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    I see Durkon's time as a vampire taught him the utility of Silence.
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    Greyview he was just talking to them and they attacked him - bad dwarves.

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    I love how you did Greyview's expressions. The confusion and then the determination. Amazing!
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    I truly hope Roy gives it to Durkon. He took it upon himself to do this and cost the party whatever element of surprise they might have had.. for nothing.

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    I remain impressed by The Giant's ability to predict what people wil ltalk about in the threads.

    Also, Greyview, shoot raise the alarm first, then quip.

    Also also, Durkon is a true friend, always thinking of what's convenient for his best buddy.
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    Raising the alarm is apparently not a free action

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    "Na sense in makin' it harder fer tha lad"
    heh, always the team player
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    Well, that explains why Greyview didn't say anything last comic. He was uncertain what to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feytouched View Post
    I truly hope Roy gives it to Durkon. He took it upon himself to do this and cost the party whatever element of surprise they might have had.. for nothing.
    If Roy would have let Durkon cast Sending, then he could have talked with Redcloak without revealing that they were physically close.
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    That's very accommodating of you, Durkon. Hopefully Roy is as understanding as you seem to be.

    So i understand that though Durkon is older than Roy, he's at roughly the same age state (young adult) as him. I've never thought about him calling Roy "lad" before, does he see him as a younger peer or closer to whatever a 20-something dwarf would be? Obviously he looks up to Roy as a leader and treats him as an adult and everything, i'm just curious now that i've noticed it.
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    Durkon, Lawful to a fault as always, I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    If Roy would have let Durkon cast Sending, then he could have talked with Redcloak without revealing that they were physically close.
    But Redclaok would have expected them to show up all the same.
    besides, you cannot negotiate in 25 words.
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    That's very accommodating of you, Durkon. Hopefully Roy is as understanding as you seem to be.

    So i understand that though Durkon is older than Roy, he's at roughly the same age state (young adult) as him. I've never thought about him calling Roy "lad" before, does he see him as a younger peer or closer to whatever a 20-something dwarf would be? Obviously he looks up to Roy as a leader and treats him as an adult and everything, i'm just curious now that i've noticed it.
    Maybe it's not lad as "younger male" but lad as in "go out drinking with the lads"?
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    Nice to see Durkon learning a few tricks from his evil self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arverst_aegnar View Post
    That's very accommodating of you, Durkon. Hopefully Roy is as understanding as you seem to be.

    So i understand that though Durkon is older than Roy, he's at roughly the same age state (young adult) as him. I've never thought about him calling Roy "lad" before, does he see him as a younger peer or closer to whatever a 20-something dwarf would be? Obviously he looks up to Roy as a leader and treats him as an adult and everything, i'm just curious now that i've noticed it.
    Panel 9 implies he regards them all as young.

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    he better not murder them at the same time.
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    Well, if nothing else it appears Durkon realised he just catastrophically messed things up for the rest of the party by attempting to carry out his god's wishes...

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    It was at least brilliant to put the Silence on Greyview. Now he has to run all the way into the dungeon to warn Team Evil, who hopefully are embroiled in combat with some big nasty that they can't easily get away from. Although this will tip them off about MitD pretty quickly.

    If team dwarf is truly lucky, Greyview will end up endangered by something in there too.

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    If Roy would have let Durkon cast Sending, then he could have talked with Redcloak without revealing that they were physically close.
    They know empirically from V though, that a Redcloak expecting attack will set some nasty magical traps though. Tipping him off either way could have been bad.

    I don't agree with what Durkon did, but at the end of the day Durkon's true boss is Thor, not Roy.
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    So it IS only Xykon, RC and Oona in that cave. Well, for the moment anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    It was at least brilliant to put the Silence on Greyview. Now he has to run all the way into the dungeon to warn Team Evil, who hopefully are embroiled in combat with some big nasty that they can't easily get away from. Although this will tip them off about MitD pretty quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feytouched View Post
    I truly hope Roy gives it to Durkon. He took it upon himself to do this and cost the party whatever element of surprise they might have had.. for nothing.
    From Durkon's perspective, getting the drop on Xykon and just defeating him doesn't address the more pressing issue, the existential sword of Damocles. The rifts are already deteriorating, how much longer would it take for the Gods to inevitably unravel the world even if this one gate is protected? He took the only chance he saw to actually fix that problem, and unfortunately it didn't pan out.
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    Loving these short (no pun intented) but simple solutions the dwarves are tossing out. I also like how they've managed to outgambit Team Evil without the latter having to hold the villain ball.

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    Great comic, I love that it shows some of the mechanics of spells and the zone of silence. I am curious to see what Roy and the team will do now. Did the wolf not get hit? I don't see any damage.

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    I hope we get back to the rest of the Order soon, we haven’t seen them in four months, I miss them.
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    But what about Wind Walk?

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    What do you mean?
    If they had put the spell on any part of the area, as soon as Greyview left the radius he'd be able to just call into the dungeon. As it is, he'll need to get within sight or 20ft instead before they notice him.

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    Ya know, I can't help but wonder what the tracks inside the cave were that Oona had found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacky720 View Post
    But what about Wind Walk?


    If they had put the spell on any part of the area, as soon as Greyview left the radius he'd be able to just call into the dungeon. As it is, he'll need to get within sight or 20ft instead before they notice him.
    And what does this have to do with Monster-san?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    What do you mean?
    Silence can be cast on a creature, object, or point in space. Usually you want one of the last two options because there's no will save to overcome it that way. Durkon however, chose the more difficult first option because then, the spell sticks to Greyview and will keep him quiet all the way until he can reach his allies. This was a reasonable tactic since worgs have weak will saves.
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    Ah Durkon, Always so thoughtful! Love his last line.

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