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2021-05-14, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Apparently, her name is Miss Minutes.
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2021-05-14, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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...Why is she considered an American citizen?
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2021-05-14, 11:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Does that mean she was "born" in America", talks with "American slang" or is she the American embassy thing?
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2021-05-16, 09:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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I can't wait for the Loki show.
It's time to get my Magikarp on!
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2021-05-16, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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New elevator short clip is out for Loki
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2021-05-17, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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So I guess that Loki is still going to be the supervillain in his show.
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2021-05-18, 04:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-05-18, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-05-19, 03:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Trickster protagonist
And a neat way of getting the Loki from the alternate timeline into the main MCU timeline for future mischief---maybe in Thor 4."Like the old proverb says, if one sees something not right, one must draw out his sword to intervene"
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2021-06-01, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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So Loki 1st episode drops in a week and a few hours change.
And what does the older brother do? He upstages him, for Chris Hemsworth and Taika Waititi (Director but also the rock guy Korg) announced Thor Love and Thunder has finished filming, they took a picture and it will be out in May 2022.Stupendous Man drawn by Linklele
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2021-06-03, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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How is making an announcement for an upcoming movie a week before the show starts upstaging? Not like they dropped the announcement the day of.
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2021-06-03, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-03, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's still not upstaging. The announcement doesn't conflict with anything.
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2021-06-03, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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I did not think of it at the time but this should have been in a blue text for it was tongue in cheek.
But yes Loki and Thor have a sibling rivalry thing that is not their fault it just happened. See Nebula and Gamora , from Guardians 2 of how this type of relationship occurs.
Thus even when Thor does nothing wrong it still can feel like he is taking all the spotlight from Loki. Also this does not excuse Loki from being a weasel dipped in grease.Last edited by Ramza00; 2021-06-03 at 06:33 PM.
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2021-06-03, 04:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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No matter where you go...there you are!
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2021-06-06, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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3 days till Loki
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2021-06-06, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-09, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Episode 1 is out! There is a LOT to unpack here, but I'll just stick to going back through some of my predictions for now:
Spoiler: Episode 1, "Glorious Purpose"
This one ended up true. Mobius (Owen Wilson) played Loki his "Greatest Hits" file and it connected with him quite strongly, so much so that he willingly decided to take the job offer at the TVA once he went back and watched the whole thing. Learning that he was/would be actually the one responsible for Frigga's death, that Odin and Thor did truly love him and he loved them in return, and of course, his ignominious death at Thanos' hands, and his cosmic purpose (see below) ended up being the most effective way to bring him more in line with the outlook of Loki Prime in a hurry.
Okay, so we got an answer to this one. Short version, the Infinity Stones don't mean squat to these guys, and they don't even function in the TVA. The Timekeepers appear to be operating on Living Tribunal ends of the power scale, as further evidenced by the three faces on the wall in the courtroom. Furthermore we learned that "everything that happened with Thanos was supposed to happen" in part because "they (the superheroes) needed to level up" - or as Mobius put it, "achieve their best versions of themselves" - and fast. This apparently was Loki Prime's cosmic role to play, as without the original Avengers we probably wouldn't have the heroes we'd need to face off against whatever the Bigger Fish is going to be in the next Saga.
This of course begs the question of what the hell could be out there that is scaring the TVA enough to enlist a variant into their ranks - more on that below.
Given the villain mentioned at the end, this one is definitely going to be true. Mobius believes it to be Loki himself causing trouble, some darker variant of him - presumably one that achieved all the Glorious Purpose aims that both the original and the protagonist of this series thought they were striving for - and became some kind of time murderer as a result? Oh, and speaking of villains:
Looking like this won't be the case, however there are definitely Kang-adjacent characters already appearing in this one. And another Lovecraft Country alumnus in the MCU
All in all, I'm excited with where this one is going, and I think they got most of the heavy worldbuilding out of the way in this first ep. I'm sure there were dozens of references I missed, I'll be waiting anxiously for the "Easter Eggs and References" videos from my usual stable of YouTubers.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2021-06-09, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-09, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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If you like a speech that occurred in the 1st episode of Loki, there is a similar one in My Drag Brunch with Loki (2019) which is a short story (only 10 pages)
in War of the Realms: War Scrolls (2019) issue #2,
It has 3 short stories in this $2 comic (probably more if you want a physical copy now a days, but it is still available digitally), one of them is about Loki and it is a good character story of what drives him. It is part of the event but the key aspect of a good short story is to see the inner reveal that a character conceals vis the image, drag after all is about reveals and conceals when one does a performance. 🎭Last edited by Ramza00; 2021-06-09 at 11:50 AM.
