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    What's your take on when a person eats no junk food at all not even in moderation?
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    Good on them for healthy eating.
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    Yeah, I'm not sure why you would expect negative responses to this question. I'm not sure how this would be a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure why you would expect negative responses to this question. I'm not sure how this would be a bad thing.
    You're right. But I'm sure there are a few people who might have a bad opinion about this question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    You're right. But I'm sure there are a few people who might have a bad opinion about this question.
    ... And? I'm not really sure what kind of answers you're looking for here.
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    ... And? I'm not really sure what kind of answers you're looking for here.
    I just want to hear your thoughts on it but I feel like it i already got my answer.
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    Since I'm already as close to this as I can get given the lack of options for eating out, it's eminently doable and more people should do so. Especially the ones who get winded climbing the steps to the front porch.

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    How are we defining junk food here? There are a lot of "junk foods" that are quite healthy when homemade, for instance, and health foods that have extremely high calorie content (compare popcorn to brown rice and it quickly becomes apparent that cultural food categories are bunkum.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvtyrant View Post
    How are we defining junk food here? There are a lot of "junk foods" that are quite healthy when homemade, for instance, and health foods that have extremely high calorie content (compare popcorn to brown rice and it quickly becomes apparent that cultural food categories are bunkum.)
    You know, candies, food with a lot of greases such as hamburgers and French fries, Potato chips, etc.
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    Whatever floats their boat.
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    If for dietary restriction regarding health; pity

    If for demonstration of self grandeur; contempt
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    Quote Originally Posted by cZak View Post
    If for dietary restriction regarding health; pity

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    Well, there's the negative opinion you wanted.

    For my part, a person's diet is completely irrelevant to me. As such, I have no stronger opinions on people who don't eat junk food than I do people who trim the nails on their left hand before the right.
    If I were forced to provide an opinion on their diet, it would depend on their reason. If it's because they think any amount of junk food is too much, then my opinion could best be expressed by rolling my eyes. However, if it's just because they don't like junk food, or they feel that one bowl of chips has a tendency to become two bowls of chips all to quickly, then fair enough.
    That's all I can think of, at any rate.

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    I can see some people responding negatively, but probably only if the person avoiding junk food is being superior about it OR the offended person perceives the healthy person as acting superior about it.
    Or, like if it's a friend you hang out with, maybe it annoys you that they don't want to swing by a fast food joint for a snack.

    E.g., any negativity is probably a defensiveness about feeling insulted by how they are eating junk food.

    Though I reckon some people will think they are being too big on depriving themselves of happy food or being too hard on themselves. So that's a more reasonable source of a negative response. E.g., my mom sometimes said I was depriving myself unnecessarily of some stuff I was doing to be <positive trait>. Not junk food, but similar enough idea.

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    Though, in general, I don't see folk reasonably responding negatively to such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    You know, candies, food with a lot of greases such as hamburgers and French fries, Potato chips, etc.
    You can actually prepare those things without a lot of grease.

    I use very lean meat for hamburger, and you can 'air fry' potato. Granted, it's more like speedy convection baking, but the effect is similar. Crispy.
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    And no oily aftertaste, which is something you really start noticing if you go off fries for a bit (say for Lent).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    You can actually prepare those things without a lot of grease.

    I use very lean meat for hamburger, and you can 'air fry' potato. Granted, it's more like speedy convection baking, but the effect is similar. Crispy.
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    And no oily aftertaste, which is something you really start noticing if you go off fries for a bit (say for Lent).
    Wait these types of food exists. Wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Wait these types of food exists. Wow!
    We recently got an air fryer that's only a bit bigger than a toaster oven. It's pretty cool. You can use it for air frying, but it also has a 'toast', 'bake', and other settings, so presumably it could replace having a toaster oven/toaster. I haven't really used it for any of the others beyond air fry, but the air fry alone is pretty great for stuff like cooking french fries (or frozen foods you want to cook crispy) or reheating leftovers like fried chicken.

