DataNinja's Scintillating Digital Random Banter #231

[halfeye]

It felt weird when I got praised for how realistic my OC's racist piece of trash aunt was when I was aiming for "cartoonish and over the top."

That's not a criticism of your writing.

[Rater202]

That's not a criticism of your writing.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that it didn't feel weird.

Unrelated: Munster cheese and Italian-style roast beef(from a deli) fried in soybean oil is a good sandwich.

[enderlord99]

I still don't understand why the French spell a word "hors d'oeuvre" but pronounce it "o durv"

Not only is "hors" ¾ silent, but "d'oeuvre" has the v and r swapped between the spelling and pronunciation.

[Fyraltari]

I still don't understand why the French spell a word "hors d'oeuvre" but pronounce it "o durv"

That's because we don't.

Not only is "hors" ¾ silent, but "d'oeuvre" has the v and r swapped between the spelling and pronunciation.

Wrong, the "h" and "s" of hors are silent, but not the "r". The "v" and "r" of œuvre are not swapped either. We don't swap letters when pronouncing words, that's an English-speaker thing.

[Peelee]

That's because we don't.



Wrong, the "h" and "s" of hors are silent, but not the "r". The "v" and "r" of œuvre are not swapped either. We don't swap letters when pronouncing words, that's an English-speaker thing.

Frankly, I think most European languages had the right idea to use diacritics to denote when a letter should be pronounced differently. But then some just had to go overboard on silent letters, and not even have the courtesy to denote them!

[Anonymouswizard]

To be fair, I believe that must silent letters aren't so much silent as modifying the pronunciation of other letters.

Except in English. I've got no clue how English works.

[Fyraltari]

Frankly, I think most European languages had the right idea to use diacritics to denote when a letter should be pronounced differently. But then some just had to go overboard on silent letters, and not even have the courtesy to denote them!

I know, right? Get your act together, Welsh!

To be fair, I believe that must silent letters aren't so much silent as modifying the pronunciation of other letters.)

When ot comes to French it's more a 50/50 split.
Edit: to be clear, what you are referring to are called digrams and they're very common in French. It should also be noted that a lot of "e" aren't silent but are actually schwas which is pretty hard to tell from a silent letter if you don't have the ear for it.

Except in English. I've got no clue how English works.

It mostly doesn't, really.

[enderlord99]

Google pronounced it "o'O!-darva" except with the "r" and "v" somehow coming out at the exact same time. I don't know how someone's supposed to do that without being a computer.

[Fyraltari]

Google pronounced it "o'O!-darva" except with the "r" and "v" somehow coming out at the exact same time. I don't know how someone's supposed to do that without being a computer.

I think that's the computer trying to read it as if it were an English word, it certainly is not how it is pronounced in French.

Edit: try having it be translated to French and then hitting the sound button under the French box, that should give you the correct (standard French) pronounciation.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Google screwing up how something is pronounced? Excuse me while I go find my shocked face.

[enderlord99]

I think that's the computer trying to read it as if it were an English word, it certainly is not how it is pronounced in French.

Edit: try having it be translated to French and then hitting the sound button under the French box, that should give you the correct (standard French) pronounciation.

That's what I did.

[Fyraltari]

That's what I did.

Well, I wouldn't put it past Google to have some algorithm/user-related weirdness in their translation software too.

Here you can listen to someone pronounce it with a Parisian accent.

[Rater202]

Me: Takes nap

Also Me: Dreams I'm a late-blooming X-Men mutant

Also me: Wakes up before I find out what my power is.

[enderlord99]

Well, I wouldn't put it past Google to have some algorithm/user-related weirdness in their translation software too.

Here you can listen to someone pronounce it with a Parisian accent.

That sounded like "er O durv" to me.

[Anonymouswizard]

Me: Takes nap

Also Me: Dreams I'm a late-blooming X-Men mutant

Also me: Wakes up before I find out what my power is.

I once had a dream they consisted entirely off me waking up to different wallpaper. Same room and it all seemed normal, but there was a lot more red.

Also once dreamt about waking up next to my partner. I have weirdly mundane dreams.

[Rater202]

I've noticed recently that it's been a while since I've eaten fast food with ketchup on the fries.

