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The LA Assignment Archive V2.0
After nine threads, six books, and nearly five years; Inevitability has retired from managing the LA Assignment threads. Here, we continue where he left off.
Please do not post in this thread. Comments on assigned LA's, thread form or other such things should go in the most recent LA-assignment thread.
Spoiler: ThreadsInevitability's Original Archive Thread
The LA-assignment thread
The LA-assignment thread II: Where The Em Dash Doesn't Exist
The LA-assignment thread III: Now in HD!
The LA-assignment thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
The LA-assignment thread V: Escape from LA
The LA-assignment thread: Making monster PCs VI-able
The LA-assignment thread VII: LA LA Land
The LA-assignment thread VIII: Way Too Much For Vampirism
The LA-assignment thread IX: I have no mouth and I must S,V,M
The LA Assignment Thread X: New Year, New Management, Same Unplayable Monsters
The LA Assignment Thread XI: Better LA'd Than Never
The LA Assignment Thread XII: The LA-bors of Heracles
Spoiler: ClarificationThe guideline for assigning LA is as follows: a monster is compared to the most similar class from tier 1 to 4 (so a nymph would be compared to a druid, a naztharune rakshasa to a rogue, and an ogre to a barbarian), and given an LA that makes it comparable to a PC of equal ECL (for example, a +1 LA centaur with a single barbarian level is considered to be about on par with a 6th-level orc barbarian, while a +0 LA centaur would be too strong).
Some monsters and templates may have a LA of '-0'. In such a case, I technically recommend a LA of +0, but the resulting monster will probably be weaker than a comparable PC of the same ECL. Consider asking your DM to strengthen the monster somehow to make it more appropriate as a PC. At lower optimization levels, creatures with this LA may be more balanced: use your own discretion.
Some monsters and templates may be marked with an asterisk. In such a case, the rated material has abilities that are not simply strong, but entirely game-breaking. Examples include an efreeti's ability to grant essentially unlimited free Wishes, or a nightmare's ability to use ridiculously powerful high-level spells at-will at a very low ECL.
In such a case, no LA is going to make these monsters truly balanced, with the resulting PCs being either one-trick ponies or overpowered abominations. Instead, they will be rated as if they didn't possess the offending ability, with the asterisk indicating the actual statblock cannot be rated properly. Anyone wanting to play these creatures is advised to simply do away with the ability in question.
Regarding item slots: we are operating under the assumption that monsters with unconventional body shapes may lack one or more item slots, as suggested by MIC page 219. Amorphous creatures do not have body slots at all, while headless/armless/legless/etc beings lack the slots associated with the limbs they don't have. The only exceptions to this are creatures that are specifically stated to have different slots, like some of the beings in Lords of Madness.
If a monster normally has less than three Intelligence (such as animals or mindless creatures), we assume the creature somehow manages to get to at least three Intelligence, as that is the minimum for sentience in D&D 3.5e. Because the specific method(s) used may affect its other stats, we have no default method for doing this and just assume that part is handled at the individual tables.
"Do not bring up Freedom of Movement when rating a grappler." - AKA Most things will have some ability that something is immune to. We rate for general usefulness, not how it deals with things that specifically shut it down.
Some creatures in this archive are from 3.0 with no official conversion. There will likely be some oddities that you wish to handle at your specific table. such creatures are marked on their specific pages.
