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2021-10-04, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
I think those that complain about the long talky strips must be happy!
cue complaints about everyone tired with all the fightingArrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2021-10-04, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
I picture V's glower as being one part annoyance at Serini's belligerence (look, they're dealing with a non-invisible'd rogue, they've got like fifteen spells that they can use to take her out), and one part kicking themselves for not having thought of that back when Belkar was seriously getting on their nerves...
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2021-10-04, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Ah yes, air freshener. The poor man's tear gas.
Sometimes, I have strong opinions on seemingly inconsequential matters.
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2021-10-04, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Piercer's are my favorite old school D&D monster, so I am getting a big kick out of this update.
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2021-10-04, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Belker actually tried to talk her down. I just want to point that out.
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2021-10-04, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Oh goodie.
The fight’s continuing.
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2021-10-04, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that Serini has even more tricks up her sleeve, but I really thought we were heading into the denouement of this skirmish. (Which, maybe we still are; it's not like I see Serini winning it, in the end.)
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2021-10-04, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 06:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Serini deceitfully lure them away from the door.
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2021-10-04, 07:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
So, what happened to the piercer?
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2021-10-04, 07:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is that another mimic monster?
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2021-10-04, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Okay, that was kind of cool, but I guess now we know that Serini can pull a functionally unlimited amount of creature allies out of her proverbial behind to prolong the fight as long as story dictates, so I'm guessing we still have a few months to go before any productive dialogue actually takes place between her and the Order, if at all given her determination to be as unreasonable as possible.
This is starting to feel like the whole deal with the Godsmoot and Hel's lengthy conga-line of nesting backup plans.I prepared Explosive Runes before writing this signature.
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2021-10-04, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
I guess V could be calm now because they see Serini as an ally, and perceive her confrontation as either a misunderstanding, or a petulance, something not very serious.
I wonder if there's a way to explain actions here within the framework of the rules, or if we should just see that as an artistic interpretation.
An attack would not break the grapple (or a pin). Serini could've just escaped grapple, I guess, but getting out of a pin would require two grapple checks at least, and she's probably both weaker than Haley due to her old age, and also smaller, getting -4 to her check. She could've used escape artist skill to break the pin/grapple, but that would take at least two rounds.
One possible interpretation would be that the piercer bull rushed Haley moving her out of Serini's space, but it doesn't look drawn that way.
Also, isn't a piercer an older edition (1&2) creature? That would mean it could've been in that cave in the Dorukan dungeon with all the old monsters (oots0055). It could even be a "and I don't even know what that one is supposed to be" creature in panel 3, because the piercers are supposed to have eyestalks.
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2021-10-04, 07:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
The piercer is a creature from an older edition. I believe it's a vermin. I'm unsure if there's a 3.5 conversion, but they're known for only getting to attack once and then being useless thereafter, so Haley basically ignored the (extremely weak) hit and ran after Serini.
Attempts to modernize them (e.g. Tome of Horrors in PF) made them closer to traps than actual creatures, to represent their one-and-done nature.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2021-10-04, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
Well Serini's plucky at least, but I wonder how long it's going to take the Order to lose patience with a beaten-but-not-willing-to-admit-it old rogue.
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2021-10-04, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-10-04, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
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2021-10-04, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
given this net development. I think it's a reminder that they are in a dungeon, nay a series of dungeons, that has entirely been created and filled by Serini. there is practically no way to beat her as I see it except holding her hostage in some way in order to get out of the space filled with creatures which may be more or less her allies or friends.
Therefore, reasoning with her may be the only possibility. That, or more and more monsters come out of the woodwork until the order is completely overwhelmed and end up in the same situation that the Paladins are in.
Or, maybe there is some daring against all odds escape the Order will undergo to get out of the dungeon. Of course, the odds are all for an against all odds scenario, as Elan just pointed out to me.
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2021-10-04, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1245 - The Discussion Thread
I'm not so sure. She seems to believe she can still win, and seeing as this is all taking place in Serini's Playhouse, I'm reticent to believe it will end so easily. Especially for V, as Resilient Sphere of Grasping Hand, etc. need only for Sunny to open their main eye again to be wasted slots. V is making the right call here by not doing any of that and trying to talk.
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