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2021-04-11, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
"Then you would have Dreen."
<Laughs madly>
Stuff like this is why I love GG so much. This ranks right up there with, "...and they had hats..." for one of the best little payoffs of all time. The only thing that I can think of coming close at the moment is Steven Brust's comment (via Loiosh) "Hey boss, do we know her?" in Taltos (1988) that doesn't pay off until Orca (1996), which is pretty darn good for a mystery/brick joke.
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2021-04-12, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Why, then they'd have hats.
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2021-04-12, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
So once again, we have the Dreen being referred to as a mega-bad and scary thing that indicates that things have really hit the fan. But from what we've seen of them (documented here), they seem like some of the more powerful entities working with the Baron, but not categorically different from any other. Heck, Mr. Vozzler's undoing of the crippling of Dr. Dim and the early timestream shenanigans around his appearance seem flashier than anything we've seen out of the Dreen — lots of things in this setting can blow up a decent-sized clank. Will we learn why the Dreen have the reputation they do?
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2021-04-12, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I think we have seen the Dreen totally restraining themselves so far.
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2021-04-12, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
The curious question is whether the Dreen are the result of the freezing of Mechanicsburg in time or something else, possible multiple events.
Hmm, assuming the Castle is correct in identifying the monster in Mechanicsburg and the Dreen as having the same extra-dimensional origin, perhaps the Dreen represent the human-analogue from their dimension while the monster is well, a monster from another dimension, something exponentially more potent. Or maybe it's some kind of super-Dreen or Dreen-god or something. In that case the dam-breaking analogy implies that restarting time will let said monster loose.
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2021-04-12, 04:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
The result of getting things out of Mechanisburg was rapid ageing for the first few tries, so I guess the dam analogy holds up.
* my emphasis
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2021-04-12, 06:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-12, 06:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Ok, take that analogy, now try to imagine TIME acting like the water in this scenario. The shockwave of the released effect could have devastating properties as it roils and rampages along the path it takes, possibly aging everything, possibly creating bizarre time warp effects where some get younger, or parts get older, parts get younger, and some fluctuates back and forth due to the splashing and reverberations along the path. Will it be an explosion? Will it be a flood in a shotgun spread? A tight flow out of the first hole poked in the containment? Forget the people, the plants and rocks would be in just as much danger. Imagine it as portions of the mountainside age to dust, others grow as centuries of erosion are reversed, still more explodes under the conflicting strain of ageing and regressing. And what of lasting effects? Will there be pockets of screwed up time left behind like tide pools? Accidentally cross into one and make like rumplestilskien? Pull back a baby arm because you just brushed against it? Will they be like grey boy loops from Worm?
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2021-04-12, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Why is it I think Kjarl, friend of smerks, delivered that line about Dreen in much the same tone as Boromir's "They have a cave troll?"
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Did we just learn something about Dreen? That they are some sort of time-stop police?Last edited by Shining Wrath; 2021-04-12 at 07:41 AM.
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"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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2021-04-12, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-12, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2021-04-12, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I do hope we learn specifics (or at least more detail about the Dreen here), but even based off what we have seen I think it is unfair to them to say they're not on their own level. Have we seen anything else capable of scaring a Heterodyne into both having an existential crisis and actually keeping a promise? Because the Dreen did that with Robur Heterodyne and the Corbettites. Have we seen anything else that makes a Jaeger general run? Cause a single Dreen did that at Mechanicsburg.
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2021-04-12, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
... And, according to the novels, while Castle Wulfenbach is host to an activated wasp engine, scaring the living *** out of any slaver wasps that manage to get away in time (the remainder are "killed with a touch"...).
Yup - I really want to find out more about the Dreen.
OK - Kjarl is going to Mechanicsberg - fair enough, given his nature.
I'm surprised that Orotine seems to be along for the ride (let alone going at all), but I guess that she wants to advise one claimant to the throne.Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
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2021-04-12, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-12, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Which isn't much of a surprise, since the story is more revolving around Agatha, Gil and Tarvek.
And the Dreen seem to be pushing the three together to correct the problem, sometimes even before the event occurred.
One wanted Agatha out of Mechanicsburg prior to the Take Five (their non-linear relationship with time, after all)
One told Gil where Agatha was headed post Take Five.
So their interactions with the primary cast are going to mostly be peaceful; the only time they show any offensive ability is if someone tries to stop them - like Tweedle trying to squash one with his mech.
So instead, we're going to get 'informed knowledge' about the Dreen in the comic. Scared a Heterodyne (a family that normally doesn't balk at doing Absolutely Bonkers to the Nth degree). Causes jaegers, who normally are up for a fight, to run for their lives. Freaks out Gil AND Dupree (and how often does DUPREE get freaked by ANYTHING?)May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2021-04-12, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Here's one destroying a mega-clank of Martellus' creation casually.
