are like veganism. It's fine for you not to eat something, and if I'm cooking for you then I'll follow these as best I can. But when you start telling me wghat I shouldn't eat the discussion ends.
I'm not vegetarian because I love offal, in many ways the liver and kidneys are the best tasting part of the animal. Other people have this weird aversion to eating offal, annoyingly without ever trying it, because you're not supposed to eat organs or something? Like humans have been doing for thousands of years? Now I'll admit haggis gave me pause, but I've tried it and it's not as terrible as I feared, and I've always loved blood sausages.
If the idea of eating organs does make you feel weird try lamb hearts. Tastes meaty in a similar fashion to muscle, just mind the valves.
But at the same time I'm not going to force offal down your throat, because eventually you'll discover the two foods I dislike: walnuts (the texture is just wrong) and beansprouts (which taste of flavourless water).
I think I've lost track of what I was saying.
I've never eaten whole crab (just crabcakes), and never eaten lobster, but I'd like to try. I do quite like my shellfish.
Although I guess I'm a bit late on this, because I now see people arguing over thunder lizards.
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2020-10-23, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-23, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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I was going to make a joke about a book, but I'm going to err on the side of caution.
If you ever make it close to the MS gulf coast for any reason, I'll take you to a super tacky casino that has a fantastic buffet. They have snow crab, jonah crab, and dungeoness. Dungeoness is where it's at, let me tell ya. No lobster, you want to be in the near-Canada coasts for that (lobster is also amazing). Anything for my fellow shellfish lover!
Not at all!Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-23 at 08:21 PM.
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2020-10-23, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
No, because Crustaceans were never insects. What you are arguing is analogous to arguing that Turkeys should be considered lizards. They (and us) are reptiles, but their common ancestor was before insects became insects.
Unless you are using Bug to mean arthropod, which is one of two uses the other being specifically insects which is where that point of contention may be.
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2020-10-23, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
I have already explicitly stated that I am referring to arthropods and a handful of other invertebrates when saying bugs.
The argument on taxonomy and cladistics was started when Pelee cited that Lobsters are not classified as part of the category that is referred to as "True Bugs" in taxonomy. The Dinosaur argument came when he did not respond to my pointing out that by that logic a king crab isn't a crab becuase it's not part of the group taxonomically considered "true crabs."I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 08:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
Enough Already!
Rater: I agree people have mistaken ideas about hot and spicy. I don't care about the rest... you are easy baited, or just don't know when to stop arguing. This whole morning has been more interesting than a Presidential debate, but not as good as the only one I've ever watched (with Wierd Al as moderator).
Pick a tomato, ride a turkey to Canada and ask a crab if it likes pineapple! (Or to Hawaii and ask a pineapple if it likes lobster) Whatever... its a fun image. But we need to move on, else Rater's going to explode, have a stroke, and/or develop super powers.
I'm going back to ignoring the AFL Grand Final and try to paint some Space Marines.Last edited by Tarmor; 2020-10-23 at 08:39 PM.
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2020-10-23, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
So you're saying we need to keep arguing about stuff so that we can settle the debate on whether or not I'd immediately go mad with power if I got super powers.
(Also, Hindsight: Dark Phonix was a better example than the Hulk for what I was going for.)
So... Is a Hamburger a sandwich?I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 08:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
In the most standard preparation and style of serving, yes, absolutely. If you mean something other than the ground cooked meat patty served between a split bun (plus or minus an assortment of garnishes and condiments) that will usually be referred to differently. 'Hamburger' is more of a categorization than a specific sandwich, tho, as it is almost always named with its most prominent toppings.
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2020-10-23, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
I just think it's nuts that people are letting LaZodiac and Rater off the hook trying to claim tomato sauce isn't acidic. LaZodiac even called it base.
The pH of Pineapple is between 3 and 4. Which makes it an acid. Since base is anything higher than 7 (7 being neutral)
The pH of canned tomato sauce is less than 3. Canned tomato sauce is more of an acid than the pineapple. Raw tomatoes, if you make the sauce yourself which I'd recommend if you can get the right tomato, is around 4. So the same as a pineapple. Hell, tomatoes even need slightly acidic soil to grow, requiring lower than a 7.5 soil acidity. There is a reason in cooking that you add a little sugar and salt to a tomato sauce and it's to cut the acidity of the sauce. Rosemary, thyme and oregano are also really good flavors for cutting the acidic nature of ingredients. There's a reason they're the generic pizza spices and not just because they're common in Italian cooking.
Also, if Rater wants to avoid people confusing "spicy" for "hot" when he actually means "has spices" the proper cooking term is "spiced" not "spicy."
Pineapples also do have something to do with Hawaii. They have tons of pineapple plantations on the islands. They're not endemic to Hawaii but the fruit has a pretty deep history with the islands. None of it positive and all of it against forum rules.Last edited by Razade; 2020-10-23 at 10:12 PM.
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2020-10-23, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
I never said that tomato sauce wasn't an acid.
I said that Pinaple is acidic when talking about it's flavor and texture: You can taste the acid in pineapple, which clashes with the smooth creaminess of mozzarella just as much as the sweetness of the pineapple clashes with the spiced, savory sauce.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2020-10-23, 10:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
With lockdown preventing gaming, I've had more time for other hobbies. Usually I paint fantasy figures, but I've been painting figures from my Space Crusade board game for a while. So the marines are Blood Angels, Imperial Fist and Ultramarines. (A squad of four marines with commander, each). I'm about to start base coats.
A few weeks back I painted the Chaos Marines, and used a paint scheme based on the 'Children of Purgatos'. Rather than muck around trying to get an image on here, here's a link to my blog post at the time:
https://tarmor21.wordpress.com/2020/...space-crusade/
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2020-10-23, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
Acids taste sour (as opposed to bases, which taste bitter). Pineapples do not taste sour. Fresh pineapples contain bromelain, which is corrosive, but this is denatured with heat and cooked pineapple dies not have the sharpness that fresh pineapple does.
I cannot relate to any of your statements about cooked pineapple taste because I have never experienced it as you describe.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-10-23, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Rater's Ridiculously Rambunctious Random Ranter #229
This whole argument is so tiring.
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