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    Quote Originally Posted by rax View Post
    Re impact - cool, thanks for clearing that up. And yes, helmets and proper torso protection are always among the things I buy first for melee characters. Breastplate is next...

    Re harrow points - I assume that means we can remove them from our profiles if we've used them? Or will they make a comeback in future chapters?
    They come back in different chapters but have different themes
    There is probably 2 more set pieces in this Book then we are finished Book 1 of Crimson Throne. It’s probably the most varied, the others are a bit more railroady and smaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by farothel View Post
    What are Harrow Points? I don't recall having those?
    We got them for the first encounter with Gaedren Lamm. Since DrK indicated there are more encounters coming up where we might see them in use again, maybe you'll get yours then.

    Edit: Yay! Ulric's Fury for a massive...+1 damage! I'm going to be a bit miffed if the beastie manages to parry or dodge Cassian's righteous counterattacks here.
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    Undead, unless they're vampires or something of that level, are not very big on the dodge thing. Parry maybe, but dodge mostly not.
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    Possibly, but that would be an RP thing. There's no mention of undead of any stripe not parrying in the Old World Bestiary.

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    Well you need the skill to dodge and you need a weapon (and sometimes an action) to parry yes?

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    Yep, I assume that’s why regular skeletons in the WFRP have weapons. The skeletal bear may indeed be incapable of parrying since natural weapons don’t allow parrying (IIRC).

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    Well Cieranoth has given a real killer pair of blows to that skeleton
    Cassian has done well with Winifred on the big one…
    There is a chance that Andrei may be able to finish it off
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    So if I understand correctly a harrow point is a fate point with a best before date right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilphe View Post
    So if I understand correctly a harrow point is a fate point with a best before date right?
    Yes
    There are points in the book (normally near the finale) where they can offer additional options as well
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    I'll use a fortune point to reroll that heal check on Winifred.
    (1d100)[22] vs 49
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    Thank you...

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    7 wounds back each is a decent amount of healing! Who needs a priest eh? (althogh I'm sure a hammer toting priest of Gorum or a healing priestess of Shelyn would be welcome)

    On that note... Once we finish this bit are we wanting a DM-PC? Or to recruit a 5th team member to help with the relative lethailty of WFRP combat?

    EDIT: Also, is anyone needing obscure or expensive trappings for upcoming career changes, jst so I can help facilitate natural character growth and make sure "loot" can be helpful in that regards
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    5th team member would be cute.

    And/or we ask Long Knife to hang around


    Trappings wise, I prefer to do this organically rather than ask for it to drop.

    Directly Winifred would go Dilettante => Courtier

    However there is not just the question of trappings, there is also the matter of getting her due inheritance story wise to support that (which if anything will happen after the adventure path is done - or if there is a few months downtime coming up to give narrative space or sidequest)

    Also, also, she would rather have a more diverse and useful skill set before trying a court career

    At the moment she has acquired most of the trappings to go Diestro->Bodyguard>Cadet first and that should keep her busy for a while

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    I'm going to be in Scout for quite some time (3100 XP if I'm not mistaken), so I'm still looking for trappings for scout, mostly Medium armour (mail shirt) and a horse with sadle and harness for scout and best quality full leather armour (to wear under the mail shirt) for ghost strider. I wouldn't say no to a magical weapon or something like that, but who wouldn't.

    I do plan on boosting INT so I can more reliably heal and get some equipment to make it easier, but a priest could be an addition. It will be tricky to convert the PF dieties to Warhammer magic though. If I recall correctly only Shallya and Sigmar have healing in their spell lists (at least more than stabilizing).
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    Quick calculation suggests it would take about 2600 for Winifred to go through those three

    The alternative to Diestro would be Mercenary, but I do not want her to be wearing mail- though technically what she is wearing right now (Full Studded at 90GC) is more expensive than the 72 GC for Mail Shirt + Leather Jack

    So on balance that is better for her than Diestro

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    I think Cassian needs to spend another 1,500 xp in Apprentice Wizard before he's ready to move on, at which point I'll probably go for Knight to boost his combat prowess some more.