In the previous strip the mega-clank (100 feet tall? 60, anyway) squashes the Dreen like a fly. In this strip the completely undamaged, unperturbed Dreen disassembles the clank Martellus chose to make his grand entrance to Mechanicsburg. One "Crik - crunk - crrumpf" and it's in a million pieces.
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Didn't even dent the pointy hat. A Dreen's hat can take tons of pressure and not be harmed.Last edited by Shining Wrath; 2021-04-12 at 12:17 PM.
This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
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I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2021-04-12, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Martellus is almost as tall as the mech's head, if my judging is correct.. If you keep with standard proportions, you'd go about 8 heads height.
So more like 56 to 64 (giving some leeway of estimating 7-8 feet for the head) - or, my take of things.
As the Dreen was surrounded by a 'bubble', I would hazard a guess that he didn't even TOUCH the hat. Moment that mech came down, 'bubble' popped up and stopped the Dreen from being touched, much less injured.Last edited by sihnfahl; 2021-04-12 at 12:49 PM.
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2021-04-12, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Foglio is rather flexible with scale and proportion from comic to comic.
The baron is anywhere from 6.5 to 8 feet tall, it seems.
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2021-04-12, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Actually Gil didn't get that upset. But Bang did and that's scary. And it wasn't just a standard Jaeger, it was a Jager General. Also we have to add in Tarvek panicking as well.
Der Kastle mentions that there were dozens of Dreen and given his reaction to seeing the big thing, I don't think it was lying. Whatever the number though, are least three Dreen stuck around and have been on Earth for the last 300 years. If the Dreen are the Time Police it seems very odd that they would have allowed Klaus to stop time. No, the Dreen knew Klaus was going to freeze time and they either allowed him to do it or had a hand in it somehow. They have their own agenda going here, but I don't have a clue on what the end game for them is. Maybe the time monster in Mechanicsburg is an enemy and this is all a trap for it. Maybe this all a plan to counter the Other. Maybe (probably) something else entirely.
Also "Why then you would have Dreen." would be a good thread title, but it's way to early.Member of the Giants in the Playground Forum Chapter for the Movement to Reunite Gondwana!
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2021-04-12, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2021-04-12, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
There IS the Muse of Time running around. And all the Time Window machines.
So if Agatha ends up closing all the Crazy Time Stuff in linear time...
She has incentive to research time herself now that Mechanicsburg is Stopped.
Also, they likely can only react to events that will happen, not those that have occurred.Last edited by sihnfahl; 2021-04-12 at 01:57 PM.
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2021-04-12, 02:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-12, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
That's pretty much the only feat we've seen from one of the Dreen. And it is pretty good, but not really distinguishing. Just about every high-end spark has a quality death ray that could do something like that, and it's nothing compared to serious weapons like the Storm King's tools or Gil's lightning wand. What can the Dreen do besides blow stuff up about as well as a sparky weapon? The Vozzler could reverse or rewind the brain damage Klaus inflicted on Doctor Vapnoople. Vapnoople himself was able to throw together a decent death ray in a few minutes and, without visible technological assistance, summon an army of extradimensional horrors.
I know this is comparing them to some pretty potent things, but I feel like that's fair given how the Dreen have been talked up. As of yet, we mostly have how they've been talked up to go off of.
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2021-04-12, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
Foglio is simply not playing all his cards right away, imho.
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2021-04-13, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
I would say the main thing is that the Dreen are completely unstoppable. You cannot squish them, shoot them or do anything to them while they can and will destroy anything you throw at them.
I am also not sure if Vozzler's comment about Dreen is meant to say that they are very bad news or that they always show up to, when a really big time disaster happens or would happen without intervention. So lack of Dreen would simply indicate a small-scale problem.In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2021-04-13, 07:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-13, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
According to the Jager general here: Dreen are both "unstoppable" and "scary". And then next strip we see one casually destroy a mega-clank.
So ... maybe it's like this.
Offensive power of a Dreen: less than a major spark, but decent.
Defensive power of a Dreen: greater than every known Spark in history combined, with each Spark having the best day they are theoretically capable of having.
I do not think a Jager would lie to the Heterodyne in a moment of crisis. "Unstoppable" is probably not an exaggeration. It may be related to their time police role; perhaps they can defer all damage to the end of their lives. The end of their lives may be the heat death of the universe; entropy may be their only nemesis.
Fortunately, they don't seem very fast.This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
http://easydamus.com/character.html
I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2021-04-13, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXIX: A giant corkboard of continuity madness
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