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    so is that beausoleil, or just a quirk of the artist that the captain happens to look like him while sporting a similar beard?
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    And now we know why Bang didn't carry the message; Bang's response to the Captain pulling a gun would be "Let the good times roll!", followed by a brief interlude of stabbing. Krosp is considerably less lethal.

    OTOH, Team Agatha is probably not completely unaware of a gunshot. The captain's betrayal will obviously not succeed in delivering our heroine & friends into the hands of the enemy.

    Advice for the Captain - any plan that involves shooting your Chief Officer on the bridge in front of witnesses is likely to result in you losing your hat. It's not a good plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Advice for the Captain - any plan that involves shooting your Chief Officer on the bridge in front of witnesses is likely to result in you losing your hat. It's not a good plan.
    That's why he locked him in his cabin. This isn't plan A.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    That's why he locked him in his cabin. This isn't plan A.
    I'm wondering if the Chief Officer outranks the Captain. You'd think 2nd in command would be "First Mate" or "Executive Officer", not Chief Officer.
    Maybe the Chief Officer is in charge of the Marines / Redcoats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I'm wondering if the Chief Officer outranks the Captain. You'd think 2nd in command would be "First Mate" or "Executive Officer", not Chief Officer.
    Maybe the Chief Officer is in charge of the Marines / Redcoats?
    Yeah did a quick dive and chief petty officer is the closest it gets to being an actual rank. Second in command is commander. Only ranks above captain would be commodore and various admiral titles. I even checked with other branches just in case there was something like a higher ranking officer from a different branch of the military but nope. And honestly, I have no effing clue how authority works in that scenario. If im a naval captain on my boat, but an army general is on board, who gives orders? Its been decades since I did basic training where im pretty sure we covered this sort of scenario but danged if I can remember. If im captain and an admiral is on board, thats easy, but a different branch of authority not in my direct line of command? If I say left and he says right, who gets obeyed? Im pretty sure the general answer is "Its complicated and depends." I THINK the general gets obeyed unless the captain is under orders from his superior in the chain fo command, so if rear admiral joe ordered me to do something but general josh said not to, my actual commanding officer's orders would supersede his but even then im unsure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Yeah did a quick dive and chief petty officer is the closest it gets to being an actual rank. Second in command is commander. Only ranks above captain would be commodore and various admiral titles. I even checked with other branches just in case there was something like a higher ranking officer from a different branch of the military but nope. And honestly, I have no effing clue how authority works in that scenario. If im a naval captain on my boat, but an army general is on board, who gives orders? Its been decades since I did basic training where im pretty sure we covered this sort of scenario but danged if I can remember. If im captain and an admiral is on board, thats easy, but a different branch of authority not in my direct line of command? If I say left and he says right, who gets obeyed? Im pretty sure the general answer is "Its complicated and depends." I THINK the general gets obeyed unless the captain is under orders from his superior in the chain fo command, so if rear admiral joe ordered me to do something but general josh said not to, my actual commanding officer's orders would supersede his but even then im unsure.
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    For things unrelated to ship operations, normal hierarchy rules apply, obviously.

    Finally, landlubbers have no authority on sailors. A general onboard is just a VIP guest, but not part of the chain of command.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locksmith of lo View Post
    so is that beausoleil, or just a quirk of the artist that the captain happens to look like him while sporting a similar beard?
    It does look very like him in the last frame. I doubt it, though - last time we saw him Beausoleil looked very worried about his Principals catching up with him (or at least, his true body) and granting him an award for failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Yeah did a quick dive and chief petty officer is the closest it gets to being an actual rank.
    Chief Petty Officer is the best rank in the navy, but definitely does not outrank the captain of a vessel.

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    So is this guy a Revenant, in Madwa's pocket or something else?

    Cime to think of it, I don't recall Snackleford having any link with the Other or the Knights of Jove. Was he the only vilain in that position?
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    So is this guy a Revenant, in Madwa's pocket or something else?
    I suspect the time-manipulating peoples, and I don't think we know who that is at this point. Could be anyone else who simply know it is a great way to eliminate opposition, but at this point this is my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    I suspect the time-manipulating peoples, and I don't think we know who that is at this point.
    It's Madwa, isn't it? She stole Prende's Lantern.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    It's Madwa, isn't it? She stole Prende's Lantern.
    Sure could be, or (just knowing time travel tropes) future Agatha (for reasons we'll find out later), or any one of a bunch of other options.

