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2020-12-06, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
I don't really see how Extraordinary Concentration is poorly written that much, though I did have to pause for a sec while reading it. There's a skill trick that could work, also - Swift Concentration.
Honestly I doubt Rich really knows about either but for the purposes of this thread...Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2020-12-06, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Besides the concentration, sustained telekinesis only works for 1 object. There is no mention of switching objects. (Only the violent thrust allows multiple objects to be affected.) Also, for perfect comparison we need a spell at allows directing an active spell, like animate rope allows.
What could help was a list of spells cast in the comic, does anyone have a list? I vaguely recall something on this forum, but I can't find it.Last edited by Yanisa; 2020-12-06 at 09:24 AM.
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2020-12-06, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
The problem with Extraordinary Concentration it seems intended to allow multiple spells to be cast, however:
Originally Posted by SRD
The reason you cannot cast spells while concentrating on one has nothing to do with the standard action of maintaining a spell - as such in the written word of Extraordinary Concentration it doesn't actually allow you to cast spells while concentrating on another one - it is clearly intended to (Swift Concentration does not seem to be) but it actually doesn't do it (at my reading of them).
I am unsure about this the spell mentions 'You move objects or creatures by concentrating on them' so if you concentrate on a different object it stands to reason you can move that one, just like you would (on my reading) not be limited to tripping the same creature every round using the combat maneuver version.
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2020-12-06, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
I mean okay, maybe, but that still does work for this situation, as does the skill trick option.
Also random thought: aren't there optional spell components that give a caster bonus to certain kinds of spells? Maybe Tsukiko used one that applies for Conjuration(teleportation) spells or something?Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2020-12-06, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
i was just reading the page for lich and it states that
"Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat""unspecified craft feat" ?Last edited by locksmith of lo; 2020-12-06 at 02:42 PM.
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2020-12-06, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Spoiler: SOD
While purely on RAW Xykon should have Craft Wonderous Item, it seems to have been actually Redcloak who crafted it this is why Redcloak is listed as having 'Craft Wondrous Item (Xykon's phylactery in SOD)'.
I am dubious about it a ruling but not bothered enough to argue it.
Seperately we know Xykon crafts items on occassion so he has some craft feat.
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2020-12-07, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Also, would Mage Hand work for either of those instances?
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2020-12-07, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Mage Hand has a weight limit of 5 pounds. Open/Close has a limit of 30 pounds.
Problem is we don't know the exact material or weight from these objects. I assume stone* and wood** based on appearances, so the statue head would weight more then 5, and the door could be less then 30 pounds. So mage hand is out, but Open/Close could work.
*The statue head is quite bouncy for a solid stone object.
**We know the stone around the door is "multidimensional stone", perhaps something similar is used for the door, but of a woodlike material.
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2020-12-07, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Huh, I wonder what's stopping Xykon from just Ghostforming through the dungeons, actually. Something like at least half the Monster Manual can't even do anything to incorporeal creatures, even the mighty Tarrasque.
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2020-12-07, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
About what spell Xykon is using to lift the statue head in #1214 and the door in #1216, we've been discussing that on and off for like five pages in the previous thread. I don't think we got a consensus.
But I totally didn't notice back than that there was a specific level 0 sorcerer spell called Open/Close and suggested other spells instead. Yanisa: thank you for pointing that out.Last edited by b_jonas; 2020-12-07 at 09:10 AM.
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2020-12-07, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
""Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat" is pretty explicit. Redcloak clearly helped - perhaps lowering the DC, or issuing instructions on which steps to take - but by the rules, Xykon had to have the Craft Wondrous Item feat, and had to be involved enough in the process to be considered to be "making" his phylactery.
I think we should list Craft Wondrous Item as a feat Xykon has. There is no clear evidence that the rules weren't being followed in this instance, and thus we should assume they were in effect. Plus, common sense suggests that Xykon has the feat, given how much time he spends crafting magic items.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
I believe you can provide spells and stuff to aid with crafting items, such as the cleric helping the party wizard to craft a Ring of Protection +1(as Shield of Faith isn't a wizard spell). Could be something like that - Redcloak fills Xykon in on the required knowledge, Xykon does the actual crafting.
