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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    The presence of the Thanos Copter in the Void does give strong circumstantial support to the idea that at least one variant Thanos has been beaten by the TVA...
    True, but your argument is undercut by that version being the Thanoscopter version of Thanos. Also, at least one variant of Thanos has lost to Squirrel Girl, so his power level can be pretty variable...

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    True, but your argument is undercut by that version being the Thanoscopter version of Thanos.
    Yeah, if he's dumb/audacious enough to faff about in a pelly with his name tattooed on the side, he kinda probably deserves to lose.

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    The reverse is also true though, some variants are actually stronger than the sacred version. See Classic Loki for example, or Sylvie for that matter. Given that, the most likely explanation is that the TVA catch variants off guard the vast majority of the time. (Given that they can see your whole branch provided you're not hiding in an apocalypse event, that likely isn't too difficult.)

    The only two we've seen evade capture are the ones who escaped the TVA's clutches, which appears to be rare (and even more likely, not an accident.)
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    If they’re using variants as agents (which we know they are), there might be some higher-power-tier agents they send after the really dangerous cases. EX: send TVAAgent!Thor against Variant!Thanos. Kind of like they did with Loki.

    I thought about the TVA just having their agents zerg rush him, but their numbers are finite (else Sylvie wouldn’t have been able to depopulate the TVA with her timeline bombing) and so is the amount of time they have to arrest/prune him before the branch redlines. So they can’t just pile on infinite bodies until someone batons him, nor can they wait for him to take a nap or something in all cases. They need some kind of workaround.

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    You only need to touch someone with a baton to deal with them so the TVA do seem like they should have quite an advantage on most variants.
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    Would surprise be enough to take down a variant Thanos?
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    For that matter, Hulk also got the drop on Thanos at the beginning of IW. He didn't win that one, but it did catch Thanos off guard.
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    Magic Batons, little disks that can taser Thor to unconscious, we really do not know the limits of all this tech in the MCU for they are magic engineering devices that work to accelerate the plot and suddenly not work when the plot demands
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    Interesting to consider how well Thanos would do against Alioth; the TVA has a remarkably effective cosmic garbage disposal (although it seems like a bit of a redundant step- their kill-you-with-a-touch batons actually send you to the Void where a giant smoke monster... kills you with a touch. Needed by the plot, yes, entirely logical... not so much.), but it's not unstoppable, as Sylvie and Loki demonstrated.

    Also... am I the only one that thinks the Citadel at the End of Time (or whatever it was called) looks remarkably like a rundown version of the Empress Hotel in Victoria, albeit with a turret glued onto it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeChameleon View Post
    Interesting to consider how well Thanos would do against Alioth; the TVA has a remarkably effective cosmic garbage disposal (although it seems like a bit of a redundant step- their kill-you-with-a-touch batons actually send you to the Void where a giant smoke monster... kills you with a touch. Needed by the plot, yes, entirely logical... not so much.), but it's not unstoppable, as Sylvie and Loki demonstrated.
    Thanos could do pretty well against Alioth if he had infinity stones. As could other variants with mind control powers, like Wanda or Agatha. I'm not sure that Alioth can be fought physically though.

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    Thanos could do pretty well against Alioth if he had infinity stones. As could other variants with mind control powers, like Wanda or Agatha. I'm not sure that Alioth can be fought physically though.
    Infinity stones only work within their own little section of the multiverse, so a version of Thanos that had been sent to the end of time would find himself relatively powerless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
    Infinity stones only work within their own little section of the multiverse, so a version of Thanos that had been sent to the end of time would find himself relatively powerless.
    Is that how that works? The stones don't work in the TVA, but neither do Loki's powers, and those worked fine in the Void.

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