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2021-02-27, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
Is this actually a good idea? What I am looking at is that this is a damage increase until 11th level and makes fighting without weapons more viable until then (better since it applies to your bonus action attacks) and can swap out the fighting style once you get to 12th for blind fighting or interception or protection, which are all useful after that.
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2021-02-27, 05:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
I'd give it a 3/5. It's a nice boost earlier on and the fact you can swap fighter styles makes it flexible depending on the direction you go.
It losses one star because unless you are playing to the aesthetics of only using unarmed strikes it's a pretty small damage boost. The new dedicated weapon feature also weakens it.
The second star is loss just due to how ability score driven the monk is. Assuming point buy or SA, taking this means delaying dex which is also more damage while also increasing hit chance and the laundry list of other things.
Overall I would say take it if you want but it isn't a massive boost. Blind fighting for shadow and Archery for SS kensei are the exceptions I see.Last edited by stoutstien; 2021-02-27 at 05:48 PM.
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2021-02-27, 05:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
Just to make sure I follow:
Take v.human Fighting Initiate: Unarmed, which improves your damage output from 1-3, and maybe to 7 or 11 for Open Hand, Drunken Master, Mercy, and Astral Self.
If Shadow (or in a heavy-obscurement party), trade for blind fighting at 4 (and compare to Alert; both have advantages).
If Kensei, trade for Archery at 4.
Otherwise, it's not clear what remaining FS was worth the opportunity cost of taking a better feat as v.human.
Yes?
Aside: while Unarmed is made less exciting by the Tasha's optional features, the Dueling fighting style gets *better* with Ki-Fueled Attack once Martial Arts catches up with your versatile weapon (since you'll often get a Dueling BA attack).
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2021-02-27, 06:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
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2021-02-27, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
Is the 1d4 grapple damage to small to matter?
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2021-02-27, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
Oh, I forgot that part. That's a nice bonus for Astral and Mercy (Athletics (Wis) and poisoned, respectively). Note that taking the FS as a feat denies a good way to get expertise in Athletics (Skill Expert/Prodigy). 1d4/round is not a lot though, and it can't "crit".
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2021-02-27, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Not the intended use: Fighting initiate Unarmed fighting on a monk
what is the point of living if you can't deadlift?
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2021-02-27, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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