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    Default Re: You just gained a level in real life: 2021 edition!

    Good grief. It has taken me almost three weeks to respond. And why? Because I was uninspired. Because this is the dead level before the good stuff happens.

    But let us drive ahead, full steam. The beast is back.

    First, a refresher on my past misdeeds.

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    Psion (Telepath) 1
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 261
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity (Psion bonus feat).
    PP/day: 2+42
    Powers Known: Charm, Psionic; Inertial Armor; Mindlink.

    1 The 15 in the Elite Array is here replaced by Red Fel's natural Int score, which has previously been established as 26.
    2 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.

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    Erudite (Spell to Power variant) 1
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 261
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity2.
    PP/day: 2+43
    Powers Known4: Attraction; Demoralize; Far Hand; Inertial Armor; Matter Agitation; Mind Thrust; Missive; Synchronicity; Synesthete; Vigor.

    1 The 15 in the Elite Array is here replaced by Red Fel's natural Int score, which has previously been established as 26.
    2 The Spell to Power variant Erudite gains Psicrystal Affinity as a normal Erudite, but loses its bonus feat.
    3 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    4 An Erudite starts play with two 1st-level powers known, plus one for every point of INT modifier. Red Fel has an INT modifier of +8.

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    So, one level later, I have:

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    Psion (Telepath) 2
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 261
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity (Psion bonus feat).
    PP/day: 6+42
    Powers Known: Attraction; Charm, Psionic; Demoralize; Inertial Armor; Mindlink.

    1 The 15 in the Elite Array is here replaced by Red Fel's natural Int score, which has previously been established as 26.
    2 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.

    When a Psion levels up, he gets two new Powers. Attraction and Demoralize will do well to keep people doing what I want, covertly.

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    Erudite (Spell to Power variant) 2
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 261
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity2.
    PP/day: 6+43
    Powers Known4: Attraction; Demoralize; Disable; Far Hand; Inertial Armor; Matter Agitation; Mind Thrust; Missive; Synchronicity; Synesthete; Telempathic Projection; Vigor.

    1 The 15 in the Elite Array is here replaced by Red Fel's natural Int score, which has previously been established as 26.
    2 The Spell to Power variant Erudite gains Psicrystal Affinity as a normal Erudite, but loses its bonus feat.
    3 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    4 An Erudite starts play with two 1st-level powers known, plus one for every point of INT modifier. Red Fel has an INT modifier of +8.

    An Erudite, likewise, gets two powers, here Disable and Telempathic Projection. Ideal for expanding my repertoire of tools to manipulate the feeble masses.

    Sadly, it will be another year before I get a new feat, but I'll bide my time. In either event, at this point, I can pretty much get anybody to do pretty much anything I like.

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    Alright, I'm back. And in an attempt to appeal to this so-called "fair play" thing I keep hearing about, I will adjust my INT - the stat, not my natural brilliance - back to its proper place in the Elite Array. (I'm keeping the bonus Powers, though.) First, nested quotes from the past two threads.
    So, in 2019, I have:

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    Psion (Telepath) 3
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 15
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity (Psion bonus feat); Extend Power.
    PP/day: 11+31
    Powers Known: Attraction; Charm, Psionic; Demoralize; Inertial Armor; Mindlink; Share Pain; Vigor.

    1 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.

    When a Psion levels up, he gets two new Powers. Vigor and Share Pain will allow me to dump some damage onto my Psicrystal, which may be useful if I start drawing attention to myself. I'm also taking Extend Power for my level 3 feat, because obviously.

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    Erudite (Spell to Power variant) 3
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 15
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity1, Extend Power.
    PP/day: 11+32
    Powers Known3: Attraction; Demoralize; Disable; Far Hand; Inertial Armor; Matter Agitation; Mind Thrust; Missive; Psionic Tongues; Share Pain; Synchronicity; Synesthete; Telempathic Projection; Vigor.

    1 The Spell to Power variant Erudite gains Psicrystal Affinity as a normal Erudite, but loses its bonus feat.
    2 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    3 An Erudite starts play with two 1st-level powers known, plus one for every point of INT modifier. Red Fel has an INT modifier of +8. Red Fel's INT score has been reduced to its appropriate level. However, I'm keeping the bonus Powers.