Spoiler: IndexSpoiler: Monster ManualsMonster Manual:
Creatures (1)
Creatures (2)
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Monster Manual III:
Creatures and templates
"Monster Manual VI", an unofficial collection of online material
Creatures and templates - IN PROGRESS
Spoiler: OtherDungeon Master's Guide II
"NPC Unique Abilities"
Expanded Psionic's Handbook
Creatures and templates
Fiend Folio
Creatures and templates
Heroes of Horror
Creatures and templates
Libris Mortis
Creatures and templates
Tome of Battle:
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Spoiler: AnimalsMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Ape +1 5 Baboon +0 1 Badger +1 2 Bat +0 1 Bear, Black +0 3 Bear, Brown -0 6 Bear, Polar -0 6 Bison -0 5 Boar -0 3 Camel +0 3 Cat +0 1 Cheetah +0 3 Crocodile +0 3 Crocodile, Giant -0 7 Dog +0 1 Dog, Riding -0 2 Donkey -0 2 Eagle +0 1 Elephant -0 11 Hawk +0 1 Horse, Heavy -0 3 Horse, Light -0 3 Horse, Heavy Warhorse -0 4 Horse, Light Warhorse -0 3 Hyena -0 2 Leopard +0 3 Lion +0 5 Lizard -0 1 Lizard, Monitor -0 3 Manta Ray -0 4 Monkey +0 1 Mule -0 3 Octopus +0 2 Octopus, Giant -0 8 Owl +0 1 Pony -0 2 Pony, War -0 2 Porpoise -0 2 Rat +0 1 Raven +0 1 Rhinoceros -0 8 Shark, Medium -0 3 Shark, Large -0 7 Shark, Huge -0 10 Snake, Constrictor -0 3 Snake, Giant Constrictor -0 11 Snake, Tiny Viper +0 1 Snake, Small Viper +0 1 Snake, Medium Viper -0 2 Snake, Large Viper -0 3 Snake, Huge Viper -0 6 Squid -0 3 Squid, Giant -0 12 Tiger +0 6 Toad -0 1 Weasel -0 1 Whale, Baleen -0 12 Whale, Chachacha -0 12 Whale, Orca -0 9 Wolf -0 2 Wolverine +0 3
Spoiler: VerminMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Giant Ant, Worker -0 2 Giant Ant, Soldier -0 2 Giant Ant, Queen -0 4 Giant Bee -0 3 Giant Bombardier Beetle -0 2 Giant Fire Beetle -0 1 Giant Stag Beetle -0 7 Giant Praying Mantis -0 4 Giant Wasp -0 5 Monstrous Centipedes -0 1-24 Monstrous Scorpion (Tiny and Small) +0 1 Monstrous Scorpion (Medium and larger) -0 2-40 Monstrous Spider (Tiny and Small) +0 1 Monstrous Spider (Medium and larger) -0 2-32 Last edited by Debatra; 2022-02-02 at 10:09 PM.
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Celestial +1 Fiendish +1 Ghost +3/+4 Half-Celestial +3 Half-Dragon +2 Half-Fiend +3 Lich +2 Lycanthrope +1 Skeleton +1/+0/-0 Vampire +3* Zombie -0 Kaedanis Pyran, tai faernae.
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Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Naityan Rakshasa +0 9 Reth Dekala +1 6 Valkyrie +2 12 Kaedanis Pyran, tai faernae.
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Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Bane Wraith +0* 8 Bloodrot -0* 10 Bog Imp +0 4 Boneleaf -0* 7 Corruption Eater -0 15 Small Taint Elemental +0 2 Medium Taint Elemental +0 4 Large Taint Elemental -0 8 Huge Taint Elemental -0 16 Greater Taint Elemental -0 21 Elder Taint Elemental -0 24 Least Dusk Giant -0* 6 Lesser Dusk Giant -0* 12 Greater Dusk Giant -0* 18 Golem, Cadaver +0 10 Gray Jester +0 8 Phantasmal Slayer -0 16
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Living Spell Indeterminate Spellwarped +2 Topiary Guardian -0 Voidmind +2* Woodling +1 Last edited by Debatra; 2023-02-28 at 05:36 PM.
