Enderlord's Random Banter #230 (Friendly warning: Might teleport. Don't get wet.)

**enderlord99** · 2020-12-20, 04:55 PM (ISO 8601)

It's too bad there are so few friends still here. Friendly suggestion: let someone start threads #231+ after waiting for the turns of... say... a dozen friends? One dozen seems like a friendly number.

RANDOM BANTER #230

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**2D8HP** · 2020-12-20, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)

Nice new thread smell!

I hope folks are well!

(Among other stuff) 2020 is a year that I lost about 25 pounds without trying to, my waist size hasn't been this small since the '90's, which is weird.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

(Among other stuff) 2020 is a year that I lost about 25 pounds without trying to

In a good way?

**Fyraltari** · 2020-12-20, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)

Let's go with twelve. Twelve is a nice number.

**Anonymouswizard** · 2020-12-20, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)

I need to know: can I feedthe thread after midnight?

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Fyraltari

Let's go with twelve. Twelve is a nice number.

Aye, it would have been a good base. I blame evolution. Stupid five-fingered hands....

**Tvtyrant** · 2020-12-20, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

Nice new thread smell!

I hope folks are well!

(Among other stuff) 2020 is a year that I lost about 25 pounds without trying to, my waist size hasn't been this small since the '90's, which is weird.

It this good weight loss? Are congrats or worries in order?

**Fyraltari** · 2020-12-20, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

Aye, it would have been a good base. I blame evolution. Stupid five-fingered hands....

Use your thumb to count on your other fingers phalanx bones.

Like so.

**enderlord99** · 2020-12-20, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Anonymouswizard

I need to know: can I feedthe thread after midnight?

The thread eats whenever it wants to. Just keep the pile stocked with chorus fruit, and don't try to observe it's feasting. It's not very friendly to stare at it.

Getting it wet isn't dangerous, merely mean.

**Rawhide** · 2020-12-20, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)

So hey, If someone has played a lot of Dungeons and Dragons 3.x, but absolutely no 5e, what are some good 5e books, sets, or kits to get (beyond the core rulebooks)?

Starter kits, splatbooks, campaign settings, adventures, you name it. What are the best books to get started with in each category, and what are the best books that you wouldn't necessarily recommend starting with but would recommend looking forward to extending the experience?

**Anonymouswizard** · 2020-12-20, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)

5ehas books?

Xanathar's Guide to Everything and Tasha's Cauldron of Everything are where you'll find most of the extrs zfeats and Subclasses as well as some (hit or miss) subsystems. For the others I don't hae a clue, I don't own the monster books and was only interested in one setting book, and also don't personally buy modules or the like.

**2D8HP** · 2020-12-20, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

In a good way?

Originally Posted by Tvtyrant

It this good weight loss? Are congrats or worries in order?

No limbs were lost, the weight loss was among the reasons my "primary care physician" told me that there was an "80% chance you have lung cancer" (rescinded after a week), so far it's a mystery, I was fairly overweight after the '90's so probably a good thing.

Originally Posted by Rawhide

So hey, If someone has played a lot of Dungeons and Dragons 3.x, but absolutely no 5e, what are some good 5e books, sets, or kits to get (beyond the core rulebooks)?

Starter kits, splatbooks, campaign settings, adventures, you name it. What are the best books to get started with in each category, and what are the best books that you wouldn't necessarily recommend starting with but would recommend looking forward to extending the experience?

I made characters but never played much 3e, but I played a lot of 0e/1e, and I have played a little 5e and have some recommendations.

The Starter Set and its "Lost Mines of Phandelver" is excellent, and frankly it and the free online rules are all you need, of the "corebooks" The Player's Handbook has an excellent bibliography, The Dungeon Master's Guide is fun to read and has some good rules options inside, and The Monster Manual is easy to use and well illustrated.

Of WotC adventure modules I'd say Tomb of Annihilation, Saltmarsh, and Tales from the Vagabond Inn are best, but the Goodman games reprints/revisions for 5e of '70's/'80's adventure modules are as good or better and I highly recommend them staring with Into the Borderlands.

