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2020-10-19, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Maybe, though "the lad" sounds more like how you refer to a youngster -- which is probably what kickstarted my curiosity.
I almost commented on how long it had been since we'd seen the Order, but then i thought, 'How long has it been, really?' and dropped it. Apparently almost 4 months, which considering the rate this comic updates (not a complaint), isn't that long, but is pretty long."Are the gods not just?"
"Oh no, child. What would become of us if they were?"
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2020-10-19, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-19, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
My post had two different things in it:
1) The mechanics of Greview being silenced
2) Team Evil potentially ending up in combat with some tough monsters, impairing their ability to continue chasing the dwarves.
Getting tipped off about MitD referred to the latter. They're in a door with Xs on it, so they won't be expecting any monsters. But MitD was falsely painting doors, so there's a nonzero chance they actually all ran into a fresh dungeon teeming with enemies.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2020-10-19, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
And now we have definitive proof that pessimism does in fact pay.
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2020-10-19, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-19, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
If team evil is in combat, they probably won't even know it was the worg with silence casted on it until it is dispelled.
And can they even cast dispel in a field of silence?
Just trying to figure it out and futilely attempting to talk to one another in the silence would probably be a hilarious waste of time.Avatar by linklele!
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2020-10-19, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Poor Roy. All this time spent planning the perfect way to defeat Xykon, and his best friends screws everything up at the last moment. Our party leader is gonna be extremely pissed.
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2020-10-19, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
From this: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/silence.htm new creatures entering the Silence field around Greyview, get a Will save and Spell Resistance, if applicable, against the effects.
LOL if it ended up fizzling a spell or two while Team Evil was in combat.
Durkon and Minrah really didn't have an exit strategy beyond running. Wow.
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2020-10-19, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
This.
Reasons to love this comic:
1. Greyview is in it. (My nose was very confused just made me laugh. I have two dogs)
2. Tactical use of a low level spell in a high level encounter (high level in the sense that Redcloak and Xykon are the problem)
3. Why they can't stop and heal
4. The last panel: Durkon, always thinking about others.
As to the assertion of 'evil dwarves' that is an ally of their enemy, and all they needed to do was knock him out. (But Minrah missed, so that's moot). Also, if we recall recent history, Greyview chomped down on Minrah's foot ...Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-10-19 at 09:28 AM.
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2020-10-19, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-10-19, 09:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Huh. Missed that. Regardless, they know where he is, which is still something they don't have with the Order.
Because he's been painting doors.
Why not? Redcloak, of course, has the advantage of not needing a Bluff check. And also has a direct stake in finding the right door while the MitD has no stake in it at all, of course.Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-19 at 09:31 AM.
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2020-10-19, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I was wondering where Greyview went.
Also, I see Durkon likes to prep all these super situational spells in the morning. :P
Also 2, they knew there are intruders in town. They could very well suspect that Durkon drew the extra Xs to hinder their efforts.Last edited by Goblin_Priest; 2020-10-19 at 09:34 AM.
Attention LotR fans
Spoiler: LotRThe scouring of the Shire never happened. That's right. After reading books I, II, and III, I stopped reading when the One Ring was thrown into Mount Doom. The story ends there. Nothing worthwhile happened afterwards. Middle-Earth was saved.
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2020-10-19, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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In memory of Evisceratus: he dreamed of a better world, but he lacked the class levels to make the dream come true.
Ridiculous monsters you won't take seriously even as they disembowel you
my take on the highly skilled professional: the specialized expert
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2020-10-19, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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No - only familiars have an empathic link like that. Animal Companions need to be handled like any other animal; worgs are more intelligent and can communicate via speech, but the Silence is stopping that. Oona won't have any way of detecting danger from Greyview mentally.
Yeah, that's what blew my mind the most I understood them not doing anything but running before, but they definitely have the rounds now to wind walk etc given that they waited until TE was all the way out of sight.
Casting it on a fixed point in the air would have meant Greyview could simply move 20ft and then howl unimpeded. In other words, not a great plan.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2020-10-19, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
-Valery Legasov in Chernobyl
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2020-10-19, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Not every time.
And they know the Order is around here and most importantly, that the Order doesn't want them to succeed.
Because Xykon doesn't want to overthink things. An ennemy appears at the same time as a problem, absent a reason to suspect otherwise, ennemy action is the assumed cause of the problem.Forum Wisdom
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2020-10-19, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Yes, the door is marked with an X. Yes, it's possible monsters are still inside.
It still doesn't mean they automatically realize what's going on.
First, didn't Oona say they are still leaving monsters behind so that her people can still have food and such?
Second, it could be a mark made by mistake or that the monster isn't the only one who marks doors. We saw him do it once.
In fact, when we saw him do it, he asked for permission. Therefore, it's likely that other people marked doors before that.
So even if team evil suspect things, it's more likely they will suspect each other in general, not the monster in particular.
Heck, they could even suspect that Durkon was running around marking doors for all they know.
To be honest, I think that would have been my way of thinking.
Next time you go door hunting, go over each door already marked.
If they are empty, it would probably take just a couple of minutes. If there are monsters there, might as well go at that particular door. It's as random as anything juts in case Durkon did that on purpose for them.
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2020-10-19, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I wasn't talking about an empathic link of any sort, though. Real world animals can convey such messages just fine, and Greyview's intelligence is more of the human sort. He has an expressive face and can use any number of gestures which Oona, who knows him well, will understand well enough withoutresorting to some kind of telepathy.
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2020-10-19, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Technically, he did follow Roy's orders letter, not spirit, but still.
That's a possibility.
Sure, but by the time he's close enough to Oona for that to matter, the Silence would have done its job of delaying the alarm further.Last edited by Psyren; 2020-10-19 at 10:11 AM.
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2020-10-19, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Never claimed otherwise.
Yes, and the Order is an unknown distance away and in an unknown location. The MitD is neither of these.
What's to overthink? There are X options. Eliminating Y of them is fast and simple. Plus, it's not like Xykon and Redcloak completely trust Team Evil right now regardless.Last edited by Peelee; 2020-10-19 at 10:14 AM.
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2020-10-19, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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He is pretty much the epitome of Lawful... So much so, I'd expect him to become whatever the Valhalla equivalent of a Deva is, upon his final death.
As distrusting of each other as X and RC have become, it's not that surprising if each of them were suspecting each other, something in the Bugbear village, or the Order, before they consider the MITD messing with them.
Heck, they may think it's Serini. Depends on what they know about her final disposition, and what covers her section in that diary.
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2020-10-19, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, I am slightly egomaniac. Why didn't you ask?
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