    An Erudite, likewise, gets two powers, here Share Pain and Psionic Tongues. The former, as above, keeps me hardy; the latter is a valuable tool in a global world. And again, Extend Power.

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    Psion (Telepath) 4
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 161
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity (Psion bonus feat); Extend Power.
    PP/day: 17+62
    Powers Known: Attraction; Charm, Psionic; Demoralize; Inertial Armor; Mindlink; Read Thoughts; Share Pain; Suggestion, Psionic; Vigor.

    1 Level 4 includes an ability score increase. Obviously I am upgrading my INT.
    2 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.

    When a Psion levels up, he gets two new Powers. Frankly, I'm running low on options if I want to stay subtle. Some really fun ideas - like Cloud Mind - simply don't work in an age when everyone is armed with tiny cameras. Know Direction and Location is useful, but again, you probably have GPS in your pocket - I know I do. And while Telempathic Projection is neat, Attraction fulfills much the same role, with a longer duration. So it's a tricky choice.

    Eventually, I settled on Read Thoughts and Suggestion. They fit my subtle methods, and help me with my social engineering goals. Read Thoughts keeps me from saying The Absolute Wrong Thing, which is a legitimate concern, while Suggestion helps me motivate people - and demotivate others - which contributes to my image as an effective and charismatic leader.

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    Erudite (Spell to Power variant) 4
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 161
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity2, Extend Power.
    PP/day: 17+63
    Powers Known4: Attraction; Demoralize; Disable; Far Hand; Inertial Armor; Matter Agitation; Mind Thrust; Missive; Psionic Tongues; Read Thoughts; Share Pain; Suggestion, Psionic; Synchronicity; Synesthete; Telempathic Projection; Vigor.

    1 Level 4 includes an ability score increase. Obviously I am upgrading my INT.
    2 The Spell to Power variant Erudite gains Psicrystal Affinity as a normal Erudite, but loses its bonus feat.
    3 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    4 An Erudite starts play with two 1st-level powers known, plus one for every point of INT modifier. Red Fel has an INT modifier of +8. Red Fel's INT score has been reduced to its appropriate level. However, I'm keeping the bonus Powers.

    So here we are again. Let's go.

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    Red Fel
    Psion (Telepath) 5
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 16
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity (Psion bonus feat); Extend Power; Inquisitor (Psion bonus feat)1
    PP/day: 25+62
    Powers Known: Attraction; Charm, Psionic; Crisis of Breath3; Demoralize; False Sensory Input3; Inertial Armor; Mindlink; Read Thoughts; Share Pain; Suggestion, Psionic; Vigor.

    1 Level 5 includes a bonus psionic feat. I am choosing Inquisitor, to better tell whether people deceive me. Subtlety.
    2 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    3 I gain two bonus Powers. I choose Crisis of Breath and False Sensory Input.

    I chose Inquisitor for my bonus Psionic feat, as it allows me to expend my Psionic Focus to get a bonus to Sense Motive against Bluff checks. In other words, it's an on-command not-quote-Detect Lies, which is pretty useful.

    I also get two Powers at this level. Moreover, I can now choose 3rd-level Powers, so it's time to consult the chart. And as it happens, Telepath has two perfect choices - Crisis of Breath and False Sensory Input. The latter is great for subtlety, for what should be obvious reasons. The former is slightly more offensive, but still subtle - a single person suddenly gasping for air maybe choked on his own saliva or something. It's hardly suspicious.

    Moving on.

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    Erudite (Spell to Power variant) 5
    STR: 8
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 16
    WIS: 13
    CHA: 14

    Feats: Overchannel (Human bonus feat), Psicrystal Affinity1, Extend Power; Inquisitor (Psion bonus feat)2.
    PP/day: 25+63
    Powers Known4: Attraction; Demoralize; Disable; Far Hand; Inertial Armor; Matter Agitation; Mind Thrust; Missive; Psionic Tongues; Read Thoughts; Share Pain; Solicit Psycrystal5; Suggestion, Psionic; Synchronicity; Synesthete; Telempathic Projection; Touchsight5; Vigor.

