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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    And two tigers in the Ft Wayne zoo are COVID positive. Are we going to need to vaccinate every animal as well?
    Are you serious?
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    Now is probably a good tiem to remember that COVID-19 originally passed over from an animal of some sort. Which one we don't know and without going into what unfortunately is going to be politics, we are not going to be finding out either due to challenges with the investigation.

    The virus already jumped from an animal to humans, jumping back, or other animals etc etc etc is no surprise at all. In fact, just wait for the fun mutantviruses coming back from a sojourn in... let's say birds. Corona fueled by avian HxNx strains. Good times. Good times. If I was playing Plague Inc at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farothel View Post
    There have been reports of cats getting infected, but as far as I know they can get it but they don't pass it on. Now minks are a different case. They seem to be able to pass it on, which is why at least in the Netherlands and Denmark they've been closing mink farms.
    And culling mink. Which, apparently, is fun in winter.
    May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    And culling mink. Which, apparently, is fun in winter.
    That's more or less when you would be doing it anyway. The added fun here is mostly they can't even recover the furs so it's a total economic loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    That's more or less when you would be doing it anyway. The added fun here is mostly they can't even recover the furs so it's a total economic loss.
    Just one more in a long string of TELs from COVID.

    So many places locally, non-chain, are doing cost cutting stuff. Replacing basic ingredients, going for cheaper foodstuffs (bulk white rice instead of angel hair pasta)... can already count on two hands places I used to go that have closed down this year. And this is a small area, so the repercussions will last for a while.

    And yet, so many anti-maskers and anti-vaccine people...
    May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.

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    Well, I'm on the list to take the COVID Vaccination that my job put me on yesterday. I'm so excited.
    It's time to get my Magikarp on!

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    Default Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II

    Unfortunately, the malicious and the idiotic will always be with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Well, I'm on the list to take the COVID Vaccination that my job put me on yesterday. I'm so excited.
    Congratulations!

    Remember to keep up the precautions even after both doses. You won't be completely out of the woods until a bunch of people around you have also gotten theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    Congratulations!

    Remember to keep up the precautions even after both doses. You won't be completely out of the woods until a bunch of people around you have also gotten theirs.
    Both doses? I thought it was one dose and that's it.
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    Default Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II

    Only if you're getting the Johnson and Johnson version. The others are both one-two punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Only if you're getting the Johnson and Johnson version. The others are both one-two punches.
    Ok. I didn't know there will be two doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Ok. I didn't know there will be two doses.
    The first dose I believe is about 60% effective, and the second dose brings that to over 95%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Explorer View Post
    The first dose I believe is about 60% effective, and the second dose brings that to over 95%.
    Interesting. I can live with two doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Explorer View Post
    The first dose I believe is about 60% effective, and the second dose brings that to over 95%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Interesting. I can live with two doses.
    Keep in mind, that's "on average". Even vaccinated it's a good idea to keep on to restrictions and be careful. While it says 95% that's several people with 100, some with 70, a few unlucky people with 30 or 0. And you don't know which of those you are until it's too late. Only when a significant portion of the populace is vaccinated are we going to get close to that 95% on average. So don't go licking the subway handlebars just yet. Vaccination or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Explorer View Post
    The first dose I believe is about 60% effective, and the second dose brings that to over 95%.
    For the Pfizer/BioNTech. Moderna has a higher initial protective effect (85-90%, IIRC). Both are close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades on the second.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Interesting. I can live with two doses.
    Yeah, but keep in mind that the second dose may have some ... interesting results. Since the Moderna vaccine is the only one locally, can't talk about the Pfizer side-effects after the second except anecdotally.

    When I got mine, my temperature soared to around 103F / 39.4C the next day. And I felt like I got thrown from a moving car at highway speeds. So plan accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Only if you're getting the Johnson and Johnson version. The others are both one-two punches.
    J&J version doesn't confer the same level of immunity as the other two, however. It's probably, at best, 75%. Good enough, but still a greater risk as the other two.
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    I know someone who works in HR for a local health care system where pretty much all of the willing employees have been vaccinated. They said that about a third of the people went home early the day they got the 2nd shot (if they got it in the morning) and/or were calling in absent the next day, but then were able to be back at work. So figure about a 1 in 3 chance that the 2nd dose makes you feel miserable for 24-36 hours. Also, general soreness in the arm near the shot is very common. On the plus side, they haven't seen any serious reactions for the employees or for the thousands of (mostly elderly) other people who've been vaccinated.

    edit to add: these results seemed to hold regardless of whether it was the Pfizer vaccine or the Moderna vaccine. I haven't heard anything yet about the J&J one.
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    Default Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II

    That's because they're still working on the approval. I expect we'll get more details once they have the hearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    That's because they're still working on the approval. I expect we'll get more details once they have the hearing.
    No need.

    Interim Results of a Phase 1–2a Trial of Ad26.COV2.S Covid-19 Vaccine, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, has those details.

    The younger group had these:

    About 40% became tired.
    About 40% got headaches
    About 40% said things hurt a bit.
    About 20% got nauseous.
    A little under 20% got a fever to varying degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    Keep in mind, that's "on average". Even vaccinated it's a good idea to keep on to restrictions and be careful. While it says 95% that's several people with 100, some with 70, a few unlucky people with 30 or 0. And you don't know which of those you are until it's too late. Only when a significant portion of the populace is vaccinated are we going to get close to that 95% on average. So don't go licking the subway handlebars just yet. Vaccination or not.
    I don't lick subway handlebars and I can tell that you were joking.

    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    Yeah, but keep in mind that the second dose may have some ... interesting results. Since the Moderna vaccine is the only one locally, can't talk about the Pfizer side-effects after the second except anecdotally.

    When I got mine, my temperature soared to around 103F / 39.4C the next day. And I felt like I got thrown from a moving car at highway speeds. So plan accordingly.
    How is having a fever an interesting result?
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    Because it's easily handled. Violent nausea, on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Because it's easily handled. Violent nausea, on the other hand...
    Exactly. It's just one of those 'yeah, but ...' reactions.

    Fortunately, paying homage to the Exorcist wasn't on my list of reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    I don't lick subway handlebars and I can tell that you were joking.
    I think it was also a reference to some guy that actually licked subway handlebars in the start of the pandemic, I think that in some western country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akma View Post
    I think it was also a reference to some guy that actually licked subway handlebars in the start of the pandemic, I think that in some western country.
    Whatever the case, I'm not him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akma View Post
    I think it was also a reference to some guy that actually licked subway handlebars in the start of the pandemic, I think that in some western country.
    There were a few. Here's the four notables:

    First one did not lick the handlebars directly. He licked his fingers, then smeared the handlebar. This was in Belgium.

    Second, and more crazy person, was in Munich. Guy was 'trying to spread coronavirus' and licked ticket machines, handrails of both the subway and escalator.

    Third was in Boston. Just found the subway car 'tasty'.

    Fourth was a guy in New York, and he said he was using a fake tongue to 'lick' the bars for a YouTube prank.
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    I took the COVID Vaccine today at Queens.

    Part 2 is coming in the next 4 weeks.
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    Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Congratulations!
    Thank you. At the same time, I bump into a childhood school student who used to go to my childhood school today.
    It's time to get my Magikarp on!

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    Default Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II

    So a day for both the future and the past. Does that mean you deserve a present?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    So a day for both the future and the past. Does that mean you deserve a present?
    The present is already happening as we speak.
    It's time to get my Magikarp on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    The present is already happening as we speak.
    But the present is now the past, and the future is now.
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