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    I might be wrong but this airship captain looks pretty familiar to me.
    (The goate is a /tad/ different but thee's been two years in universe and some slight art develloepment in between.) The alliegance would certainely check if i's Madwa (which I agree it's likely is as that plot threat has been left dangling for a while now depite being the whole reason for this albion arc to start) As is the ... interesting style of dealing with problems and prediliction for throwing people overboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    I might be wrong but this airship captain looks pretty familiar to me.
    (The goate is a /tad/ different but thee's been two years in universe and some slight art develloepment in between.) The alliegance would certainely check if i's Madwa (which I agree it's likely is as that plot threat has been left dangling for a while now depite being the whole reason for this albion arc to start) As is the ... interesting style of dealing with problems and prediliction for throwing people overboard.
    I don't think they're the same guy. It seems to me that that guy has significantly darker skin than the current captain.
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    I don't think they're the same guy. It seems to me that that guy has significantly darker skin than the current captain.
    I think it's just the lightning on the page I linked that give that impression (the scene is at night), looking at pages later, when his skin is higlightedor befoe in a scene in daylightt it's definitively clearer. Though his hair are darker so yeah possibly not him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    Chief Petty Officer is the best rank in the navy, but definitely does not outrank the captain of a vessel.
    My father was a chief. They offered to make him an officer, but he decided chief suited him better.

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    I think it's just the lightning on the page I linked that give that impression (the scene is at night), looking at pages later, when his skin is higlightedor befoe in a scene in daylightt it's definitively clearer. Though his hair are darker so yeah possibly not him.
    It would not surprise me if Phil reuses art with small tweaks for minor characters. Also, that guy gave a pretty good demonstration of how a Captain deals with landlubbers trying to give him orders when the vessel is in danger. Which is the reverse of this situation, where he's insisting on putting his vessel in danger - or at least, his passengers.

    The question is, can Madwa with the lantern and time to prepare still overcome Team Agatha? Violetta in particular probably can counter many of her Smoke Knight tricks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    The question is, can Madwa with the lantern and time to prepare still overcome Team Agatha? Violetta in particular probably can counter many of her Smoke Knight tricks.
    The problem is, Violetta isn't that good as a smoke knight. She's an awful lot better than she thinks she is (and even Madwa acknowledges this), but we have seen her with run of the mill smoke knights and they are better.

    That, in part, is her advantage - as with Tarvek, she is a lot better than her opponents realise (well, some of them...) - but even Tarvek is worried about high-level smoke knights. Madwa has all the advantages here, and has already upgraded her opinion of Violetta.

    That's not to say that Violetta won't provide a few handfuls of grit to lubricate the machinary, though. She identified Madwa's work immediately in Paris...
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    It would not surprise me if Phil reuses art with small tweaks for minor characters. Also, that guy gave a pretty good demonstration of how a Captain deals with landlubbers trying to give him orders when the vessel is in danger. Which is the reverse of this situation, where he's insisting on putting his vessel in danger - or at least, his passengers.
    That would be because he wasn't a traitor the first time around. Assuming that's the same guy, which would be a bit weird since he would have needed to switch militaries.
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    That would be because he wasn't a traitor the first time around. Assuming that's the same guy, which would be a bit weird since he would have needed to switch militaries.
    He could have gotten Wasped.

    Or it's a different captain who, similarly, could have gotten Wasped. Although were that the case 1) Agatha's Weasel would have reacted, and 2) I imagine more of the crew would be Wasped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRC View Post
    He could have gotten Wasped.

    Or it's a different captain who, similarly, could have gotten Wasped. Although were that the case 1) Agatha's Weasel would have reacted, and 2) I imagine more of the crew would be Wasped.
    Yeah, I think this guy is more likely part of Ararchnae's conspiracy to overthrow Albia. Which means he's got some sort of shield from her mind reading powers - possibly the shield of avoiding being near her and not being important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    That would be because he wasn't a traitor the first time around. Assuming that's the same guy, which would be a bit weird since he would have needed to switch militaries.
    The last time we see him at mechanicburg he is basically 6 inches from castle wulfenbach and presumably captured or shot down. There is no telling what happened next. And he HAD just basically tossed the nobleman overboard and thus betrayed the side he was on originally. Even if just to save his ship and his and his crews lives. And the baron was well known for bringing in the defeated to his side. So basically, its anyones guess what happened next.
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    The problem is, Violetta isn't that good as a smoke knight. She's an awful lot better than she thinks she is (and even Madwa acknowledges this), but we have seen her with run of the mill smoke knights and they are better.

