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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    So this is the plain, a Proficiency monkey. It's a skill monkey but with tools and all armor proficiencies.

    Goals

    Proficiency in light, medium, heavy armor, and shields.
    Proficiency in all skills
    Expertise in as many skill as posable
    Proficiency in as many tools and instruments as possible.
    If possible 6 levels of artificer for expertise in tools.
    Know as many languages as possible.

    My current thought was
    Race Half-elf Common, Elvish, Dwarven, Skills: Investigation, Animal Handling

    Background: Izzet engineer Arcane, investigation Calligrapher's Supplies Goblin

    LV 1 Rogue 1: light armor, thieves tools, Acrobatics, Athletics, Deception, Insight, Expertise Acrobatics, Athletics. Thieves' Cant

    LV 2 Rogue 2

    LV 3 Rogue 3(Scout) Nauture Surivial Expertise Nauture Surivial

    LV 4 Cleric 1(Knowledge) Draconic, Giant. Arcane Religion Expertise Arcane History

    LV 5 Bard 1 Perception Bagpipes

    LV 6 Bard 2 Half proficiency in every skill

    LV 7 Bard 3 Sleight of hand, Stealth, Insight Expertise Sleight of hand Stealth

    LV 8 Artificer 1 Thinkers Tools

    LV 9 Artificer 2

    LV 10 Artificer 3(Armorer) Smith tools heavy armor

    LV 11 Artificer 4 Skill Expert Medicine Expertise Medicen

    LV 12 Artificer 5

    LV 13 Artificer 6 Expertise in tools

    LV 14 Rogue 4 Prodigy Alchemist’s supplies, Intimidation, Gnomish Expertise Intimidation

    LV 15 Ranger 1 Expertise Perception Undercommon halfling

    LV 16 ranger 2

    LV 17 ranger 3(fey wounder)

    LV 18 ranger 4

    LV 19 Rogue 5

    LV 20 Rogue 6 Expertise Deception insight
    Last edited by Amdy_vill; 2021-03-06 at 07:51 PM.
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    Pixie in the Playground
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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    Add Ranger 1 for canny expertise.

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    Orc in the Playground
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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    Something interesting to consider:

    "Expertise with tools" is interesting, because it's not expertise, and, unlike expertise, doesn't include the standard language stipulating that it can't be applied to a proficiency already benefiting from an Expertise-like ability.

    Theoretically, you could take your six levels of Artificer, and then take, say, three levels of Rune Knight for the Fire Rune, thereby achieving triple your proficiency bonus with tools. Add in a Guild sponsor, and you could bump that up to four times the bonus when using the guild's facilities.

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    Dwarf in the Playground
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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    Another two expertise at Rogue 6 ?

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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    So if I have counted correctly I need 7 more expertise to have expertise in everything. is it possible? maby scrap the fighter for others?
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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    Just realized I don't need skilled if I choose a background. so I there any way to get 6 more expertise. or just any more?
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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    BlueWizardGirl

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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    rogue 1/ ranger 1 gets you 6 skills, and 1 tool. starting high elf with the Tasha's options gets you 1 more skill, 4 more tools, and an extra language.
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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    MonkGirl

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    Default Re: Proficiency Monkey(Stronger then the Skill monkey)

    All skills is pretty easy...

    V. Human -> Skilled = 4
    Background = 2
    Rogue (scout) 3 = 6
    Bard (lore) 3 = 4
    Cleric (knowledge) 1 = 2

    if UA is on the table we could get there even faster with Mystic or UA-exclusive Warlock Invocations

    Tools and Languages are just a matter of time and money so I'll ignore

    Armor proficiency can come from a variety of sources, but since you wanted Artificer anyways, pick it up from Armorer

    Expertise... you can get 4 from Rogue, 4 from Bard... 2 from Knowledge cleric... 2 from Scout... 2 from Feats... Purple Dragon Knight can give you one more... As can a level of Ranger (though you are wasting some skills off of my build above that way, and you are running out of levels). Off the top of my head I don't think you can get to all 18 though.

    End Build Would Be something like...
    Race: Any (any proficiency you get here would be a waste)
    Rogue (scout) 6/Bard (lore) 10/Cleric (knowledge) 1/Ranger 1/(Bard +2?)
    Feats: Prodigy, Skill Expert

    Proficiency in all skills; Expertise in 15/18 Skills
    Last edited by Naanomi; 2020-11-26 at 09:30 PM.

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