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2020-12-19, 08:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-12-19, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Ah ha, so it does work like that!
Also Belkar's line at the end, just perfection.
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2020-12-19, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Welp, comic over they best the bad guys. A bit sooner than I expected, but it works
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2020-12-19, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
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There’s something oddly endearing about Xykon just standing there and singing to himself.Last edited by Yxylu; 2020-12-19 at 08:48 AM.
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2020-12-19, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
It is looking like yes, it’s a portal and OOTS has bypassed that
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2020-12-19, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Well.
I suppose that answers the question about what the trap is.Spoiler: Out-of-context quotes
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2020-12-19, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-19, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Just as expected... bwee hee hee..
It is interesting that the greatsword disappeared upon going back through the portal. Where did it go? Perhaps that’s where some key information is?A student by vocation, a D&Der by avocation (a wizard by evocation).
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2020-12-19, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-19, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Motherflipping called it. Now to just find proof of my conjecture, a tedious task on mobile...
But yeah, I’ve been sayin for weeks that I bet it teleports them to their own unique dungeon, and this kinda proves that. Also the transdimensionality is going to give the class&level crew a field day!
Not quite perfect as far as guesses go, but pretty close...Last edited by Wildstag; 2020-12-19 at 09:05 AM.
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2020-12-19, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
I haven't been following the discussion threads too closely, but I'd say this is definite confirmation that there's some kind of extraplanar weirdness going on with the tunnels.
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2020-12-19, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
I might need to frame that last panel and send it to a writer or two.
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2020-12-19, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
So does WONNNH sound like waving a light saber around?
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2020-12-19, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Can we state with sufficient certain that:
- if Redclock with True Seeing did not notice this magical trap, the trap should be epic?
- This made Haley having solved an epic-level trap, perhaps because she's super cool?
- if the sword has disappeared when moved backward, the hero might also walk in that direction and reach a hidden, dimensional place?
- redclock is going to figure out the deception and re-do calculations, this might increase frustration among team evil?
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2020-12-19, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
I'm guessing that the Order's the one in a portal or demiplane or whatnot.
Going out to fight them would probably foolish at best, so I'm guessing that the Order are going to get to the end of this dungeon and see what's happening. My bet's on that there's another line of defense that figures out whether it's a legitimate band of heroes(or Serini going in for maintenance maybe) or just a band of evil adventurers who just had a Rogue as well.
Calling it now; V's going to have the general idea but not know much more than "it's a portal"; as a specialist wizard they have a bit of a penalty to making Spellcraft checks related to conjurations.
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- No, True Seeing only works on illusions and transmutations. Portals would fall under conjuration effects, so it's probably not epic.
- See previous answer, though the DC probably is pretty high if Roy can't even see it.
- Nah, that's probably because of the portal effect or something.... Actually I dunno, but I doubt it.
- Oh, absolutely.
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2020-12-19, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Totally cracked up at the punchline!
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2020-12-19, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Best punchline ever!
The question is, are the order going to keep going forward possibly towards the gate?
Seems like it's too soon for them to reach the gate.
I don't think we'll get to see Roy finding the gate and just do nothing with it for ages until they resolve all the loose ends.
The question is, does this thing exist behind all the doors, or just this one?
Redcloak's line about having Dark One's Luck (Reference to the Warlock power?) made me think that maybe he doesn't, but Durkon got the luck of the divine intervention in picking the right door.
If the door doesn't matter and it's just the trap, then narratively speaking, the monster's trick of painting the doors doesn't really matter at all.
I still think that should come to play somehow the fact that he kept them away from some door.
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2020-12-19, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
I guess an advantage of never looking at the forums is that you don't get the 100's of theories. I did not see that coming.
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2020-12-19, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Remember: finding the Gate and squatting on it does nothing until Team Evil finally get lucky or whatnot. There's still plenty to do even if they find the Gate, such as looking for the paladins if the Voices haven't stashed them here.
The question is, does this thing exist behind all the doors, or just this one?
Redcloak's line about having Dark One's Luck (Reference to the Warlock power?) made me think that maybe he doesn't, but Durkon got the luck of the divine intervention in picking the right door.
If the door doesn't matter and it's just the trap, then narratively speaking, the monster's trick of painting the doors doesn't really matter at all.
I still think that should come to play somehow the fact that he kept them away from some door.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyup, half the forum's been suggesting that for weeks.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2020-12-19, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-12-19, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
If Redcloak were destroyed here, that leaves resolution of the Snarl as an awful loose end. The Dark One doesn't have any other high level clerics, does he?
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2020-12-19, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Everyone's saying "dimensional portal." Am I the only one who looks at this and says "instanced dungeon"?
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2020-12-19, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Yeah, that's the weirdest part of all of it. How do they see Xykon, Xykon doesn't see than, AND the sword disappears when going through it too? Where does the portal go this way round?
Even if they can't see the trap, shouldn't they notice the perfectly straight edge on half a scorch mark?Last edited by Reboot; 2020-12-19 at 09:37 AM.
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2020-12-19, 09:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
It's almost certainly NOT a reference to the Warlock class.
Warlock was not a core class in D&D 3.5e (which OOTS generally runs on), it was a fairly obscure splatbook class in 3e that somehow, inexplicably became a core class in 4e.
While "Dark One's Own Luck" is a Least Invocation for 3e Warlocks, I really doubt it's a reference to a minor power from an obscure class by a character who for the last 17 years has consistently been depicted as a high-level Cleric, not a Warlock.
It's almost certainly a reference to the fact that Redcloak's deity is actually named "The Dark One".
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2020-12-19, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
Still very unsure about one thing: is the portal activated when you trigger the trap, or when you bypass it?
Everybody seems to prefer the former; I'm still not sold.
The fact that there were light effects when the order passed the line makes me prefer the latter. But the same sound effect repeating with team evil passing the line weakens my position. I mean, I could see the portal still existing on the order's side after they passed it, and they get a sound effect when they see someone bypassing it, but it's a huge stretch.
OTH, we have to explain the fact that there is no light and sound effect when you trigger the trap and enter the dungeon "normally" as TE has been doing all along.
Not sure whether time will tell, these hypothesis are hard to distinguish.
I'm mostly surprised that Roy's sword passed the line into a space that was not visible to Xykon.
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2020-12-19, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
I relaly liked the way Roy went straight to "an avant-garde version of that thing where you don't remember who I am."
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2020-12-19, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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I really don’t know why I kept on telling myself that the theory probably wasn’t correct.
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Re: OOTS #1222 - The Discussion Thread
oh yeah! questions answered! speculations resolved!
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