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Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Aboleth, Psionic +1 9 Astral Construct, 1st-level +1 2 Astral Construct, 2nd-level +0 2 Astral Construct, other -0 3-19 Blue +0 1 Brain Mole -0 1 Caller in Darkness -0 11 Cerebrilith +1 10 Couatl, Psionic +3 12 Crysmal -0 6 Dromite +0 1 Duergar, Psionic +1 2 Elan +0 1 Fogulub -0 4 Githyanki, Psionic +1 2 Githzerai, Psionic +1 2 Gray Glutton +0 9 Half-Giant +1 2 Intellect Devourer +1 7 Maenad +0 1 Mind Flayer, Psionic +3 11 Neothelid -0 25 Phthisic +1 7 Psicrystal -0/+0 1 Psion-Killer -0 15 Puppeteer +2 3 Puppeteer, Flesh Harrower +0 3 Temporal Filcher -0 8 Thought Eater -0* 3 Thought Slayer -0* 14 Thri-Kreen +1 3 Udoroot -0 6 Unbodied +3 7 Xeph +0 1 Yuan-Ti Pureblood, Psionic -0 4 Yuan-Ti Halfblood, Psionic -0 7 Yuan-Ti Abomination, Psionic +0 9
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Half-Fey +2 Half-Illithid +2 Half-Troll +2 Huecuva +1 Swordwraith +1 Ti-Khana +1 Wendigo +2 Yellow Musk Zombie -0*
Spoiler: SymbiontsMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Cerebral, Cerebral Hood +1 3 Cerebral, Mind Leech +3 3 Cerebral, Psionic Sinew +0 2 Fiendish, Fiendish Familiar +0* 1 Fiendish, Gutworm -0* 1 Fiendish, Soul Tick +1 2 Fiendish, Ghostly Visage +3 4 Last edited by Debatra; 2023-02-28 at 05:38 PM.
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Spoiler: CreaturesMonster Name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Angel of Decay -0 26 Atropal Scion +1* 10 Blaspheme -0 18 Bleakborn +0* 8 Blood Amniote -0* 10 Bloodmote Cloud -0 10 Bone Rat Swarm -0 4 Boneyard +0 17 Brain in a Jar +1 4 Carcass Eater +1 2 Cinderspawn -0 10 Corpse Rat Swarm -0 8 Crypt Chanter +1* 7 Deathlock -0 3 Desiccator -0 4 Dire Maggot -0 6 Deam Vestige +0* 17 Entomber +0 8 Entropic Reaper -0 19 Forsaken Shell -0* 14 Golem, Gravedirt -0* 11 Golem, Tombstone -0 14 Hulking Corpse -0 20 Murk +0* 3 Plague Blight +2 8 Quell -0 5 Raiment +0 3 Skin Kite +0* 4 Skirr +0 9 Skulking Cyst +0 4 Slaughter Wight -0* 18 Slaymate +0 4 Spectral Lyrist +0* 6 Tomb Mote +2 5 Visage -0 12 Void Wraith -0 6 Wheep +1 10
Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate Name Estimated LA Evolved Undead +1 for each odd-numbered iteration Ghost Brute +1 Gravetouched Ghoul +2 Half-Vampire +1 Hooded Pupil +1 Mummified Creature +2 Necromental +0* Necropolitan +0 Revived Fossil +2 Swarm-Shifter +1, or +2 if applied multiple times (regardless of how many). Umbral Creature +2*
Spoiler: Variants of Other CreaturesAll within one post.
After some discussion, it was determined that the vast majority of these variants aren't enough to warrant an LA increase on their own. That said, assigning them all +0 would mean most could be stacked to something that would be. Therefore, with the following exceptions, each of the Libris Mortis undead variants is worth an effective +0.5 LA, so +1 for each two you have.
Variant Name Estimated LA Lich, Good +1 Vampire, Moonbane -0 (This is the one straight downgrade in the chapter.) Zombie, Fast +1 Last edited by Debatra; 2022-05-17 at 10:29 AM.
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Spoiler: NPC Unique AbilitiesAbility Name Estimated LA Aberrant Limbs +1 Abysmally Wretched +1 Arcane Adept +1 Divinity +1 Doomwatcher +1 Dragontouched +1 Fey Spirit +1 Graced From Outside +1 Gravetouched +1 Guardian Spirit +1 Lifemate +0/+1 Naturebond +2 Past Life See Post Poisonlaced +1 Prodigy +1 Prophet +1 Spore Carrier +1 Stormtouched +1 Unearthly Beauty +1 Vestigal Twin +2 Kaedanis Pyran, tai faernae.
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Monster Manual VI is Thurbane's unofficial collection of all the web enhancements for 3.5e over the years, in one handy index.
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate Name Estimated LA Acheri (Variant Ghost) +3 Ba'traa +1 Blood Ghoul +1* Bloodstained +1 Chosen of Deneir +4 Disembodied Spirit -0 Drider +2 Entomanothrope +1 on top of added RHD Frenzy Dog -0* TBD Last edited by Debatra; 2024-04-05 at 04:33 PM.
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