LGBTAIitp Part 60: Still Going Strong

[DataNinja]

Does anyone have recommendations for a queer-friendly TTRPG-focused Discord server?

Lancer's PilotNet (second result for Lancer on discord search, only one for PilotNet) is very, very queer-focused. I spend a lot of time there myself, and... well, if the dabbing mech in front of a trans flag as the server banner doesn't give you an idea of how welcoming it is to the queer community, nothing will.

Don't have any ideas for more general ones, but that one's grown rather more than just Lancer, at least.

[TwilightSandwic]

It's been ten years since my grandma passed away so she's been on my mind lately. She died when I was in High School and that was also around the time I started realizing that I'm not-straight (I'm aroace) but those weren't thoughts I shared with my family at the time. When grandma passed away I was emotionally messed up for months, she was really one of my fav people in the whole world... probably because she spoiled me rotten, lol. She was one of those people who just wanted nothing more than to dote on their grandkids and greatgrandkids and listen to classical music.
Years passed, I realized I'm aroace and came out to my family, and I always felt sad that grandma never got to see me graduate from school or finish my first animated project. One day this year me and my parents were in the car together and the conversation has moved to reminiscing about grandma. And mom and dad recalled the time she came to visit them back when they were living in San Francisco, during June, and coming across a pride parade. That was her first real encounter with the existence of queer folks and she was appreantly 'in shock' and 'appalled'.
And, well, appreantly my parents thought it was just a funny anecdote, but that was kind of a punch to the gut for me to hear something like that. Because... I would like to believe that no matter how many figurative monocoles she popped while seeing her first pride parade, if she lived longer or if I came out to her while she was alive that she would have accepted me. That she loved me and my cousins and my cousin's kids so strongly that if any one of us came out as aroace or gay or trans or bi or any other flavor of queer, she would have overcome whatever prejudice she had.
And like... I don't think that's an out-there thing to think about! I mean that story happened like 27 years ago and 17 years before she died, she could have changed her mind. And I know nothing was more precious to my grandma than her family. And it's not like she was a raging homophobe single-mindedly focused on hating LGBTQAI+ people, after all, I only ever heard she had any problem with us long after her death. But... I don't know for sure, I CAN'T know for sure. Because she's dead. And that lack of certainty is just... making me really sad. How I can't be certain about it.

(On a happier note, my weekly visits to grandma's house was actually where I was first exposed to queer media. One of the weekly magazines she used to get had a recurring comic by a lesbian about herself, her girlfriend and their cats. I dunno if grandma ever read those comics, but I sure did.)

[Astrella]

For what it's worth, people's initial reaction can often be very different from how they react in the end. Not to mention that like, having someone you're close to come out as queer makes people think about it in different ways too.

So I don't think it's set in stone that your gran would have been a bigot at all.

[ComicSansSeraph]

Good news: Finally came out as non-binary to my grandmother, which means I'm out to everyone.

Bad news: Got a Reddit suspension for appealing my permaban from r/lgbt for not being friendly to idiots making attack helicopter jokes because they muted me last time I appealed it.

[TwilightSandwic]

For what it's worth, people's initial reaction can often be very different from how they react in the end. Not to mention that like, having someone you're close to come out as queer makes people think about it in different ways too.

So I don't think it's set in stone that your gran would have been a bigot at all.

Thanks for your kind words. On some level I'm still just shaken up about the uncertainty of it all. I guess that's one of the tragedy of death, it's the one thing that stops us humans from learning and evolving our views.

Good news: Finally came out as non-binary to my grandmother, which means I'm out to everyone.

Congrats!!
(sucks about Reddit, though)

[JusticeZero]

I exist.
That's pretty much all, really.

[BisectedBrioche]

Existing is one of those things that has a low barrier to entry (if you can acknowledge it as an achievement, you're in), while still being an amazing achievement. Especially when it takes more effort to exist as yourself in some form.

[Lentrax]

If you live in Texas and you need someone to talk to because you are scared, I am available via PM.

Reach out to any trans or LGBT friendly org in your area.

Stay safe.

Know you are loved.

Know we are fighting.

