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2021-03-08, 09:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-03-08, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Looks like Serini has been keeping an eye on basically everything that's been going on. Wonder what she knows about the Order, at this point?
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2021-03-08, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
I did not know I wanted an art upgrade to the Azure City throne room fight until now.
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2021-03-08, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
That was insanely specific. Did Dorukan or Girard have some sort of super-scry set up? Or is it just a coincidence that Miko used his sword?
I'm getting a better handle on Serini now, it feels like a more organic conflict. Will be interesting when the Order gets mentioned."They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2021-03-08, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
"They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2021-03-08, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Sounds like she definitely has access to scrying and divinations.
But it also sounds like she doesn't have the full information. It sounds like she thinks Xykon is the true threat, when he's not. She doesn't have the information on Hel, or the Dark One.
Cause with Hel's bet, there's no way O'Chul would break the gate. Breaking the gate at this instance has the same effect of Xykon and Redcloak taking the gate; the gods destroy the world and start over.
There is more at stake than Serini realizes.
The question is, do the paladin's know about Hel's gambit? And the godsmoot and the Dark One?
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2021-03-08, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Serini makes a very sensible point, not just about the paladins, but also the Order. When it comes to preventing Redcloak from taking control of the multivese, or the Snarl from destroying everything, losing the planet may be a better fate.
Then again, considering they may be dooming billions of future planets to destruction by Snarl in the process, that is still a pretty crappy solution compared to actually getting the deal with Redcloak. But neither the paladins nor Serini know that, and when it comes to the battle, they still may prefer that fate over Xykon or Redcloak winning.
So it's impossible to guarantee nobody will want to destroy the gate. The question now is what plan does Serini have in place of that
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2021-03-08, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
I’d like to say maybe this will shut up arguements about Serini being evil but I’ve been here far too long to expect that, maybe it will slow down though.
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2021-03-08, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Good for Serini, 'no intention' is indeed the kind of thing people say to indicate they should not be trusted.
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2021-03-08, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm starting to really like Serini.
Admittedly, taking the mickey from paladins is like shooting fish in a barrel, but still.
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2021-03-08, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Somehow, Serini reminds me of Yoda, more so in this strip.
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2021-03-08, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Wonder how Serini is getting her information?
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2021-03-08, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Well Roy sounds like he's made the opposite determination O-Chul did in the throne room. He knows this is for keeps, so will strive to avoid being put in that situation. But then the question is how anyone can possibly prove that? By proving they can beat Xykon, I guess.
"They couldn't know that the points from the mainline to the siding were frozen, and the signal should have been set at 'DANGER', but snow had forced it down."
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2021-03-08, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
What a schock that Serini had sensible reasons to capture the paladins and was not in fact evil.
Anyways this indicate that Serini will treat the Order much in the same way that she is treating Lien and O-Chul since they are responsible for the destruction of two gates.Last edited by fuschiawarrior; 2021-03-08 at 09:32 AM.
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2021-03-08, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Her take seems very similar to Xykon, when he said that he didn't want to destroy the world, only to dominate it. And she seems to prefer that, and not without a reason: a world dominated by Xykon is still a world where Xykon can be beaten, or where people can maybe hide out of his reach. Hell, Xykon and RC are so powerful that to some extent they could already dominate their own country.
One might wonder if she knows that RC true plan is to give the Gate to the DO. But, if she knows, well, mostly the DO wants to renegotiate the goblinoids' place in the world.
So, yes, if X and RC can't be stopped, it makes sense to at least NOT destroying the gates.
Edit: and I see I've been ninjaed by Ninja Dragon (quite ironic!) on this point.Last edited by Dr.Zero; 2021-03-08 at 09:30 AM.
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2021-03-08, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
It's stuff like this why I say bonking paladins is good thing just on general principle.
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2021-03-08, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
nice corner you got that paladin in to
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2021-03-08, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
In another thread, I opined that the whole of War and XP in the new art style would please me to no end. But that's not happening.
It also indicates that she, like Girard, salivates like Pavlov's dog when presented with a Paladin even though her style is different.
There is more at stake than Serini realizes.
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Sensible from her point of view, and considering what she does know, but not what she doesn't.
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2021-03-08, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
So she's aware of the fight at Azure City, and totally unaware of the Godsmoot?
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2021-03-08, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-08, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-03-08, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
Nope
She missed the Godsmoot
Since, unless I'm totally missing the boat, the Gods will be destroying the world if Xykon gets near to controlling it.
The Paladins are a possibility of doom, failure to stop Xykon is a certainty.
No?
I think more people are aware of what happened at the Godsmoot, than are aware of how the Azure City Gate was destroyed.
I also find it amusing that Girard had a serious stick up his backside about "each of us will leave the other alone", and here Sirini was clearly violating that ruleLast edited by GregTD; 2021-03-08 at 01:14 PM.
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2021-03-08, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
As are the vast majority of people in OoTS land. (Wrecan's point on the secret mission)
The Paladins are a possibility of doom, failure to stop Xykon is a certainty.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2021-03-08 at 09:41 AM.
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2021-03-08, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
It is an interesting question: whether or not it's better to let Xykon take control of the final Gate or to blow it up. Clearly, Serini takes the former stance, but I'm not (and I don't think anyone should be) entirely sure she has the right of it. It seems like she does not know much about Redcloak's intentions here and I wonder if that would change her thoughts. The main issue is no one really knows what will happen when the last gate is destroyed. Will the Snarl immediately break loose? It seemed content to chill when the rifts were originally opening, but there's clearly something lurking in the Western gate.
Of course, this will all be moot if the Order destroys the Gate anyway while Serini's distracted.
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
That throne room was protected from scrying by a spell powerful enough to keep Xykon from looking inside, yet Serini seems to know what happened there.I wonder how she got that information.
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2021-03-08, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
A bit confused - is everyone else reading this as Serini having scryed the Azure City events? Because until I came here, I saw this as O-Chul's flashback, reminding us of why he can't take the oath as first offered?
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2021-03-08, 09:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1228 - The Discussion Thread
But the event of the Godsmoot makes it even more important not to destroy the Gate. As stated by Roy 4 strips ago.
Serini seems to know already that breaking the Gates is a bad idea. I don't get why she seems to think that "cease to exist" (last panel of previous book) is a better option though. Since it would mean that the Snarl got free and destroyed everything.Posting from France
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