[Jasdoif]

I've noticed recently that it's been a while since I've eaten fast food with ketchup on the fries.

I prefer pink sauce to straight ketchup, myself.

[Peelee]

Look, let's just say that being cut off from my primary contact with the outside world is not good for my anxiety for a number of reasons.

Oof, that's rough. I'm happy that it didn't last terribly long!

Screw reading.

A good book, a beach, a nice chair, and a big umbrella or canopy are all I need to be happy forever.

The beach clearly entails copious amounts of seafood restaurants.

I prefer pink sauce to straight ketchup, myself.

You dip your fries in pepto bismol?

[Rater202]

Oof, that's rough. I'm happy that it didn't last terribly long!

A good book, a beach, a nice chair, and a big umbrella or canopy are all I need to be happy forever.

Throw in a source of tunes and a variety of beverages and I can get behind that, though I'd prefer a hammock capable of supporting my weight to the chair--you can nap in the hammock.

[Peelee]

Throw in a source of tunes and a variety of beverages and I can get behind that, though I'd prefer a hammock capable of supporting my weight to the chair--you can nap in the hammock.

Ooooh, I do love some hammock time. Soon as it warms up some more I may need to break it out.

[Rater202]

Ooooh, I do love some hammock time. Soon as it warms up some more I may need to break it out.

Like I said earlier when I need to get my anxiety under control I meditate on the idea of reclining in a hammock on a beach in spring when it's warm enough to be dressed for the beach but cool enough that it's not uncomfortable.

The weather is best when the warm sun and the cool breeze cancel each other out so you feel just slightly cool. Partly cloudy, not enough to obscure the blue sky but enough that the sun can't get in your eyes.

[Peelee]

Like I said earlier when I need to get my anxiety under control I meditate on the idea of reclining in a hammock on a beach in spring when it's warm enough to be dressed for the beach but cool enough that it's not uncomfortable.

The weather is best when the warm sun and the cool breeze cancel each other out so you feel just slightly cool. Partly cloudy, not enough to obscure the blue sky but enough that the sun can't get in your eyes.

Aye, don't even need an umbrella then.

If either of us gets superpowers, I vote we use them to go have a beach hammock day together.

[Jasdoif]

I prefer pink sauce to straight ketchup, myself.

You dip your fries in pepto bismol?

No. General concerns about medicine abuse aside, I don't think it would mesh well with the potato texture nor the amount of salt.

However, "fry sauce" is overly vague in the "isn't any sauce applied to fries, including ketchup, fry sauce at that point" sense; and overly reductive in that it overlooks the wide range of other potato products it enhances (tater tots, potato wedges, jojos). Also it's been called "pink sauce" around here for as long as I can remember, and that's over a third of a century at this point.

[Rater202]

A lot of my though experiments involve trying to get reality-warping powers.

...Last couple of years, they've involved symbiotes. I might have a problem.

"Perfect relaxing beach pocket universe" is on the too-do list.

[Peelee]

However, "fry sauce" is overly vague

Oh, Zaxby's sauce! Yeah, that's pretty good. And your right, I would have been equally confused by "fry sauce".

[Rater202]

I can't do anything with mayonnaise in it.

Luckily, most recipes I know let me either leave it out or let me substitute something else. Oil, some other egg product, butter.

[Rater202]

It seems to me that while the English writing system is based on Latin, which uses an alphabet to spell out the sound of words, in practice we use the Latin letters to build logograms like Chinese, where each word is a more-or-less arbitrary collection of glyphs recognized from memory. The main useful information consistently communicated by English spelling is hints as to the etymology of the word.

...That is a fascinating theory. Has anyone ever told you that you have a beautiful brain?

[factotum]

If either of us gets superpowers, I vote we use them to go have a beach hammock day together.

It would be interesting to see how, for example, invulnerability would help with that.

[Rater202]

It would be interesting to see how, for example, invulnerability would help with that.

No need for sunscreen and no risk of burning your feet on hot sand.

[Peelee]

On occasion people have said things to that effect, yes. Still working on figuring out an ethical way to monetize it...

Be wary of people who just want brain pics. That road leads to ruin all too often.