For "splat" there's Xanthar's, Tasha's, Volo"s and The Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, Xanthar's is probably the one you want but it's version of the "Swashbuckler" Rogue sub-class is very slightly weaker than than the same sub-class in the SCAG.

**Qwertystop** · 2020-12-20, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

No limbs were lost, the weight loss was among the reasons my "primary care physician" told me that there was an "80% chance you have lung cancer" (rescinded after a week), so far it's a mystery, I was fairly overweight after the '90's so probably a good thing.

Well, it's good you don't have lung cancer, then.

**Rater202** · 2020-12-20, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)

I believe I've mentioned this before, but sometimes I wake up wondering why I'm not a dragon.

I just want my wings to be a hurricane, is that so much to ask?

**DataNinja** · 2020-12-20, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Fyraltari

Let's go with twelve. Twelve is a nice number.

I agree that twelve is indeed a good number. I in no way went to look to see if that meant I could make another thread (which I am just able to do).

**Tvtyrant** · 2020-12-20, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

No limbs were lost, the weight loss was among the reasons my "primary care physician" told me that there was an "80% chance you have lung cancer" (rescinded after a week), so far it's a mystery, I was fairly overweight after the '90's so probably a good thing.

A bit worrying, but hopefully it is a good event then.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by DataNinja

I agree that twelve is indeed a good number. I in no way went to look to see if that meant I could make another thread (which I am just able to do).

What will the lighting be like?

**Bartmanhomer** · 2020-12-20, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)

I can't wait for Christmas. I'm going to watch Christmas movies all day on Christmas.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer

I can't wait for Christmas. I'm going to watch Christmas movies all day on Christmas.

Oh, like In Bruges, or First Blood, or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, The Nice Guys, The Last Boy Scout, Lethal Weapon, Last Action Hero, really anything by Shane Black, or maybe Rocky? Rocky is kind really more of a holiday movie in general, though, since it also nets Thanksgiving and New Year's.

**Bartmanhomer** · 2020-12-20, 07:53 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

Oh, like In Bruges, or First Blood, or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, The Nice Guys, The Last Boy Scout, Lethal Weapon, Last Action Hero, really anything by Shane Black, or maybe Rocky? Rocky is kind really more of a holiday movie in general, though, since it also nets Thanksgiving and New Year's.

Actually more like family movies but hey I'll add these action movies to my Christmas movies list.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 08:02 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer

Actually more like family movies but hey I'll add these action movies to my Christmas movies list.

Actually, I wouldn't really call any of them action movies. Most Shane Black movies are closer to buddy-cop or crime-comedy, First Blood I'd call a thriller, Rocky is a character study or a drama, and In Bruges is a super dark comedy.

**Bartmanhomer** · 2020-12-20, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

Actually, I wouldn't really call any of them action movies. Most Shane Black movies are closer to buddy-cop or crime-comedy, First Blood I'd call a thriller, Rocky is a character study or a drama, and In Bruges is a super dark comedy.

I never heard of Bruges. Rocky, I'm familiar with. First Blood...maybe.

Also I do know Die Hard is an action movie even though I saw it before.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer

I never heard of Bruges. Rocky, I'm familiar with. First Blood...maybe.

Also I do know Die Hard is an action movie even though I saw it before.

But Die Hard was not on my list.

That list, of course, being "Peelee's List of Unconventional Christmas Movies That Don't Include Die Hard."

**Bartmanhomer** · 2020-12-20, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

But Die Hard was not on my list.

That list, of course, being "Peelee's List of Unconventional Christmas Movies That Don't Include Die Hard."

I meant I never saw Die Hard before. Sorry my mistake on my error. But I've heard of it before. Yes, Die Hard is a very unconventional Christmas movie even though it's a summer blockbuster.

**2D8HP** · 2020-12-20, 09:04 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Qwertystop

Well, it's good you don't have lung cancer, then.

Originally Posted by Tvtyrant

A bit worrying, but hopefully it is a good event then.

Thanks Qwertystop, and Tvtyrant

Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer

I can't wait for Christmas. I'm going to watch Christmas movies all day on Christmas.