    1 The Spell to Power variant Erudite gains Psicrystal Affinity as a normal Erudite, but loses its bonus feat.
    2 Level 5 includes a bonus psionic feat. I am choosing Inquisitor, to better tell whether people deceive me. Subtlety.
    3 INT grants a bonus to PP/day.
    4 An Erudite starts play with two 1st-level powers known, plus one for every point of INT modifier. Red Fel has an INT modifier of +8. Red Fel's INT score has been reduced to its appropriate level. However, I'm keeping the bonus Powers.
    5 Sadly, an Erudite cannot choose directly from the Psion discipline power list. So I am forced to choose more generic powers, in this case Solicit Psycrystal and Touchsight.

    Again, I'm taking Inquisitor for its don't-lie-to-me subtlety bonus. For powers, I'm taking Solicit Psycrystal, to let my rocky friend do the heavy lifting in maintaining my powers, and Touchsight, for guaranteed awareness. It's basically a better Synesthete.
    My headache medicine has a little "Ex" inscribed on the pill. It's not a brand name; it's an indicator that it works inside an Anti-Magic Field.

    Blue text means sarcasm. Purple text means evil. White text is invisible.

    My signature got too big for its britches. So now it's over here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    The item is amber amulet of vermin. It's a neck slot item. Which means congratulations, you can now projectile-vomit up a praying mantis the size of a horse. That oughta impress people at parties.


    Assume a reasonable exchange rate, per the FAQ.
    Whoops, that. Amber Amulet of Vermin. What I get for rushing my posts (which I'm doing again).

    Also, I might have asked this before, but does the salt thing work? And what about art and the like? Can I carve up my building materials to cover the crafting costs? Or just chuck a painting in there?

    Not that I'm really worried, by this point I've presumably completely won at life, including (but not limited to) being able to get however much money I want, I'm just curious.
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    Anyway, so for me, my 3.5 version gets to take a level of shaper of form! I'm going to change my race to changeling, natch, and like begets like allows me to generate quadratic wealth. Craft Wondrous Item is my new feat, and it will give me plenty of ways to spend said wealth—in particular, I'm going to need a cloak of charisma to help with my casting pretty soon. Eagle's splendor as a known spell will help facilitate this. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1661408

    Meanwhile, in Pathfinder, I've audibled from bard to magical girl, and I just learned levitate as a 2nd-level spell and Inspired Vigilante as a vigilante talent. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1793943

    And finally, in Spheres of Power land, I think we've come to a point in human history where I can no longer in good conscience hold onto the Life sphere drawback that limits the sphere to self-only, so I'm using this level's talent to remove it. While it takes spell points to actually cure anything, diagnosing is free, and in a pandemic, even that alone is too much to ignore. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1662211
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    These should come in handy IRL

    3.5 Entry
    Human Artificer 1
    Stats priority Int, Wis, Con, Cha, Dex, Str. +2 to Int, plus adjustments for being Middle Aged
    Faerun Region and bonus tbd
    2 flaws
    Feats tbd
    Skills - Max out UMD, Craft (Tinkering), others tbd
    Plan for the year - Keep a low profile and scribe scrolls of Cure Disease and other useful spells



    PF Entry
    Human Witch 1 with Herb Witch archetype.
    Stats priority Int, Wis, Con, Cha, Dex, Str. +2 to Int, plus adjustments for being Middle Aged
    Feats tbd
    Skills - Max out Profession (Herbalist), and Craft (Alchemy), other tbd
    Plan for the year - make 3 + Int herbal remedies daily.



    3.PF 3PP Entry
    Human Cloistered Cleric 1 with spellpoint/vitality variant casting plus access to Sand domain. Other domain tbd. Or possibly some other class that grants at least 1 selectable domain.
    Worship an ideal (eg apocalypse prepper) instead of a deity.
    Stats priority Int, Wis, Con, Cha, Dex, Str. +2 to Int, plus adjustments for being Middle Aged
    Faerun Region and bonus tbd
    Flaws tbd
    Traits tbd
    Feats tbd
    Skills - Max out Craft (Alchemy) and Craft (Tinkering). The latter is a skill in Dragonlance Races of Ansalon.

    Plan for the year - Maintain a low profile of course.
    Use Alchemy to churn out shapesand.
    Use shapesand in conjunction with Sand Domain ability to make Masterwork tools, weapons/armor including all the goodies in PF Technology guide. Especially the various Nanite Hypoguns. Shapesand is basically nanobots in a way.

    3D print some innoculous casings to hide the fact they are made of sand and prevent line of effect in case someone tries to wrest over control. Wear a coat or jacket to hide armor etc.