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2020-12-09, 01:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Thing is, while the SRD is kinda vague, it does require Caster Level 3 to craft a wonderous item. And Xykon was unable to cast even a cantrip at the time (it was *why* RC proposed making him a lich).
I'm pretty sure that by RAI, at least, you should not be able to craft if your spellcasting is suppressed.
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2020-12-09, 01:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Having a caster level is not the same as being able to cast spells to be fair. If you’ve blown all your slots you have a caster level but can’t cast.
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2020-12-09, 03:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Yeah, this. Xykon didn't cease to be a sorcerer with caster level 25, or whatever - he simply stopped being able to cast any spells.
The SRD is about as explicit as can be when it says "Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat." Either the rules are being ignored - which this thread assumes is not the case whenever possible - or Xykon is making use of his Craft Wondrous Item feat to craft his own phylactery, with Redcloak helping him, presumably both giving him instructions and providing spellcasting services when necessary.
There's definitely some RAI fuzziness here, since nowhere in the rules does it say that a lich can receive help from an outside source, but none of that requires us to assume that the rules aren't actually in effect.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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2020-12-09, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Some magic items require you to expend spell slots or prepared spells every day while making them. But a phylactery does not appear to be one of these:
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItem...MagicItems.htm
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lich.htmLast edited by hamishspence; 2020-12-09 at 04:57 AM.
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2020-12-09, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
I don't think it's actually possible to cooperatively craft a lich's phylactery. The MIC rules for cooperative crafting say that each character involved has to supply "some of the prerequisites". But a phylactery only has one prerequisite, Craft Wondrous Item. Thus, if the rules are being followed in SoD, Redcloak is simply providing information and instructions to Xykon, but isn't actually participating in the crafting of the phylactery. Unless there are other rules elsewhere about cooperative item crafting that disagree with and supersede those in the MIC, Craft Wondrous Item should be added to Xykon's entry and removed from Redcloak's.
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2020-12-09, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Really the CWI requirement is just a hack to explain how a lich has a phylactery. To the best of my knowledge no ruleset before or after spelled out the needs, just said a lich had one.
That said, I don't see a reason not to strip CWI from Redcloak.
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2020-12-09, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
I was checking the thread and I noticed that the item that Belkar is using cover the team´s tracks hasnt been added to the list of items he is carrying. Is there a reason?
I am going to leave the real experts with telling the name of the item since my knowledge still remains pathfinder mainly.
EDIT: Also, should the rat head be added to Haley´s inventory?Last edited by DaOldeWolf; 2020-12-09 at 11:40 PM.
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2020-12-10, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-10, 11:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
Although, is it about to leave her inventory?
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
No, she specifically stated she's picking it back up.
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
But...
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lich.htm
Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat. The character must be able to cast spells...
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Was he? Honestly don’t know, don’t have SoD.
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2020-12-11, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's no direct evidence from SOD, but after reading the scroll use rules, it does appear that Xykon would still be able to use scrolls.
I think we're getting a bit too nitpicky, though, and although being too nitpicky is arguably the entire purpose of this thread, in this case I don't think it would serve the purpose of nailing down character info very well, since the way Xykon and Redcloak collaborated on making the former a lich was obviously houseruled and probably wouldn't stand up to strict scrutiny. I think we should just stick with listing the basic requirements that lichdom requires of Xykon and leave it at that.Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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2020-12-13, 06:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVIII - Everyone's an Expert
(Just wondering: why doesn't Veldrina have an entry yet? We know her sex (female), race (elf), class (favored soul), level (14+ to be capable of casting 7th level spells), her Cha score (17+ to be capable of casting 7th level spells), we have a list of earthly possessions (armour, boots, holy symbol, scroll of Wind Walk), we know she has ranks in Knowledge (religion) (to know as much about vampires as she does (v. negative particle vawe interference etc.)) and we know she knows Sending.)
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2020-12-13, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Good question actually. Maybe because she’s considered too minor a character?
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