Place your bets: Who will destroy the last gate?

[Emanick]

As I think it through, that's a neat idea but I was under the impression that V is simply moved down into the appropriate lower plane for a bit until the time is up on that member's alloted minutes. But Rich doesn't have to feel bound by that, and this is plausible.

My other reaction is "Hasn't V already done a world-wide awful thing?" Yes, yes V did. I do not expect to see that replicated with the gate that ends the whole world ... but never say never.

I agree with your first reaction - it's an interesting idea, but seems unlikely for the reason you point out - but this wouldn't really be V doing a world-wide awful thing, because V would have no say in the matter. Unlike Familicide, there would be no moral culpability (or there would, but it would merely further underscore the significance of something V did three books earlier, rather than reflecting V's current moral agency). I think that's pretty different.

[Yanisa]

I'm putting my vote on Sir Thumb. I am currently working on a out-there-theory and I strongly suspect he had an hand in every gate destruction so far.

[Emanick]

I'm putting my vote on Sir Thump. I am currently working on a out-there-theory and I strongly suspect he had an hand in every gate destruction so far.

Sorry, your link took me to a seemingly unrelated page. Do you mean this lil guy?

I am 97% sure he had nothing to do with it all!

[KorvinStarmast]

I'm putting my vote on Sir Thump.

That would be Sir Thumb, and I think that's when Rich had his injury, hence Sir Thumb is Rich.

I am currently working on a out-there-theory and I strongly suspect he had an hand in every gate destruction so far.

Of course he did. Rich is the author of the strip, the ultimate cause of all and sundry. (By the way, nice pun "had a hand in" )

[The4bestgame]

Put me down for "IFCC tricks the gods into destroying it."

[Ron Miel]

Sorry, your link took me to a seemingly unrelated page.

Look at the second to last panel. Sir Thumb battles the glass monsters.

[GravityEmblem]

Look at the second to last panel. Sir Thumb battles the glass monsters.

Sarcastic pointing out that you missed the sarcasm about the misspelling

[Emanick]

Look at the second to last panel. Sir Thumb battles the glass monsters.

Right, but where's Sir Thump? I don't see him anywhere in the comic!

[WanderingMist]

My bet's on no one, and it will remain intact. There's all this talk about getting The Dark One to ally with the current gods but have any of them ever attempted communicating with the Snarl itself?

[Precure]

Greyview: Existence is pain *bites the gate*

KABOOOOM!!!

Relevant, I believe.

[Metastachydium]

If the Gate is getting destroyed (which I doubt will happen), the work shall be done by a treant. They did it before, they can do it again.

[Brumagris]

I like to take risks and I bet for Miko Miyazaki.

She's done it before.

Now this is a style I like, a lot.


My vote goes for Blackwing. That would be the ideal canvas for his (or her?) melodramatic ego to reach its full potential. Plus, the gate may as well be inside a shiny bauble again.

[Riftwolf]

If we're going spitball theories, I'm gonna say Redcloak. Turns out the ritual doesn't actually work and he sends an aperture to God-killer McTentacles to the Dark One, wiping out the entire goblin afterlife.
And before you ask, yes, I'm OK hun, just having a bad day.

[Peelee]

3) The IFCC. Their scheme seems related to destroying the World.

I'm not so sure about that, actually. I think, if anything, they'd want to save it.

ETA: I also think Scooter and Kermit are definitely not up to no good.

[littlebum2002]

You need to start tracking all the people who say "It doesn't get destroyed". That's my vote

[Bongos]

Gonna go with Belkar on this one.

[Sniper Jo]

If the gate goes up, it seems like the gods have already agreed to pull the plug, which would preclude any further shenanigans. If shenanigans happen, they'll happen regardless of the final gate's status.

I don't think they CAN, though. The Godsmoot vote can't be finalised until the Dwarves make a new table, the gods who have voted can't change their votes because of no backsies, and they presumably can't hold another vote until the current one ends.

[Peelee]

I don't think they CAN, though. The Godsmoot vote can't be finalised until the Dwarves make a new table, the gods who have voted can't change their votes because of no backsies, and they presumably can't hold another vote until the current one ends.

The Godsmoot question seems to concern blowing the world before the last gate goes. No gate? And boom goes the dynamite.

[InvisibleBison]

The Godsmoot question seems to concern blowing the world before the last gate goes. No gate? And boom goes the dynamite.

