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2021-01-27, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2021-01-27, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
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2021-01-27, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
Plenty of them. Most have been named already.
I don't remember anything about Gully Dwarves resulting from crossbreeding in the main books. Actually I don't remember it ever going into the origin of Gully Dwarves.
In any case, the Gully Dwarves are considered their own clan for basically all of Dwarven history. And there's other examples of crossbred dwarves who are nothing like Gully Dwarves (for example Sequest), so if you do have a source saying that's where they come from, it is demonstratively wrong.
He gets an entire tower of magic and is one of head mages of magic on the continent.Spoiler: I'm a writer!Spoiler: Check out my fanfiction[URL="https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7493788/Forum-Explorer"here[/URL]
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Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2021-01-27, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
Not sure who Sequest is; can't find any reference to that name anywhere.
That being said:
Originally Posted by Dragonlance Adventures (1E)Originally Posted by Tales of the Lance (2E)Originally Posted by Dragonlance Campaign Setting (3E)
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2021-01-27, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
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]Fate Stay Nano: Fate Stay Night x Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha
I Fell in Love with a Storm: MLP
Procrastination: MLP
Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2021-01-27, 08:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
So he's half-dwarf and half...dwarf? That just makes him a dwarf. Which book is he from?
And sorry to break it to you, but those three books I listed all have Weis' and Hickman's names on them (except the 3E one, which only lists Weis as an author).
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2021-01-27, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
The Doom Brigade.
That proves nothing, considering that Dragonlance is written by a team of people, and Weis and Hickman don't have the final say on what goes out to print. They only control what parts they personally write. And considering that it never makes it into any of their other work, and that it keeps changing and that it doesn't really make any sense in the first place, I'm disinclined to believe that it is something they intend to be part of the setting.Spoiler: I'm a writer!Spoiler: Check out my fanfiction[URL="https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7493788/Forum-Explorer"here[/URL]
]Fate Stay Nano: Fate Stay Night x Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha
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Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2021-01-27, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ahhh, okay, you're talking about Selquist. Yeah, he's not a half-dwarf, he's just a dwarf. That's like saying someone who's Solamnic on their mother's side and Ergothian on their father's side is half-human.
And you can believe whatever you want, but your argument makes no sense. Do you really think Weis and Hickman have 100% creative control of the novels but not the sourcebooks? On the 1st Edition version (Dragonlance Adventures), not only is Weis' and Hickman's names on the cover, but the book's dedication is to Hickman's wife, Laura (it reads, "To Laura Curtis Hickman, my wife, for whom worlds were created.")
You can limit 'canon' to things only specifically spelled out in the original novels, if you want, but that means most of the gods don't exist (Majere, Zivilyn, Hiddukel, to name a few), as well as a number of races (like the phaethons, ursoi, and kyrie, among others), and several nations, as well (not to mention the entire continent of Taladas).Last edited by JadedDM; 2021-01-27 at 09:16 PM.
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2021-01-27, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
I mean sure, but he also gets some gaping chest wounds that never heal, which is worse than the other heads of the black robed order got, and the tower itself is sort of small consolation given that as head of the black robes, he would have access to similar resources in the other tower.
Maybe ive just missed some books, but its really unclear what he actually got from studying under Raistlen as opposed to any other black robed archmage.“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2021-01-27, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-27, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
Sure sure, but until you went into more detail I didn't even think they had anything on Half-dwarves.
No, I acknowledge they don't have 100% control over their novels either. This thread started off with people talking about how their editors forced them to take things out. There are even things that are explicitly not their work in those novels. They do however have more control over it, and Weis and Hickman do a really good job of slipping background information into the main story. Even if you've only ever read the main trilogies, you'd know that kender were creating by the Greygem for example.
Also yes, all of those Gods do get an appearance during the War of Souls and I think you can find references to their constellations in other trilogies as well.
While Gully Dwarf pasts have been talked about, they've always been talked about as if they were always just dwarves. No character in canon, nor in the author comments I've read, have said that Gully Dwarves are a crossbreed, even when explicitly talking about the past of Gully Dwarves. As far as I'm aware, that's unique to the RPG books and them alone.
But the biggest thing is that it doesn't even make sense. Half-elves are incredibly rare, so much so they couldn't fill a city with their numbers and most half-elves go through their life never meeting another half-elf. Gully Dwarves are relatively common. There are entire cities of them, they can field military divisions, and their clans can be found all around the world. The idea that they are half-dwarves are ridiculous when you compare them to half-elves, which are formed from much less isolationist species than dwarves.
Well Dalamar has been studying for a remarkably short time compared to other wizards. He's pretty young compared to the other black robed archmages we see.Spoiler: I'm a writer!Spoiler: Check out my fanfiction[URL="https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7493788/Forum-Explorer"here[/URL]
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Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2021-01-27, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
As far as gully dwarves go, i believe the idea of them being a crossbreed is in-universe speculation, and that the actual origin is unknown. Worth noting is that dwarves will absolutely deny any relation to gully dwarves to non-dwarves, but their internal politics still have a seat for the Aghar clan on the council and in their militaries.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2021-01-27, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-01-27, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Huh, I wonder how that got in my pouch? New Dragonlance is happening!
Hickman (and later Weis) were on the Dragonlance team at TSR who collaboratively came up with the Dragonlance modules that the books were based off of. It wasn't 100% their creation and they certainly didn't have 100% control of the novels or RPG material. I actually got to meet Hickman in the early 90's and some of the directions Dragonlance had been taken in even back then didn't sit well with him.
Those gods as well as other canon details actually predate the novels. They were part of the source material for the world created by the Dragonlance team. They were first published in, I believe, sourcebook DL5 Dragons of Mystery, which has Hickman & Weis' name on it as well as the other members of the team. Don't recall if DL5 came out before or after Dragons of Autumn Twilight. The races you mention all appear in the original modules as well if I recall.
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2021-01-27, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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