My two favorites are 1938's Alexander Nevsky which features medieval sword fighting, a shield wall, and ice, lots and lots of ice, and 1990's Metropolitan which features witty downwardly mobile young adults, a little sad, but very funny.

Originally Posted by Peelee

Oh, like In Bruges... [/i]

Seconding In Bruges, 'tis a fine film, features gangsters and fantastic architecture.

[from the last thread]

Originally Posted by Anonymouswizard

I've got an urge to rewatch Horrible Histories. Probably from the fact that I swear my girlfriend has memorised every song from it.

Back the truck up Anonymouswizard - girlfriend as in sweetheart?

Oh please dish, tales of young love are irresistible, first: How serious is it?

Have you exchanged mixed tapes (or whatever your generation's equivalent is) yet?

Have you stood outside her window holding up a boom-box playing "In Your Eyes" yet (or "Love You More" by The Buzzcocks instead)?

I had it on good authority (in 1980) "If you want to get the girls you have to feather your hair" - totally worked!

Spiky medium length hair (on a boy or girl) gets you older men taking public transportation "hitting on you" instead as you and a girl who has almost the same hair ride the bus or wait for the train.

And that's about all my dimming memories can think of romance-wise now, except that (IIRC) you (me back then) won't feel as intensely "in-love" with your second girlfriend as you did with your first, but the (likely in the future) breakup doesn't hurt nearly as much, and you feel more gratitude that she was with you at all than the pain of loss, and 31 to 32 years later you're friends and dish and kvetch about step-kids and current spouses together pleasantly, don't try this with your first girlfriend though, those scars run deeper.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

Thanks Qwertystop, and Tvtyrant

Hey, I'm also happy about that!

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

Seconding In Bruges, 'tis a fine film, features gangsters and fantastic architecture.

It's easily become one of my favorite movies.

Also, it's like a ****ing fairy tale.

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

I had it on good authority (in 1980) "If you want to get the girls you have to feather your hair" - totally worked!

Feathered hair looked amazing. Shame it went out of style by the time I came of age.

Also, two statements you made me think of.
1.) "1980's John Cusack movie" is a full-fledged genre of its own.
2.) I love that genre.

**DataNinja** · 2020-12-20, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

What will the lighting be like?

Probably rainbow coloured. At a hunch.

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

I had it on good authority (in 1980) "If you want to get the girls you have to feather your hair" - totally worked!

Bah. That explains why I can't get any girls. I prefer waterfalls of hair.

**Peelee** · 2020-12-20, 09:18 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by DataNinja

Bah. That explains why I can't get any girls. I prefer waterfalls of hair.

Also amazing.

Im just a sucker for long hair, really.

**2D8HP** · 2020-12-20, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Peelee

Hey, I'm also happy about that!

And thank you kindly Peelee!

like a ****ing fairy tale.

It was indeed!

Feathered hair looked amazing. Shame it went out of style by the time I came of age.

Let me tell you of ancient times...

Spoiler: back in my day

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BACK IN MY DAY

(in no particular order, '70's, '80's, even a little '90's):

Supermarkets had cigarette vending machines.

Seat belts were optional

People smoked on airplanes.

"Candy cigarettes" were a thing.

Slept on a waterbed.

Had two VCR tapes (Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Things to Come) that we watched over and over again.

Star Wars (1977) was still in the movie theaters, was awesome and you got coolness points based on how many times you saw it (no way you saw it 12 times Ben, where are the ticket stubs?).

Same for Wizards

The rules I had for Dungeons & Dragons were only 48 pages.

Girls bought the liquor.

Ten teenagers in a station wagon driving to nowhere was how you spent a weekend, unless you just hung around The Pacific School of Religion after dark begging from each other.

The sound of gunfire could be heard every month for years, sometimes every week.

When Car Wash came on the radio on Sundays, all the men in the neighborhood would rush out, turn on their car radio's to the same station and start polishing their cars.

Most houses in the neighborhood had pictures of [people who were assassinated] on the walls, ten years later it was Hannibal, Shaka Zulu, and other "Great Kings of Africa" on the same walls.

