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2020-12-04, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-12-04, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Ooooh, I can't wait.
Team Evil is just going to pass through the trap and end up in a completely different place than the heroes, aren't they?
Also confirmation that Monster Hollow replenishes monsters in some magical way.
EDIT: Hey, maybe that's it, the "traps" aren't traps at all but a way to lure monsters from some other plane? Apologies if anyone already proposed that, I didn't really keep up with the latest discussion threads.Last edited by Fyraltari; 2020-12-04 at 08:19 AM.
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2020-12-04, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Trouble Approaching!
In which Redcloak jumps to the correct conclusion without exhausting every conceivable and inconceivable possibility!
The traps may also have something to do with monster regeneration, as well as maybe going someplace completely different.Last edited by WindStruck; 2020-12-04 at 08:21 AM.
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2020-12-04, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Weakened by the monsters, as predicted! XD
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2020-12-04, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Oh, Xykon. You are horrible.
Also I think Xykon might be having actual fun here. It turns out Kraagor’s tomb, an infinitely regenerating dungeon, has been his true hope ever sinceSpoiler: SODhe lost the joy of coffee.
I wonder if they could just leave him here and stop worrying.
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2020-12-04, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I can understand why Blackwing is the most fun to write.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2020-12-04, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
And thus Xykon gave up his unlife of villainy to became an adventurer - and the world was saved/doomed.
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2020-12-04, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Greview has the best life advice, as always.
So Team Evil's dungeon trip has worked as expected: they encountered monsters, but are mostly ignoring that fact. Even Redcloak is talking about "mistake", and doesn't seem to suspect a wide-ranging problem. Xykon and Oona are happy to ignore it altogether.Last edited by Saint-Just; 2020-12-04 at 08:32 AM.
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2020-12-04, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Not even that, I wager. They're not even going to see the heroes when they throw open the door, Xykon will make some comment about tipping the heroes off on it, and the good guys are going to realize what's going on.
Elan was right a few comics ago, this is way too early for the climactic battle, too many other plots in the air.
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2020-12-04, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-04, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I have had several players who are as dramatic as Blackwing. Not sure if Rich was trying to make that point, but it absolutely fit.
Also, how long as Team Evil been going through doors? Oona suggests that it has been shorter than several months, and I have lost all sense of time in this comic!
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2020-12-04, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I guess, this comic is proof enough that Blackwing can still communicate with the party, despite being away from V. And on the 'wrong' side of the door.
So, wherever this door and the trap leads, it's not a different plane.
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2020-12-04, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Three days ago, it was about a week since the pyramid exploded.
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2020-12-04, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Silly Redcloak, thinking is for lame losers, now follow Xykon into the next den of monsters
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2020-12-04, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-04, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I am glad to see Xykon is having the time of his death dungeonnering.
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2020-12-04, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
The fact the Telepathic Bond is still working rules out any interplanar shenanigans at least.
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2020-12-04, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-04, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-04, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I would say that "the team" is part of the subset "people entering the dungeon".
and "Could" is such a vague noncomittal statement, you can apply it to everything. Technically, what we see also didn't rule out that people who enter the dungeon couldn't have their art style changed to be 3d renderings.
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2020-12-04, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I'm pretty certain that restoring the trap severed the link. Actually no. Rereading it that is possible but uncertain. I initially interpreted, "Hey! Uh, hey, everyone? No more joking around...", as Blackwing trying to tell them but being a bit weirded out by a lack of response. But I don't think that is clear, that could be something that is happening but the party could be acting off of Blackwings info in panel six. Just nobody explicitly acknowledges that Xykon and company are almost there. And Heroinism and Stoneskin have long enough durations that they don't need to worry about them running out before the fight.
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2020-12-04, 09:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Hmm. It would be meaningless - indeed, harmful - to cast buffing spells if one were not expecting at least a scuffle, but I fail to see what the Order gains by engaging at this point. I suppose they could buff in CASE of a scuffle, but still hope to avoid one. Even an ambush by the Order seems unlikely to accomplish much for the Order. At best they could incapacitate Redcloak (killing him works against them) or kill Oona/Greyview...and either might rely on the MitD choosing now to step in and help the good guys. IF that were to happen, they might stand a chance against Xykon...but then even if they manage that, I would think it would be all the more difficult to sway Redcloak.
Granted, I've had five minutes or so thinking this all through, which is more time than they've had, so they've probably not considered all the possible outcomes (if anyone, V and/or Roy.) From my current perspective, it seems to me the Order is playing a strange game when the only winning move seems to be to not play at all.
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2020-12-04, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Isn't it also possible (from Redcloak's perspective) that some of the passages are connected? That TE missed a hidden door that connects them?
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2020-12-04, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Xykon's a bit more childish than usual IMO.
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2020-12-04, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
"The dog knows what's up"
I've never had respect for Xykon before, but my estimation has gone up with his demonstration of a proper respect for the wisdom of Greyview!
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2020-12-04, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
I don't necessarily read it that way. Not impossible, but I read Roy's order to cast medium term buffs as a reaction to Blackwing's report, since he didn't say how far away Team Evil was, just that they were headed in the the Order's direction.
I see it as Roy mainly being prepared if Team Evil sees through the bluff about which door they went in. Even if the Order retreats, they'll need buffs to survive long enough to do it.
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2020-12-04, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1221 - The Discussion Thread
Great to see the Order strategizing. Love Elan and Haley's moment.
Good (bad?) to see Redcloak thinking his way out as well, and I like his and Oona's casual conversation.
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2020-12-04, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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