[halfeye]

If you live in Texas and you need someone to talk to because you are scared, I am available via PM.

Reach out to any trans or LGBT friendly org in your area.

Stay safe.

Know you are loved.

Know we are fighting.

Is this politics or what? We can't talk about politics, but I know one website that is down since a week ago, if it's anything like that we can probably say what it is.

[Caerulea]

Is this politics or what? We can't talk about politics, but I know one website that is down since a week ago, if it's anything like that we can probably say what it is.

{scrubbed}

[Lentrax]

And because this is a political issue, this is as far as we can go in this thread.

[halfeye]

{Scrub the post, scrub the quote}

Too much detail, probably.

You could have said "local politics" or if the cause was something else "international politics", or maybe for a third thing "local terrorist incident", "international terrorist incident", "local accidental disaster" or "international accidental disaster" or any of billions of variations without getting into details depending on what it was.

Oh and yakyak.org is back:

Sorry, I didn't notice it was down until <name> mailed me today.

The AWS instance that YY was on was retired because of an underlying HW issue. I've migrated it to another server, restarted phpbb and things now seem okay :)

[Otomodachi]

Draw your own conclusions, I'm outta here, not worth sticking around for the ending to me, anymore.


{Scrubbed}

[The Extinguisher]

Draw your own conclusions, I'm outta here, not worth sticking around for the ending to me, anymore.

{Scrub the post, scrub the quote}

this sucks. here i was, just thinking that it's been i while since i left the forums. thinking maybe this time i will be able to have opinions on a webcomic without encountering a wall of subtle hostility. or at least be funny in the face of it. guess not. I dont use twitter, so i have no way of actually talking to the guy, but he doesn't need to tell us to not use the forums. we're already getting harassed off of them.

[Lentrax]

Hey.

Just reminding you (Yes you).

I love you.

[TaiLiu]

Draw your own conclusions, I'm outta here, not worth sticking around for the ending to me, anymore.

{Scrub the post, scrub the quote}

this sucks. here i was, just thinking that it's been i while since i left the forums. thinking maybe this time i will be able to have opinions on a webcomic without encountering a wall of subtle hostility. or at least be funny in the face of it. guess not. I dont use twitter, so i have no way of actually talking to the guy, but he doesn't need to tell us to not use the forums. we're already getting harassed off of them.

I'm probably missing important context, or maybe I'm misreading something. What about 2022 in particular makes the long-standing no politics/religion talk policy problematic now? It's always been the case that some topics of critical importance can only be talked about outside of the forums.

Hey.

Just reminding you (Yes you).

I love you.

♥♥♥

[enderlord99]

I'm probably missing important context, or maybe I'm misreading something. What about 2022 in particular makes the long-standing no politics/religion talk policy problematic now? It's always been the case that some topics of critical importance can only be talked about outside of the forums.

I'm just as confused as you are.

[BisectedBrioche]

I'm probably missing important context, or maybe I'm misreading something. What about 2022 in particular makes the long-standing no politics/religion talk policy problematic now? It's always been the case that some topics of critical importance can only be talked about outside of the forums.


♥♥♥

I have to say, the tone of the forums, and style of moderation feels very different to how it was before I sorta drifted away before returning in 2020.

It's hard to put my finger on, but if nothing else, it feels harder to just ask for clarification on the rules or what the issue is if your post is scrubbed.

But then, maybe I've just been spoiled by forums with open user/moderator discussions and a public appeals process. Different spaces, different styles.

[DarthArminius]

Life is so frustrating. @BisectedBrioche , I might understand what you mean. I've been here since 2004. This is my third account on this website because after not being able to get a password for my last account, none of the moderators would help me get another one.

[TaiLiu]

I'm just as confused as you are.

Confusion buddies! Also, hi, it's been a hot minute! Hope things are going well with you and yours.

I have to say, the tone of the forums, and style of moderation feels very different to how it was before I sorta drifted away before returning in 2020.

It's hard to put my finger on, but if nothing else, it feels harder to just ask for clarification on the rules or what the issue is if your post is scrubbed.

But then, maybe I've just been spoiled by forums with open user/moderator discussions and a public appeals process. Different spaces, different styles.