Male teachers would get marijuana from their 12 year-old female students (and years later get arrested for having sex with a minor).

Three times I left my night shift job and walked out into a riot complete with cops wielding billy clubs, looting, and (once) with a car set on fire.

A friend died of AIDS, I was still a teenager.

Beggars on the streets were uncommon, and mostly young and white hippies (until '82).

Gasoline had lead in it, tasted great!

All the girls in high school loved "wine coolers".

Hair memories! Into at least the late '80's there was an all night dinner on Broadway in Oakland (the building is still there, but it's inside a used car lot now) and some of the "old" (they probably were the age I am now) waitresses still had "bouffant" hairdo's! The oldest looking waitress (who had the most impressive 'do of all) was "Bev".
1983, at the U.C. Theatres in Berkeley two "New Wave music" films were screened ('Breaking Glass' with Hazel O'Connor and "Starstruck" with No Kennedy) and many seats just behind the front row are empty because a large section of the front row is occupied by late teen/20's ladies with "beehive" hairdos, and I knew them! Usually their hair (while still impressive) wasn't so high, but this was an occasion! Despite my still being a young teen boy (while they already were out of their parents houses) they sometimes let me tag along, I had medium length spikey bleached blonde hair, was rail thin and usually wore a raincoat (despite it being sunny California) or dressed like an imitation Elvis Costello (complete with glasses) and with my looking like that me and "M" (with a magenta "B52") rode an A.C. Transit bus together, an older man approached us and spoke at length to us - especially to me, after he got off the bus she told me "You know he was trying to pick up on you right?" (no I didn't, I was 14 and pretty naive), and in a subsequent year ('84 or '85), I was at a BART station with "K" (who I met when we both attempted to see The Dead Kennedys at the Mabuhay, instead we just got drunk in an alley) and an older man approached us and (this time I could tell) tried to pick her up, and her hair? Medium length bleached blonde and spikey. So...
...boy or girl, if you want to be hit on by older men taking public transit go with medium length and spikey, BUT if you want to be remembered by a younger man even more than thirty years later?
Rock the bouffant.

Laundromats still had large hair dryers that ladies would pay a quarter to use.

At dances when "Rock Lobster" by The B52's played every one would slowly drop to the floor at "down, down, down".

You'd smoke Indonesian "clove" cigarettes as a teen, the grown ups didn't.

I wore paisley pattern J.C. Penny shirts with at least two buttons unbuttoned and "flared" corduroy pants, two years later: black "pegged" jeans stuffed into black socks, "China flats", shirt buttoned all the way to the neck, raincoat, two years after that: black leather jacket, black t-shirt, and Doc Martin boots.

It was "death rock" not "Goth".

All the girls loved "Tainted Love" by Softcell.

Ramones in '85, best show EVUH!

Operation Ivy in '88, damned good show.

Motorhead in '88,.such a violent show, still glorious.

Both boys and girl teens knew all the lyrics to "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang, and "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies.

It was "New Wave", not "Alternative", or "Indie"

Two "Star Trek" shows, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, every week on broadcast television.

It was "slam" or "thrash", never "mosh"

Ska started cool, then became lame.

Wonder Twin powers activate!

1.) "1980's John Cusack movie" is a full-fledged genre of its own.
2.) I love that genre.

Yes!
Not the '80's, and ir only has a little bit of John Cusack, but 1992's "Roadside Prophets" is excellent.

**Mith** · 2020-12-21, 12:57 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 2D8HP

And thank you kindly Peelee!

It was indeed!

Let me tell you of ancient times...

Spoiler: back in my day

Show

BACK IN MY DAY

(in no particular order, '70's, '80's, even a little '90's):

Supermarkets had cigarette vending machines.

Seat belts were optional

People smoked on airplanes.

"Candy cigarettes" were a thing.

Slept on a waterbed.

Had two VCR tapes (Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Things to Come) that we watched over and over again.

Star Wars (1977) was still in the movie theaters, was awesome and you got coolness points based on how many times you saw it (no way you saw it 12 times Ben, where are the ticket stubs?).