    Use Tinkering to build Gnomish Contraptions (also In Races of Ansalon). Other races can make them, but don't enjoy certain benefits. Contraptions can have a small number of attack/ defense/ skill/ feat/ misc functions, of which the cost is based off Complexity. Which serves as the design/craft DC and determines how many toolpoints (ie parts) are required. Powerful and complex options won't be cheap, but there are ways to min max. Misc functions are especially nice, since they don't have their own complexities and are considered a part of the other functions. A mobile bookshelf with a selector arm to pass books to the owner? Cost is based off how much damage the arm does. Ecavation drill/boring machine that make tunnels? Cost is based on how much damage it does.
    So an autodoc that heals damage can be potentially be based off a cheap 1d2 attack function. A minature zero point power plant can be based off a 1d2 damage fire or electricty attack.

    Make a medium-sized vehicle shaped like power armor with various movement modes like walk/fly/swim/submersible etc. Use a feat function to grant it the Mighty Steed feat so that it counts as large for carrying riders to make a medium sized Ironman suit. Or just go for large or bigger vehicles to make Hulk Buster or a Mecha.

    Not all desired functions can fit on a single contraption due to how many max functions each contraption can take. However, once the suit is up, make portable gadgets that has various abilities. That'll give both Batman and Ironman a run for their money.

    Will flesh out more later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Anyway, so for me, my 3.5 version gets to take a level of shaper of form! I'm going to change my race to changeling, natch, and like begets like allows me to generate quadratic wealth. Craft Wondrous Item is my new feat, and it will give me plenty of ways to spend said wealth—in particular, I'm going to need a cloak of charisma to help with my casting pretty soon. Eagle's splendor as a known spell will help facilitate this. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1661408
    Your build is really cool. Jack of All Trades + Bardic Knack is basically omnicompetence, which sounds amazingly convenient! And the changeling's racial ability is just icing on the cake. Incidentally, what are you planning on doing next? Right now you have Bardic Knack at 3 virtual ranks: are you planning on sticking to straight Bard to improve that? Or will you enter PrCs like Lyric Thaumaturge or Sublime Chord?

    After looking at you character sheet I wondered if it should have one fewer feat. IIRC you lose your human bonus feat when you become a changeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonOfAnathrax View Post
    Your build is really cool. Jack of All Trades + Bardic Knack is basically omnicompetence, which sounds amazingly convenient! And the changeling's racial ability is just icing on the cake. Incidentally, what are you planning on doing next? Right now you have Bardic Knack at 3 virtual ranks: are you planning on sticking to straight Bard to improve that? Or will you enter PrCs like Lyric Thaumaturge or Sublime Chord?
    Oh I'm sticking with shaper of form. Gotta get that sweet sweet PAO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Anyway, so for me, my 3.5 version gets to take a level of shaper of form! I'm going to change my race to changeling, natch, and like begets like allows me to generate quadratic wealth. Craft Wondrous Item is my new feat, and it will give me plenty of ways to spend said wealth—in particular, I'm going to need a cloak of charisma to help with my casting pretty soon. Eagle's splendor as a known spell will help facilitate this. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1661408

    Meanwhile, in Pathfinder, I've audibled from bard to magical girl, and I just learned levitate as a 2nd-level spell and Inspired Vigilante as a vigilante talent. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1793943

    And finally, in Spheres of Power land, I think we've come to a point in human history where I can no longer in good conscience hold onto the Life sphere drawback that limits the sphere to self-only, so I'm using this level's talent to remove it. While it takes spell points to actually cure anything, diagnosing is free, and in a pandemic, even that alone is too much to ignore. https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1662211
    First of all, how lucky that you should happen to be contacted by spirits beyond the ken of mortal men. Unless just knowing Transmutation spells counts as studying both magical and mundane means of altering the world around you, in which case I suspect lots of people in this thread can expect a visit from the spirits of form at some point or another.

    Also, I'll mention that the Resize cantrip from Dragon #302 can generate quadratic wealth in much the same way as Like Begets Like.

    I'm not really familiar with Pathfinder. First of all, I'm guessing that by Magical Girl you're referring to the Magical Child Vigilante archetype, because that's all that came up on PFSRD when I Googled it. Assuming that's the case, I don't see anything about changing classes, unless PF has some way to completely rebuild in a way which doesn't require any of the stuff 3.5 does.