    As I noted earlier, Knight is expensive - he needs full plate, some more weapons, and he needs to replace his light warhorse with a destrier. So Cassian either needs a couple of big paydays or loot drops that happen to be the kind of trappings he needs (which may already be part of the scenario, this being a D&D/Pathfinder adventure path).

    Also, regarding Knight, one of the career talents is Specialist Weapon Group (Flail). Since Cassian is meant to be following a Taldoran tradition, would it be possible to replace that with SWG (Parrying), so he can use a buckler and imitate the Rondelero Duelist archetype?

    Re adding an NPC to help us out, a dedicated healer seems like a good idea, assuming there are actually spells that can keep up with our wounding. If Cassian survives to make it into Journeyman Wizard, he'll be studying the Lore of Life, but I believe the only healing spell in that Lore has the caster as the only possible target.
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    Ideally I need trappings for journeyman wizard at some point. I'm ok with it happening organically but I need a way for Andrei to be more useful without him having to charge people.

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    Go old school - pick up a crossbow!

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    You mean dart

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    Quote Originally Posted by rax View Post
    Re adding an NPC to help us out, a dedicated healer seems like a good idea, assuming there are actually spells that can keep up with our wounding. If Cassian survives to make it into Journeyman Wizard, he'll be studying the Lore of Life, but I believe the only healing spell in that Lore has the caster as the only possible target.
    I assume you mean in Core

    Well its not that bad

    healIng of hysh
    Casting Number: 10
    Casting Time: Full action
    Ingredient: A clear glass bead (+2)
    Description: Your touch heals an injured character a number of Wounds equal to your Magic Characteristic. You can also heal yourself. This is a touch spell


    But it is pretty bad compared to what the divine equivalent can do

    Cure wounds
    Casting Number: 6
    Casting Time: Half action
    Ingredient: A leech (+1)
    Description: Your touch heals an injured character of a number of Wounds equal to 1d10 plus your Magic Characteristic. You can also heal yourself. This is a touch spell.


    And to be honest neither is an improvement on person with Heal skill even if you ignore the prospect of casting mishap.


    We are almost certainly better off winning fights quickly by applying more force than using magical healing


    And if we are talking old school then hirelings exist for fairly modest rates...
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    Well no, I meant the Lore of Life (as I wrote), not the Lore of Light.

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    It does kind of piss me that the Lore of Life isn't the one that deals with healing but Light is

    But yes, here is the one:

    earTh blood
    Casting Number: 9
    Casting Time: 1-10 half actions
    Ingredient: A dagger (+1)
    Description: You absorb energy from the earth beneath your feet to
    heal yourself. You must be standing on natural earth.
    If cast successfully, earth blood heals Wounds equal to the number of
    half actions you spent casting the spell (maximum 10).
    You may not cast this spell on others.

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    Something I can/need to roll to know what creatures these are?
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    What lore skills do you have?
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    Academic Knowledge (Magic) or Common Lore (Korvosa) as appropriate
    vs. Int 53
    (1d100)[6]

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    Absolutely knackered today. Aiming to post tomorrow evening.

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    Sleep well

    Winifred only has Common Knowledge - Varisia (1d100)[73] 41

    Heraldry/Genealogy is probably going to be even less useful...

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    I only have common knowledge(elves): (1d100)[13] vs 49

    There are no lore skills like in PF here, only a few knowledge skills.
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    Andrei has heard of these creatures before. Derro, distantly related to the dwarves and deep dwarves the Derro dwell in the second, deeper layer of the Underdark. They are creatures of evil, dwarves twisted by Dhar (dark magic) only dabbling with those who consort with dark forces. All of the Derro like to inflict pain on living creatures… they are not renowned for being friendly or approachable to surface dwellers
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    Does Winifred think they are trying to communicate or just using Blather on her?

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