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2021-06-09, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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OW's character is from the comics, dating back to the 90s (interestingly, a Fantastic Four antagonist) - so while that's possible, I'm not so sure.
As for the... other name you mentioned...
SpoilerYou might be on to something; there was another hint in that direction in the stained glass window at the crime scene. Perhaps Vile!Loki ends up becoming Mephisto, or some analogue thereof?Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2021-06-09, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, I know that show writers refuse to be consistent with their time-travel mechanics, but let's pretend they care.
It looks like Captain America's trip to return the alternate infinity stones to their respective universes was all for nothing, sinceSpoilerthe TVA's main mission is to nuke such universes shortly after their inceptions.
To add insult to injury,Spoilera few probably ended up being used as paperweights.
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2021-06-09, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Agrees with Millstone85 but I am going to make an argument I do not agree with
Spoiler: Avengers Endgame Spoilers and Loki
The stones need to be returned by Steve Roger or else they would have phenomenal cosmic power to affect the Prime Timeline. Roger could do things like end hunger and so on with the stones, the power of D&D wish is at his command.
Now the same tools to prune timelines could probably be used to remove the infinity stones from Steve Rogers or another Avenger. After all every hero has to sleep, or the stones are stored in a vault, and thus the TVA could use the teleportation time doors to quickly appear when Steve is asleep and defeat him with 16x time for even if the Infinity Stones are all powerful an element of surprise is all you need to take 1 or more stones as evident by Infinity War and Endgame.
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Thus Steve had to return the stones for playing with 9th level spell effects just destabilizes the story realm. You have to put the toys back in the toy box, and clean up the sandpit where previous sandcastles were built.
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That is the logic, and I do not entirely agree with it. I feel that is an "easy out" and you made a mistake and we just have to accept it while you do your improv set and you do "and next" to quickly move our attention away from it.
Or you could have planned the whole thing out in the first place and not introduce powers you know are way to powerful in the first place. Why did you choose the time travel rules that was chosen, why did we make Endgame into a time travel plot. People can disagree is my point here.
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2021-06-09, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not sure what you mean by "their respective universes."
SpoilerHe returned them to HIS/THIS universe. Thor 2 Asgard, Avengers 1 New York, Guardians 1 Morag, all were/are part of the Sacred Timeline. By returning them, he kept it that way, which is exactly what kept the TVA happy. Had he not done so and decided to, I dunno, get greedy and run off with all of them - that's likely what would have earned him a visit from Mobius/Hunter and crew.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2021-06-09, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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So…
Spoiler: PredictionI’m guessing by the end of this season the TVA gets nuked to Oblivion by their own timeline-resetters, thus wiping them out of existence and bringing back the multiverse?
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2021-06-09, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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If his goal was to make the Sacred Timeline feel like nothing happened, Cap would need to find a way to:
- put the mind stone back into the scepter.
- put the space stone back into the tesseract.
- put the reality stone back into Jane Foster (lol).
- give the soul stone back to the Red Skull (awkward).
- give the time stone back to the Ancient One (except that's also where Loki1130 is from).
- and for the power stone, fix the issue with Guardians-1 Thanos having travelled to and died in the future.
See some of these issues in animated form.
No, the Ancient One asked the Avengers to return the stones for the sake of the alternate universes they were creating, that's all.
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2021-06-09, 06:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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All that is easy to do if Stephen Strange taught the apple trick to Steve Rogers (same trick with The Vision and Thanos in IW). Use the time stone to reverse the flow of time on just one object.
The hard one is Loki1130, but we are going to hand wave that for the MCU is do not think too hard with continuity.Stupendous Man drawn by Linklele
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2021-06-09, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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