I'm not so sure about that. Loki says there would be time to destroy the world between the destruction of the last Gate and the Snarl getting loose "if [the gods] all agree on that course of action". Since they didn't come to an agreement to do that, I don't think they will be able to destroy the world before the Snarl gets loose and does it for them.

[Metastachydium]

I'm not so sure about that. Loki says there would be time to destroy the world between the destruction of the last Gate and the Snarl getting loose "if [the gods] all agree on that course of action". Since they didn't come to an agreement to do that, I don't think they will be able to destroy the world before the Snarl gets loose and does it for them.

I've been saying that a lot a while ago, and you people called me MAD! (The fact that I used it as an argument for why the Plan is a viable plan might have been part of the reason why, but still.)

[Emanick]

I'm not so sure about that. Loki says there would be time to destroy the world between the destruction of the last Gate and the Snarl getting loose "if [the gods] all agree on that course of action". Since they didn't come to an agreement to do that, I don't think they will be able to destroy the world before the Snarl gets loose and does it for them.

I've seen it suggested before that the gods probably have a standing agreement to destroy the world immediately if The Snarl breaks loose, and that that supersedes anything else. I agree with that theory. It's in all the gods' best interest to get Soul Power, after all.

[InvisibleBison]

I've seen it suggested before that the gods probably have a standing agreement to destroy the world immediately if The Snarl breaks loose, and that that supersedes anything else. I agree with that theory. It's in all the gods' best interest to get Soul Power, after all.

It would make sense, but I think Loki's quote that I linked to before contradicts that theory. If there already was such an agreement, why would the gods only be able to act on it if they again agreed to do so during the Godsmoot?

[Marsala]

I've seen it suggested before that the gods probably have a standing agreement to destroy the world immediately if The Snarl breaks loose, and that that supersedes anything else. I agree with that theory. It's in all the gods' best interest to get Soul Power, after all.

Even if they do have such an agreement, their current deadlock could make activating the emergency world destruction legally difficult and could delay it by enough to be too late (or possibly give the heroes just enough time to save the world after all).

[Crusher]

MitD gets my bet

[DreamCreator]

This just came to me. I have no attachment to it being true, but it flashed through my mind as a possibility after reading the OP and a few responses.

I think (as we get close this part where everyone is honing in on the last gate) Xykon and Redcloak will have a schism in which they end up dueling- Xykon with the intent to kill Redcloak because he is sick and tired of his silly plans for the goblins. Redcloak will be mortally wounded and either just barely escape through some plane shift maneuver, or someone, maybe the Order, will rescue him. At this point he may reconsider negotiations with Durkon to open a channel of communication between The Dark One and Thor - either because he sees they/Durkon really want to help, or because that ends up being the best option for still having his plans work for the good of all goblins.

[Goblin_Priest]

I don't expect the last gate to fall. It would kind of undermine the whole tension of "race to prevent the Fall of the last gate" if the last gate falling isn't a game-ender.

[Emanick]

It would make sense, but I think Loki's quote that I linked to before contradicts that theory. If there already was such an agreement, why would the gods only be able to act on it if they again agreed to do so during the Godsmoot?

I don't see why Loki's quote contradicts that theory. His whole point is that the gods can immediately destroy the world without a fuss in like 15 minutes, which presumably means that the high priests get no say in it and thus Godsmoots are irrelevant once the Snarl is loose.

[Peelee]

Loki says "if we all agree on that course of action today", not "if the majority decides on that course of action today". They could all agree that the world should be blown if the Snarl gets out regardless of the outcome of a simple-majority vote on whether to blow it upon completion of the vote.

[DreamCreator]

I don't expect the last gate to fall. It would kind of undermine the whole tension of "race to prevent the Fall of the last gate" if the last gate falling isn't a game-ender.

True, we also realize that things aren't exactly as they seem. The last gate being destroyed might lead to an entirely different scenario then the Order, or maybe any of the parties involved are aware of.

I also agree though that I have not expected the last gate to fall. And, I think this story is creative enough that we just might go there... but not in the way we think.

[InvisibleBison]

I don't see why Loki's quote contradicts that theory. His whole point is that the gods can immediately destroy the world without a fuss in like 15 minutes, which presumably means that the high priests get no say in it and thus Godsmoots are irrelevant once the Snarl is loose.

Loki's point is that the gods can destroy the world without a fuss if they agree to do so at the Godsmoot. My point is that the gods didn't agree to do so at the Godsmoot, and therefore they cannot destroy the world without a fuss.