    Is Spheres of Power its own category, or is that a 3PP build and you're just only using SoP material?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    First of all, how lucky that you should happen to be contacted by spirits beyond the ken of mortal men. Unless just knowing Transmutation spells counts as studying both magical and mundane means of altering the world around you, in which case I suspect lots of people in this thread can expect a visit from the spirits of form at some point or another.
    Psh, spirits of form contact me all the time even without using me any magic. Are you not on their subreddit? (But also, see the FAQ about setting-specific requirements.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    I'm not really familiar with Pathfinder. First of all, I'm guessing that by Magical Girl you're referring to the Magical Child Vigilante archetype, because that's all that came up on PFSRD when I Googled it. Assuming that's the case, I don't see anything about changing classes, unless PF has some way to completely rebuild in a way which doesn't require any of the stuff 3.5 does.
    Yes and yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    Is Spheres of Power its own category, or is that a 3PP build and you're just only using SoP material?
    3PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Psh, spirits of form contact me all the time even without using me any magic. Are you not on their subreddit? (But also, see the FAQ about setting-specific requirements.)
    Was that setting-specific? Is Shaper of Form FR or something? Regardless, I was just a bit vexed that you allowed an adaptation of "being contacted by spirits" but not of "being a member of a cabal of illusionists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    Was that setting-specific? Is Shaper of Form FR or something? Regardless, I was just a bit vexed that you allowed an adaptation of "being contacted by spirits" but not of "being a member of a cabal of illusionists".
    Well, in that case, the requirement isn't to be a member of a cabal of illusionists. It's to be a gnome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Well, in that case, the requirement isn't to be a member of a cabal of illusionists. It's to be a gnome.
    Yeah, but when I asked if I could use the non-gnome adaptation, your response was not that I couldn't use it because it was an adaptation and I needed to be a gnome, but rather that I couldn't do it because I wasn't a member of a cabal of illusionists, and would not be able to join one because there are no cabals of illusionists.

    In other words, at least from what I gleaned from your responses, the non-gnome adaptation is legitimate, but must be accomplished in the strictest sense, whereas here you seem to be taking a more lenient approach. Admittedly, the two cases aren't exactly the same, and I don't know what you changed the Shaper of Form requirement to.

    I think I asked this before, but can we use variant campaign rules? Because test-based prerequisites would render this whole thing moot, although it would probably raise even more questions. Totally OP variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    Yeah, but when I asked if I could use the non-gnome adaptation, your response was not that I couldn't use it because it was an adaptation and I needed to be a gnome, but rather that I couldn't do it because I wasn't a member of a cabal of illusionists, and would not be able to join one because there are no cabals of illusionists.

    In other words, at least from what I gleaned from your responses, the non-gnome adaptation is legitimate, but must be accomplished in the strictest sense, whereas here you seem to be taking a more lenient approach. Admittedly, the two cases aren't exactly the same, and I don't know what you changed the Shaper of Form requirement to.
    Setting-specific prerequisites can be adapted to fit the setting. The cabal of illusionists version is an adaptation that doesn't fit the setting, at least not as far as I know. (I mean, who even knows with illusionists, right?) Either way, you have to admit it was a little cheeky of you to ask for an easier entry method that you also didn't qualify for!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkra View Post
    I think I asked this before, but can we use variant campaign rules? Because test-based prerequisites would render this whole thing moot, although it would probably raise even more questions. Totally OP variant.
    No campaign variants. In this case...who would even administer the tests? Are we going to have SAT Subject Tests in Arcane Archery and Shadow Dancing? I bet they have those in the Onward universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Setting-specific prerequisites can be adapted to fit the setting. The cabal of illusionists version is an adaptation that doesn't fit the setting, at least not as far as I know. (I mean, who even knows with illusionists, right?) Either way, you have to admit it was a little cheeky of you to ask for an easier entry method that you also didn't qualify for!


    No campaign variants. In this case...who would even administer the tests? Are we going to have SAT Subject Tests in Arcane Archery and Shadow Dancing? I bet they have those in the Onward universe.
    I was willing to file all the necessary paperwork to establish an official cabal, but sure, I guess that's fair.

    Honestly, the whole "who administers the tests" thing is a problem in any setting, because there are PrCs that aren't meant to be related to an organization or taught by a teacher. Unless there's some Frenzied Berserker telling Barbarians "The trick to frenzying is to get really angry, and then get even angrier".

