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DND Canon Collection
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So I started a thread early about people's current thoughts on dnd's cannon. after a conversation with PhoenixPhyre and some digging, I realized that the current cannon need to be pin down to some extent before said conversation can really be had. the point is not to argue about if the canon is a good thing it just to bring together things and figure out what is canon. through official statements and such. The first and easiest thing to nail down is Forgotten realms. Ed Greenwood's contract makes everything he says canon and everything other WotC publishers makes canon. So the makes all of this canon without changes.
Spoiler: Deffently canon no changes
Spoiler: Ed Greenwoods contributions
Spellfire (1988)
Crown of Fire (1994)
Hand of Fire (2002)
Elminster: The Making of a Mage (1994)
Elminster in Myth Drannor (1997)
The Temptation of Elminster (1998)
Elminster in Hell (2001)
Elminster's Daughter (2004)
Shadows of Doom (1995)
Cloak of Shadows (1995)
All Shadows Fled (1995)
Cormyr: A Novel (1996)
Death of the Dragon (2000)
Crown of Fire (1994)
Stormlight (1996)
The Mercenaries (1998)
The Diamond (1998)
"The Burning Chalice", a short story in The Halls of Stormweather (2000)
Swords of Eveningstar (2006)
Swords of Dragonfire (August 2007)
The Sword Never Sleeps (November 2008)
Elminster Must Die (August 2010)
Bury Elminster Deep (August 2011)
Elminster Enraged (August 2012)
The Herald (2014)
Death Masks (June 2016)
Silverfall: Stories of the Seven Sisters (1999)
The City of Splendors: A Waterdeep Novel, with Elaine Cunningham (2005)
The Annotated Elminster (November 2007)
Spellstorm (novel) (2015)
"One Comes Unheralded, to Zirta" - originally written in 1967, published in The Best of the Realms II (2005)
"Elminster at the Mage Fair" - Realms of Valor (1993)
"So High A Price" - Realms of Infamy (1994)
"The Eye of the Dragon" - Realms of Magic (1995)
"A Slow Day In Skullport" - Realms of the Underdark (1996)
"The Whispering Crown" - Realms of the Arcane (1997)
"The Place Where Guards Snore at their Posts" - Realms of the Deep (2000)
"When Shadows Come Seeking A Throne" - Realms of Shadow (2002)
"Lord of the Darkways" - Untold Adventures (June 2011)
The Bloodstone Wars (July 1987)
Shadowdale (adventure) (June 1989)
Tantras (adventure) (August 1989)
Waterdeep (adventure) (August 1989)
Halls of the High King (January 1991)
Haunted Halls of Eveningstar (June 1992)
Expedition to Undermountain (June 2007)
Forgotten Realms Campaign Set (1987)
City System (1988)
The Ruins of Undermountain (1991)
Menzoberranzan (boxed set) (December 1992)
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 2nd edition (1993)
The Ruins of Myth Drannor (March 1993)
City of Splendors (boxed set) (July 1994)
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 2nd edition (revised) (1996)
Lords of Darkness (1988)
Waterdeep and the North (March 1988)
The Magister (June 1988)
Hall of Heroes (April 1989)
Forgotten Realms Adventures (1990)
Dwarves Deep (January 1991)
The Drow of the Underdark (July 1991)
Anauroch (sourcebook) (December 1991)
Volo's Guide to Waterdeep (January 1993)
The Code of the Harpers (September 1993)
Volo's Guide to the North (December 1993)
Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast (October 1994)
The Seven Sisters (May 1995)
Volo's Guide to Cormyr (July 1995)
Pages from the Mages (November 1995)
Volo's Guide to the Dalelands (January 1996)
Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (October 1996)
Prayers from the Faithful (December 1997)
The City of Ravens Bluff (November 1998)
Secrets of the Magister (January 2000)
Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II (July 200)
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting 3rd edition (June 2001)
Silver Marches (sourcebook) (July 2002)
Serpent Kingdoms (July 2004)
Power of Faerûn (March 2006)
The Grand History of the Realms (September 2007)
Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide (August 2008)
Ed Greenwood Presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms (October 2012)
"The Haunted Bridge", Dragon magazine 307 (May 2003)
Secrets of the Sages (Summer 1988)
Critical role as seen in Baldur’s Gate: Descent Into Avernus(2019)
Spoiler: Definitely canon with changes
