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Thread: Question on seatbelt safety
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2021-01-09, 11:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
To what extent does wearing a seatbelt protect people in other cars? If you don't wear a seatbelt, then obviously you are putting yourself in more danger. And, if you are sharing the car with anyone else, then you are putting them in more danger because you could fly out of your seat and hit them. But what about people in other cars? I can imagine a scenario where you are flung out of the window of your car into another lane, which could result in a car in another lane crashing when they wouldn't have done so if you were still in your car. But how likely is that scenario?
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2021-01-10, 05:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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I guess you become a worse problem for motorcyclists? you might not just turn into a projectile, but also an obstacle on the road, and cause people to go off the road or fall to swerve suddenly.
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2021-01-10, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
In a minor accident, a seat belt keeps you oriented and able to retain control of your vehicle, and thus better able to prevent secondary collisions.
Last edited by Lord Torath; 2021-01-10 at 01:33 PM.
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2021-01-10, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-10, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
As Peelee said, it varies. My car beeps continuously for about 30 seconds, then beeps about 5 seconds every 30 seconds until the car is off or the belt fashioned. My friend down the street's car beeps consistently. And my parents' car beep for about 15 seconds, then is just a flashing light.
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2021-01-11, 12:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-01-11, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
In that case we just need to develop one standard that covers all use cases, right?
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2021-01-12, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-01-12, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
I also try to keep this story in mind.
In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2021-01-12, 01:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Back in the 1970s my friend's father showed my father a complicated scheme of wrapping his seatbelt so he could ride in the (friend's dad's) car without wearing his seatbelt.
So it does (or did) happen. I have to assume these attitudes are much more prevalent in people born before "Unsafe at any Speed*" was published.
* the only reason to read the book is to see what type of nut Ralph Nader really is/was. The overall theme of the book is a widespread conspiracy to kill Americans in unsafe cars while everybody is simply meeting the (local minima) demand for unsafe cars. Reading it is a weird experience, in a kind of "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you" kind of way. It is conspiracy theory that is effectively correct in its facts, I don't expect to read anything else like it.
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2021-01-12, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
In 2009 I was visiting the US and was staying with an aquaitance and as he picked me up from the airport I couldn't find the seatbelt fastener in the backseat, normally only the dogs rode in the back of this car.
He told me it was ok, there was no law requiring it. I told him I didn't as much care about he law as I valued my life. So he had to figure out where to dig up the fasteners for the seatbelts since I wouldn't ride without it.
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2021-01-12, 06:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Warhammer 40,000 Campaign Skirmish Game: Warpstrike
My Spelljammer stuff (including an orbit tracker), 2E AD&D spreadsheet, and Vault of the Drow maps are available in my Dropbox. Feel free to use or not use it as you see fit!
Thri-Kreen Ranger/Psionicist by me, based off of Rich's A Monster for Every Season
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2021-01-12, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Given the skill level of the average American driver, smart move.
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2021-01-13, 05:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
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2021-01-13, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-02-15, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
Since I was 16 (I'm now 27), I've been frustrated by my parents over this. They've owned three different cars in that time with incredibly annoying seatbelt alarms, yet they still usually refuse to put their seatbelts on entirely out of laziness. Beyond even the safety concerns, whenever I'm in the car with them, I have to badger them into putting their seatbelts on just to get the car to shut up.
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2021-02-16, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2013
Re: Question on seatbelt safety
It's easier when I'm driving. The key won't even go into the ignition until everybody's belted in.
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2021-03-12, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Question on seatbelt safety
As someone who works on his own vehicles, I find this problematic, maybe discriminatory. I wear my seatbelt religiously, but I start the engine first to listen to it before doing anything else, literally every single time, and if I hear something abnormal I want to be able to get out quickly to investigate. Putting a deadman switch to the gears is fine, but don't deadman my motor.
My first ride, The Mighty Tempo, had this "feature". That car is the reason I developed the habits noted above. Like someone mentioned, people lost their heads over automatic shoulder belts.
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2021-03-12, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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