Same for Wizards

The rules I had for Dungeons & Dragons were only 48 pages.

Girls bought the liquor.

Ten teenagers in a station wagon driving to nowhere was how you spent a weekend, unless you just hung around The Pacific School of Religion after dark begging from each other.

The sound of gunfire could be heard every month for years, sometimes every week.

When Car Wash came on the radio on Sundays, all the men in the neighborhood would rush out, turn on their car radio's to the same station and start polishing their cars.

Most houses in the neighborhood had pictures of [people who were assassinated] on the walls, ten years later it was Hannibal, Shaka Zulu, and other "Great Kings of Africa" on the same walls.

Male teachers would get marijuana from their 12 year-old female students (and years later get arrested for having sex with a minor).

Three times I left my night shift job and walked out into a riot complete with cops wielding billy clubs, looting, and (once) with a car set on fire.

A friend died of AIDS, I was still a teenager.

Beggars on the streets were uncommon, and mostly young and white hippies (until '82).

Gasoline had lead in it, tasted great!

All the girls in high school loved "wine coolers".

Hair memories! Into at least the late '80's there was an all night dinner on Broadway in Oakland (the building is still there, but it's inside a used car lot now) and some of the "old" (they probably were the age I am now) waitresses still had "bouffant" hairdo's! The oldest looking waitress (who had the most impressive 'do of all) was "Bev".
1983, at the U.C. Theatres in Berkeley two "New Wave music" films were screened ('Breaking Glass' with Hazel O'Connor and "Starstruck" with No Kennedy) and many seats just behind the front row are empty because a large section of the front row is occupied by late teen/20's ladies with "beehive" hairdos, and I knew them! Usually their hair (while still impressive) wasn't so high, but this was an occasion! Despite my still being a young teen boy (while they already were out of their parents houses) they sometimes let me tag along, I had medium length spikey bleached blonde hair, was rail thin and usually wore a raincoat (despite it being sunny California) or dressed like an imitation Elvis Costello (complete with glasses) and with my looking like that me and "M" (with a magenta "B52") rode an A.C. Transit bus together, an older man approached us and spoke at length to us - especially to me, after he got off the bus she told me "You know he was trying to pick up on you right?" (no I didn't, I was 14 and pretty naive), and in a subsequent year ('84 or '85), I was at a BART station with "K" (who I met when we both attempted to see The Dead Kennedys at the Mabuhay, instead we just got drunk in an alley) and an older man approached us and (this time I could tell) tried to pick her up, and her hair? Medium length bleached blonde and spikey. So...
...boy or girl, if you want to be hit on by older men taking public transit go with medium length and spikey, BUT if you want to be remembered by a younger man even more than thirty years later?
Rock the bouffant.

Laundromats still had large hair dryers that ladies would pay a quarter to use.

At dances when "Rock Lobster" by The B52's played every one would slowly drop to the floor at "down, down, down".

You'd smoke Indonesian "clove" cigarettes as a teen, the grown ups didn't.

I wore paisley pattern J.C. Penny shirts with at least two buttons unbuttoned and "flared" corduroy pants, two years later: black "pegged" jeans stuffed into black socks, "China flats", shirt buttoned all the way to the neck, raincoat, two years after that: black leather jacket, black t-shirt, and Doc Martin boots.

It was "death rock" not "Goth".

All the girls loved "Tainted Love" by Softcell.

Ramones in '85, best show EVUH!

Operation Ivy in '88, damned good show.

Motorhead in '88,.such a violent show, still glorious.

Both boys and girl teens knew all the lyrics to "Rapper's Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang, and "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies.

It was "New Wave", not "Alternative", or "Indie"

Two "Star Trek" shows, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, every week on broadcast television.

It was "slam" or "thrash", never "mosh"

Ska started cool, then became lame.

Wonder Twin powers activate!

Yes!
Not the '80's, and ir only has a little bit of John Cusack, but 1992's "Roadside Prophets" is excellent.

It's good to see you around again, 2D8HP, and that you are doing well.

I have never gotten the impression that Ska is lame.

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