    That, in part, is her advantage - as with Tarvek, she is a lot better than her opponents realise (well, some of them...) - but even Tarvek is worried about high-level smoke knights. Madwa has all the advantages here, and has already upgraded her opinion of Violetta.

    That's not to say that Violetta won't provide a few handfuls of grit to lubricate the machinary, though. She identified Madwa's work immediately in Paris...
    The archive dive your post inspired led me to pulling up something I don't think anyone's mentioned yet: we've already had a mention of what is almost certainly this island by Lady Steelgarter. Who, lets us remember, financed the expedition to Skifander that brought Zeetha to Europa.

    With lots and lots of time hijinks still unexplained, I'm starting to think that Agatha and Company will never get to Africa, but rather that we're going to end up in Skifander sooner rather than later, and then get a Castle Hetrodyne's worth of time and space travel shenanigans before we approach the grande finale. Maybe what they find on the island will send them to Skifanader via Africa, but it just feels like everything Madwa and those she's connected with are doing has something to do with extraordinary travel of some sort, particularly involving Skifander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runeghost View Post
    The archive dive your post inspired led me to pulling up something I don't think anyone's mentioned yet: we've already had a mention of what is almost certainly this island by Lady Steelgarter. Who, lets us remember, financed the expedition to Skifander that brought Zeetha to Europa.

    With lots and lots of time hijinks still unexplained, I'm starting to think that Agatha and Company will never get to Africa, but rather that we're going to end up in Skifander sooner rather than later, and then get a Castle Hetrodyne's worth of time and space travel shenanigans before we approach the grande finale. Maybe what they find on the island will send them to Skifanader via Africa, but it just feels like everything Madwa and those she's connected with are doing has something to do with extraordinary travel of some sort, particularly involving Skifander.
    Yeah, Africa might end up being scrapped for time purposes.

    That said, we could have also been halfway to an Africa plotline already, with the "island" being a mysterious place off the coast of Africa, Madwa and co fleeing into Africa, and then going from there. Though that's obviously not possible now.

    Beginning to suspect that the Geister area will be the site of the grand finale, with it also being where the Muse of Time shows Agatha how to do time shenanigans and fix the time loop at the beginning.

    Unrelated, do you think the rats mentioned by Steelgarter are literal rats or people already on the island?
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    Yeah, Africa might end up being scrapped for time purposes.
    I rather hope it is. Not because I don't want more Girl Genius shenanigans, but because I'm always worried with long-running comics that the artist/author will perish or lose interest before finishing the story. We are closing in on 19 years since the comic launched, which is no small sum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayson View Post
    I rather hope it is. Not because I don't want more Girl Genius shenanigans, but because I'm always worried with long-running comics that the artist/author will perish or lose interest before finishing the story. We are closing in on 19 years since the comic launched, which is no small sum.
    I feel like jumping to Skifander from here and then the Geisters would serve it better, possibly with Africa being an additional story to take place after the fact? "Martellus, Seffie and Gil go to Ethiopia" would be an entertaining story to see after all this is wrapped up.
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    It's a little disorienting to find yourself thinking, "Yes! Dupree to the rescue!"

    That just isn't a sentence that should be said with a straight face.

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    The captain is very insistent on landing here.
    Maybe he just wants to finish the mission his queen gave him? Albia told him go get those people on that island, so he will get them there. Minor problems like obvious traps or there being no landing spot will not stop him.
    Also, he hates cats.

    Nah. He's probably working for the other guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post
    Unrelated, do you think the rats mentioned by Steelgarter are literal rats or people already on the island?
    The better question is: Will Krosp end up with an army of rats?
    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    The British conquered the world in search of spices and then decided to use none of them.

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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness

    Quote Originally Posted by PraetorDragoon View Post
    The better question is: Will Krosp end up with an army of rats?
    Sure, maybe have them all fight from howdahs as part of some rodent-pachyderm cavalry?
    I can see the song they'd get in a future Heterodyne tale: --

    There was Winslow the alligator and Higgs-beating geese
    Some Iron Sheik-mechanical camels and some chimpanzees aeroapes
    Some cats with rats on elephants, but sure as you're born
    The fiercest of Agatha's monsters was the (fire-breathing) unicorns


    Sorry, 'cats and rats' was all it took to think of this song, and then it snowballed from there.

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