Oh, okay. I've never been scrubbed before, so maybe I've just avoided that aspect of these forums. I agree—these forums have always had a relatively rigid moderation style. But Rich is paying for the forums and wants, like, a controversy-free space; and if I wanna talk politics I talk about them elsewhere; and admittedly I'm not winning any awards for posting rate. So it's not been a huge problem for me.

Life is so frustrating. @BisectedBrioche , I might understand what you mean. I've been here since 2004. This is my third account on this website because after not being able to get a password for my last account, none of the moderators would help me get another one.

It sucks losing access to your account. I'm sorry about that.

[137beth]

Rain has now ended

[Lentrax]

Sad to see it end.

[Peelee]

I have to say, the tone of the forums, and style of moderation feels very different to how it was before I sorta drifted away before returning in 2020.

It's hard to put my finger on, but if nothing else, it feels harder to just ask for clarification on the rules or what the issue is if your post is scrubbed.

But then, maybe I've just been spoiled by forums with open user/moderator discussions and a public appeals process. Different spaces, different styles.

You (general "you", not BB specifically) can always PM any moderator if you have a general question or the specific moderator who issued a warning or Infraction if you have a question about that, and if that route does not work, you can always consult Roland St. Jude. If you ever have any issues, you're always free to ask me and I'll do whatever I can to help.

Life is so frustrating. @BisectedBrioche , I might understand what you mean. I've been here since 2004. This is my third account on this website because after not being able to get a password for my last account, none of the moderators would help me get another one.

None of the moderators are able to do anything to help. Moderator powers are the ability to use red text without issue and access to few extra buttons. Only the administrators would be able to do anything concerning that, and even then it'd likely be Rawhide's domain.

[JusticeZero]

So, in other news...

Happy birthday to me, I have been gifted with a trip to Thailand, for reasons typical to us.

Any tips?

[DarthArminius]

So, in other news...

Happy birthday to me, I have been gifted with a trip to Thailand, for reasons typical to us.

Any tips?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfg6xG1C6vA

Happy Birthday.

[Astrella]

So, in other news...

Happy birthday to me, I have been gifted with a trip to Thailand, for reasons typical to us.

Any tips?

Oh congrats!

Listen to your surgeon! And take after care seriously, it's really rough, especially at the start, but it's very important. Oh, and drink lots and lots of water. I was already prone to UTI's before bottom surgery, but it got a lot worse after. (Now with drinking enough fluids and some cranberry supplements and once I didn't need to wear pads anymore post-surgery wise it got a lot better.)

Oh, and don't worry if everything doesn't magically feel right in every way from the start, it takes time for your body to adapt to the new anatomy + healing + nerve rejiggling and all that.

[Mx.Silver]

So it's been a few years since I was last really around the forums, but since I've been doing a 'general update' in various places lately I've looked back here enough times that I should really include this place as well.

Anyway: I'm non-binary. More on the 'agender/neither of the above' end of the spectrum - I'm very much a 'they' rather than a 'he' or 'she' - as it turns out.
I came-out back in 2019, and although it's not been perfectly smooth sailing (both due to global events and otherwise), overall it's definitely been better than being stuck in the closet. I guess I have had the slight advantage of transitioning as an adult, meaning that people are sort of obliged to take you more seriously, so that may have helped things a little (even if it doesn't really make up for the 'lost years' beforehand, but that's another topic).


That's about the gist of things, really. I don't know if how 'actively back' here I'm going to be long time (or indeed if there are any other old-timers who'd remember me either way) but regardless, if you're reading this: I hope you're safe and doing well.

[BisectedBrioche]

So, in other news...

Happy birthday to me, I have been gifted with a trip to Thailand, for reasons typical to us.

Any tips?

Happy Birthday!

For me, the worst part was the pre-surgery enema. You'll be asleep for most of the recovery days in hospital, so they're fairly easy (just bring a book or something). Once the drains and catheters are out, you're home free. ^_^

[Karen Lynn]

It is good to see this thread persists. Be Well.

[Karen Lynn]

Yo I'm gay.

That's pretty gay.