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2021-02-01, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
You might hear stories about people getting stuffed in their locker and if you search the internet you find both people with personal experience with it and programs for teachers to deal with it.
This rises the question: "What do students need lockers the size of a student for?"
As a student who has gone his entire schooling life without using his locker he would have never fit in(, because of the grounded fear of forgetting things not attached to their body.) I might have a skewed view of how lockers work, but I thought based on how it worked in my school that
a. students only put the things in their locker that they're using until the next break(the major selling point)
b. Even the entire rack of things I needed as a student for one year didn't take the same amount of space as me.
If it is to give room for organization, why don't schools install trays to help with the organisation and avoid kids getting stuffed in.
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2021-02-01, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-01, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
When I was in highschool we had lockers about the size of a backpack which made sense since it we only used them to store our backpacks during lunch break. Of course they were still big enough for the youngest of us to fit inside provided they folded themselves (hugging their knees and all). Then again, this was kind of a moot point since people apparently went around ripping the doors of the closets off their hinges.
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2021-02-01, 11:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
The lockers are sized for things like raincoats and are basically a holdover from another time when people actually wore raincoats.
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2021-02-01, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
I am going to assume that a locker tends to be made under the assumption that a student may need a backpack, books, lunch, outdoor inclement weather gear, a musical instrument (if they are in band or the like), along with stuff like changes of clothes for athletic activities (presumably if they are on something like the football or nordic skiing teams, where they have bulky specialized equipment, that stuff will be stored by the athletic department somehow). I'm sure there could be some configuration where it would be easy to store all of this, but hard to fit a small (most likely to be bullied) student into it, but I doubt it would be convenient (from an access, space-used, and construction perspectives).
Moreover, I think the number of students who actually get shoved into lockers is significantly lower than the cultural meme it has become suggests. It's one of those things (giving someone a swirly being another example) that is significantly more easily done in a comic or tv show than it is in real life. People flail, people yell and scream. Perhaps most importantly, if you ______ (something else) another student, you just say, 'no I didn't, that never happened.' If you stuff someone in a locker, the teachers darn well know that someone actually did it (since they find the student stuffed in the locker), and the only defense is 'well it wasn't me.' In my experience (which I recognize is not universal), what really happens a lot is the more convenient things like bullies calling the bullied names, throwing food at them, tripping or pushing them, or even punching/hitting them. I think that's the primary reason for the lockers as they are -- kids being stuffed into them simply isn't a major issue, even within the topic of student-on-student bullying, and as such isn't a major decision factor in how schools are built/furnished.
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2021-02-01, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
My secondary school only had lockers for the younger years, and then only if you rented them. They were mainly for storing stuff you wouldn't take home, and were about the size of a backpack.
Thinking back now, I can't clearly remember how bags were dealt with on breaks, in primary school you left them at your seat in the classroom, because IME primary schools assigned one teacher and one classroom per class with very occasional cases of swapping teachers for certain subjects.
But in secondary school I think we just kept them with us during break and dropped them if we were to playsportsfootball. Being somebody who never joined in with the games I believe I just wore my bag throughout break unless I was in the library, then when break finished you just went straight to the classroom and pulled your materials out.
If you brought a coat or PE kit you pretty much had to carry it around all day, and as everybody did that there wasn't any major problem with it.
Note that we also didn't shower after PE, while at least some of the changing rooms had showers (in secondary school) there was never the time or requirement to use them. We must have stunk up classrooms after having PE.
Now it might have mattered somewhat that my school had a 'campus' layout where every subject area had a dedicated building instead of being one building with lots of classrooms, so the lack of a central point that worked no matter if you were Doing maths or English might have been more of a factor than it being a UK school.If the lockers were at the main hall you'd lose five minutes stowing stuff after English and would have to cut your break short five minutes before the lesson.
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2021-02-02, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
My lockers in middle school were just barely big enough to fit a backpack, so even child-sized, you couldn't fit a person in there.
High school lockers were tall enough, but not really deep enough, and had shelves. You could fit a coat and some books, but not a person. They'd have to crouch in order to get under the shelves, and by that point, their knees would be poking out so much, the door wouldn't shut, so it wasn't really possible.
Now, the musical instrument lockers in the band room are another story. You can absolutely fit people in those things. In the largest sized ones, where you would normally store things like bass drums and sousaphones, you could comfortably seat two people, and we often did (willingly). They were surprisingly comfortable. The doors were also more wiry, so it looked more like a pet cage than a locker door, so if you somehow did get locked in, you could just reach through the bars and turn the lock yourself.
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2021-02-02, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
I was a self-deprecating bully and tried to stuff myself into my own locker, but it was too small. Got some good scrapes from the metal edges, though. Stupid nerd. Big jerk.
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2021-02-02, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-02, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
Lol! We did that too! Took the kids about 4 days into starting in the new school that even with a plastic coathanger you could bent them up backwards. Only the very endmost lockers were safe as thy had no leverage you could apply.
The cool kids naturally removed their locker doors completely.
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2021-02-03, 02:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
This might well be a time thing. My high school lockers were absolutely large enough to fit a person inside as long as that person wasn't super-wide, but it was built in the 20s and abandoned for about 20 years before reopening. Most of the other schools I visited had much smaller lockers that were only half-as high (to squeeze more in for the significantly larger student body).
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2021-02-04, 06:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-05, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-05, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 05:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
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2021-02-06, 05:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 06:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-06, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
We didn't have lockers at school and I believe most schools in Belgium don't have lockers. We just hung our coats on hangers in the hallway (just outside the class) and took everything we needed in a backpack in class. At least in highschool. In primary school we kept things in our benches (in the old days we still had benches with storage space in them).
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2021-02-08, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-02-12, 02:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
Dang, your school got the good lockers.
My high school had slightly-smaller-than-a-backpack-sized lockers, stacked on top of each other, ensuring that we had to carry our three or four heavy textbooks with us everywhere we went! And I, the 6'2" guy, was naturally assigned a locker on the very bottom row.The Everyman's Guide to Taking Up Arms - A Guide to Fighters
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2021-02-12, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
You didn't swap with somebody of petite dimensions who got a top locker?
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2021-02-12, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
Guessing they were 'not allowed to.' Having a teenage nephew who is going to my HS alma mater is reminding me just how little autonomy teens often have. Probably not a bad thing, either, since if the person you swapped with had some kind of contraband in the locker, and it was found, but the locker was assigned to you...
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2021-02-12, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
I always thought it was only a Hollywood trope!
So, you're saying there are actually lockers that are teen-sized? Then I'd say it's mostly because people complained of being stuffed into lockers that were too small.
What I have seen in our country is either lockers the size of pre-school children or cages.
The cages were fun - especially when a class of 20 tried to fit in and get changed to go out as fast as possible. You ended up sitting on people, standing on one leg (which was not yours), and other fun stuff.
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Spoiler: Cages
Once we got into high/secondary school, there were no lockers or anything. You just had coat hangers and were supposed to keep stuff in backpack.
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2021-02-12, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why do schools have lockers the size of a student?
Wouldn't work in my old school. Our lockers didn't even have locks or doors that'd stay latched, so no real expectation that anything in there was placed by you as opposed to Random Student #1234. Now, they don't even have lockers.