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    It occurs to me that even with the "no custom item" restriction, you can still Sculpt a Minor Schema, which would only cost a bit more than a custom item would, and you could presumably only get any given spell 1/day, due to not being able to Sculpt the same thing twice.

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    Heaslh troubles kept me away so I didnt see this thread.

    I`ll continue taking avowed Levels, Level 5 by now.

    Still relaxing in its simplicity.
    A neutron walks into a bar and says, “How much for a beer?” The bartender says, “For you? No charge.”

    01010100011011110010000001100010011001010010000001 10111101110010001000000110111001101111011101000010 00000111010001101111001000000110001001100101001011 100010111000101110

    Later: An atom walks into a bar an asks the bartender “Have you seen an electron? I left it in here last night.” The bartender says, “Are you sure?” The atom says, “I’m positive.”

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    If this is theoretical, and I get level 1 at the starting age category, and one every year since... actually, I would be level 20 now, so I would probably be a Beguiler 10/Fiend-Blooded 8/Beguiler +2. Hardly optimized, but fun as hell to imagine!
    Murphy said 'whatever can go wrong, will go wrong'.

    I say Murphy was an incurable optimist.

    In my experience, even things that can't go wrong... often do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrender View Post
    If this is theoretical, and I get level 1 at the starting age category, and one every year since... actually, I would be level 20 now, so I would probably be a Beguiler 10/Fiend-Blooded 8/Beguiler +2. Hardly optimized, but fun as hell to imagine!
    No retroactivity! You're level 1. 🧐
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    I strongly considered the path of Poverty and asceticism, but it is just too restritive. Even a modern minimalist or alternative lifestyle as depicted in Captain Fantastic movie is unsustainable under the Vow rules.
    Like seriously, no more entertainment? Borrowed books or internet use outside the public library?

    Q. Can Flaws be acquired at irregular intervals (to a maximun of two) or only at YEAR 1?

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    Let's go all the way, Sage.

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    I'll grab my 4th level of wizard.

    I never revealed my stats, but taking the nonelite array, they look like this now

    STR: 11
    DEX: 10
    CON: 12
    INT: 14
    WIS: 8
    CHA: 9

    Feats include Able Learner, Iron Will, Improved Initiative (from swapping wizard feats for fighter feats), and Practiced Spellcaster.

    Grabbing Know: Arcana, Concentration & Sense Motive (4 ranks only), Spellcraft, Hide, Search, and Spot.

    Current Ranks:

    Concentration: 4 ranks
    Sense Motive: 4 ranks
    Knowledge Arcana: 8 ranks
    Spellcraft: 8 ranks
    Hide: 6 ranks
    Search: 2 ranks
    Spot: 6 ranks

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    I feel like I just did this, but I think that was 2020. I'll do another warlock level and then just edit in how my sheet has changed.

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    That should update everything. Noble Stipend gives me a more luxurious comfortable life, and so does the extra social talent "In Vogue". In later years, I'll take the "Fast Learner" and "Cunning" feats to pick up more skill points.
    Nevermind, it WAS this year. I just missed 2020.

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    Take a level of warlock, spider limb and the swimming invocations.

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    I appear to have missed this year's! Housing mess will do that for you.

    Pathfinder, I'd continue on to Bard 5. Important notes here are taking 10 on knowledge checks and another bard 2 spell known. Alter Self, Gallant Inspiration, Detect Thoughts, the humble Suggestion, there are options here. Critically, we're 2 levels away from 3rd level bard spells, specifically Lesser Geas and Glibness, which is when I'd become one of the best social creatures that's secretly an introvert you've met.

    3.5, meanwhile, I think I stick with the factotum plan, and still attempt if possible to retrain the errant bard level to factotum. I'd end up either factotum 4 or 5, depending on the retraining. 4 gets me cunning strike, 5 gets me the ability to pull healing out when needed, and 2nd level wiz/sorc spells, without needing to find them in the world.

    I figure at this point, my main concern is with the others who've got class levels, and with the knowledge skills I'd be rocking I can probably hear tales of them. Figure out who I want to know, who I want to avoid, and who I want to appease (Red Fel), and work out a way to dodge divination of myself. Get a nice place by the seaside, travel periodically, take up gardening.
    LGBTA+itP

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