Spoiler: 5e rule books
Player's Handbook(2014)
Monster Manual(2014)
Dungeon Master's Guide(2014)
Volo's Guide to Monsters(2016)
Xanathar's Guide to Everything(2017)
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes(2018)
Tasha's Cauldron of Everything(2020)
Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide(2015)
Eberron: Rising from the Last War(2019)
Spoiler: Possably canon
Explorer guide to Wildemount(2020)
Acquisitions Incorporated book(2019)
Critical Role Games(2015)
Acquisitions Incorporated Games(2008)
Spoiler: Definitely not Canon
Lord of the Necropolis(1997)
The Enemy Within(1994)
Desmond LaRouche from Ravenloft Monstrous Compendium Appendix II(1993)
The 2000s dnd movies(Dungeons & Dragons 2000, Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God 2005,Dungeons & Dragons: The Book of Vile Darkness 2012)
Spoiler: Unknown
Mythic Odysseys of Theros(2020)
Guildmasters' Guide to Ravnica(2018)
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Lord of the Necropolis(1997)
The Enemy Within(1994)
Desmond LaRouche from Ravenloft Monstrous Compendium Appendix II(1993)
have all been declared non-canon in the past.
I got this from mistpeida best sorcruce I got. they have an extensive categorization of things canonicity and there is an article somewhere about each type going to dig for them no.
http://fraternityofshadows.com/wiki/...of_Canon#CanonLast edited by Amdy_vill; 2020-11-27 at 08:04 PM.
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Then I suppose you can add Critical Role to the canon.
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this is actually a great question. should we count rule books from community figures as canon. I am inclined to say yes. but I will place them in possible canon and hope for a greater conversation on the topic. i will do the same for acquisition incorporated.
I will put the books in definite canon with changes and the games in possible canon.Last edited by Amdy_vill; 2020-11-27 at 08:07 PM.
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we should drop all 5e books with IP owned by WotC into the deffently canon with some changes sections. right. pbh, dmg, so on. excluding things like plane shift for now.
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I'm confused, why is Exandria (critical role's world) canon but not Ravnica? Both have official books from wotc
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the reason is they currently have no connection we know of to canon. the diablo dnd books aren't canon so until WotC calls them out as canon it's more appropriate to place them where they are. if we can dig up canon novels or a WotC statement that makes mtg canon to dnd we will more them. you do bring up a good point thou. we should probably move the other two.
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Tasha is from gray hawk right. So is mordakien, bigby, Tenser, ect. What about Ebrron. I feel there is no point in trying to lock down cannon for D&D because they pull from do many different worlds, settings, and books.
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a tweet from mike confirms that the 2000 movies are not canon to dnd.
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Tasha's Cauldron of Everything essentially confirms that the concept of "Canon" is a category error when applied to D&D.
Canon, is only relevant when a singular view is Orthodoxy, and all other views are Heterodoxy.
TCoE explicitly states:
10. HAVE FUN
You don't need to know every rule to enjoy D&D, and each group has its own style different ways it likes to tell stories and to use the rules. Embrace what your group enjoys most. In short, follow your bliss!
The Material Plane holds an infinite number of worlds. Some like Oerth,Toril,Krynn,and Eberron are well documented, but there are countless others. You and your friends may even have created some homemade D&D worlds yourselves!
D&D 'Canon Law' as it currently stands can be summarized as:
"A D&D group can change any mechanical rule or campaign setting detail that they wish to alter. There are an infinite number of worlds in the D&D Multiverse, and all are valid and sound D&D creations"
WOTC's current philosophy is diametrically opposed to the idea of Canon.Last edited by Thunderous Mojo; 2020-11-28 at 11:00 AM.
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