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    If they are obsessed with only eating certain foods to the point that it is interfering with other aspects of their life (ability to work, travel, socialize) then it could be a problem.

    I've heard this referred to as orthorexia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecrusher Doc View Post
    If they are obsessed with only eating certain foods to the point that it is interfering with other aspects of their life (ability to work, travel, socialize) then it could be a problem.

    I've heard this referred to as orthorexia.
    I don't think that quite follows. Orthorexia is usually used to refer to people who hurt themselves by eating diets so narrow they don't get proper nutrition. Vegans who become protein deficient, keto/fasting people who get refeeding syndrome or kidney damage, the 90s fat free diet leading to collapsed hormone levels.

    Otherwise any dieters with jealous families would become orthorexic instantly, which I feel like really undermines the term.
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    Eating healthily is ideal, but I don't think we know yet exactly what that is.

    Some fat in the diet is necessary for humans, too much is probably bad.

    My weight has been slowly rising and I'd like it to stop, and preferably go down, but it's hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    Eating healthily is ideal, but I don't think we know yet exactly what that is.

    Some fat in the diet is necessary for humans, too much is probably bad.

    My weight has been slowly rising and I'd like it to stop, and preferably go down, but it's hard.
    I can't get below 250 without being obsessive. Last time I did it I did it by fasting a lot, now I count calories really hard. I don't know of any easy ways to lose weight except the 80-20 rule. If something is lower calories but 80% as good tasting switch them out. I switched milk for almond milk, microwave popcorn into air popped corn, red meat for white meat.

    1/20/2021
    3 miles walking 400 calories
    2 miles riding bike 200 calories
    weightlifting 100 calories
    Base 2500 calories
    3200 to spend
    Breakfast:
    Coffee 1 cup almond milk 30 calories
    6 slices gluten free bread 480
    2 cups egg whites 250
    760

    lunch
    2 chicken breast 462
    1 can green beans 45
    coffee 1 cup almond milk 30
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    dinner
    Chicken breast 231 calories
    chicken thigh with some sauce my dad made 400 calories?
    1 cup rice 206 calories
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    snacks:
    3 Apple 156 calories
    bananna 100
    carrot 25 calories
    20 cups popcorn 400 calories
    681

    2815 eaten, 385 deficit
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    I don't know how anyone can eat 2000 calories, it seems insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tvtyrant View Post
    I don't know how anyone can eat 2000 calories, it seems insane.
    It depends on your build and activity level.

    A short, thin person, mostly sedentary with not much muscle mass - 2000 Calories is fairly easy to stick to.

    I calories counted for a while while I was injured (probably about 8 weeks worth of data) and my resting metabolic rate was around 2000 - 2100 Calories. While I didn't do as much cardio as you, I did do martial arts, so being active and strong gave me more muscle mass, raising my BMR.

    Unfortunately between Covid and work, my weight's ballooned up from 14st to over 16st (about 224lb/102kg), which is depressing.

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    It is perfectly doable - but I indulge sometimes. Pizza is my main vice, sweets second.

    When I feel like losing some weight, I just lose the added sugar (e.g. no sugar in tea, no sweet drinks, sweets), stop with junk food completely, follow the old principle of 'breakfast of a king, lunch of a farmer, dinner of a beggar", go to bed at 10 PM sharp and leave half.

    The last part basically means I eat exactly half a portion. I immensely enjoy eating, so I do not stop myself from rnjoying food - I just chew longer, smaller mouthfuls and basically trick myself into thinking I ate a lot.

    I also share a lot - giving half a portion to colleagues that are out to lunch with me (before starting to eat).

    At these points I go for quality instead of quantity. And eat a piece of dark chocolate once per day as 'reward' when I uphold all the rules, which works as nice conditioning tool.
    Works miracles for me, last time I dropped my terrible results from checkup into normal in 3 months.

    I may have to do it again as I started gaining weight again. I even got above 100kg. Something I told myself I never would.
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