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Re: Warhammer 40K Tabletop Thread XLI: Secondary OpinionsEvil round every corner, careful not to step in any.
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Re: Warhammer 40K Tabletop Thread XLI: Secondary Opinions
Forum ate my Fast Attack post.
Assault Squads; Bad.
Outriders; Resilient, but lack the firepower to be competitive in the New Marine meta. Bad.
Invader ATVs; Gimmickly resilient. Lack the firepower to be competitive in the New Marine meta. What makes them good (i.e; A gimmick) is likely to get nerfed. Maybe wait until the first Errata - or CA'20? - until you go and buy 9.
Bike Squads; Firstborn units with access to masse Grav-weapons, are very good - especially when they have 3 Wounds and T5. "What if Terminators could take Grav-weapons...They'd be really good..." Taking more than the minimum Bikers, is too many.
Scout Bikes; Entire unit can have Astartes Grenade Launchers, and that's...Decent. Main use is in a Chapter where they can Advance and Charge. Alternatively, give them a bunch of bonuses to Charge and have them move normally. Their role is to be a non-Concealed Positions Turn 1 Charge, and that's not nothing, since Scout Bikes don't rely on deploying first to grab board control which allows them to Charge. They just have enormous movement, and auto-Advance 6", and carry all Assault weapons.
Attack Bikes; Unsurprisingly very effective with Multi-Meltas. Arguably best in slot. But in their role, compete with Eradicators.
Suppressors; Highly valued in the New Marine meta. Smokescreen and Phobos Keywords make them viable, even if they are 'only' T4 with 2 Wounds each.
Inceptors; Trades firepower for resilience (T5, 3 Wounds). Here, we see that Inceptors never actually had Heavy Bolters, and are stuck at 1 Damage. Hopefully this means that Deathwatch will ramp them significantly. But, for now, trading firepower for resilience is something that only Iron Hands can gamble on.
Storm Speeders; All terrible, too overcosted. T6 and 10 Wounds is bad. All bad. All the time.
Storm Speeders have 3 Datasheets.
Land Speeders; An argument could be made that they're better than Attack Bikes - because Fly - and they are much, much better than Storm Speeders - because points cost. Don't necessarily compete with Eradicators.
Land Speeders have 3 Datasheets.
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