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2021-04-14, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
To be honest, it's your blatant honesty D1 in the last game that made me feel motivated to go ahead and share this this game in D1. That worked out well for the Town last game (until the Serial Killer dominated and won ).
I still feel like holding off for a while and to hear from more folk, or see some death reveals, before naming my buddy. But... that is useful intel.
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2021-04-14, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
If you would like a reason behind my suggestion to lynch totadile, compare their activity last game to their activity this game. They are exceedingly reserved by comparison. I should probably still be the one lynched today, though.
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2021-04-14, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
I'll chime in and say I don't have a neighbor. I'll have to reread your post with neighbor theories when I have more time, but I think it's something we can talk about tomorrow.
OK, I can see that as a reason to go after totodile, even if you aren't voting them right now.
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2021-04-14, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
God damn, I need to fix my sleep schedule.
It is true that totadile posted a lot in the previous game, and not a lot in this one. Some players (like me) consistently have low post rates due to IRL (I'm a college student for example). That doesn't mean he can't have had something come up, but it does still raise some flags.
I also have suspicions that AV might have a role that triggers some effect upon being lynched, so keep that in mind as well.
I'm going to vote for totadileplayz for now, partially because he got me killed last game after I had fulfilled my night immortality condition and I'm still salty about that.
EDIT: I was ninja'd, but what I said still stands.Last edited by Aleph Null; 2021-04-14 at 03:22 PM.
There are 1d20 types of people in the world: people that always roll natural 1 when it matters.
I don't know why, but I think more people have studied linguistics than I have.
...yes, the above sentence is in fact meaningless. But you did a double-take, didn't you?
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2021-04-14, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
I could see a Beast-wolf in this game... Eh, I'll risk keeping my vote where it is. We know nobody can survive a lynch.
I'm going to vote for totadileplayz for now, partially because he got me killed last game after I had fulfilled my night immortality condition and I'm still salty about that.
Oh, wait, no. The wolves managed to kill one person. So almost everyone.Last edited by JeenLeen; 2021-04-14 at 03:27 PM. Reason: fix QUOTE code again
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2021-04-14, 03:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Welp, sorry I missed the start. Almost forgot.
Voting for myself,Book Wombat, as the die says. Probably punishment for being late.Last edited by Book Wombat; 2021-04-14 at 03:41 PM.
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2021-04-14, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
If you are a wolf, that is a remarkably savvy way to show up so late and post, without it looking like a "don't kill me; I am here" suspicious post.
I'm inclined to believe you. A touch frustrated at wanting to figure out how to interpret this, but interpreting it honestly is probably easiest (and I can hope true.)
Since there's not a strong wagon on you, wiling to change your vote to AV in case she is a Beast? Taking that hit is also apt punishment.
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2021-04-14, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
It would be a mighty coincidence if the person who was basically confirmed as the day one Lynch in the recruitment thread turned out to be a Wolf beast.
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2021-04-14, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Well, yeah, but such can happen. I don't thin it's likely, but I'm willing to maximize what I think is best for town in the off-chance such is what happens.
At the least, it's fun to contemplate. At the most (?), I actually do some good.
In case AV is a Beast-wolf...
Writing this on the off-chance such is the case and I die, and thus won't be able to speak later.
Assuming her power says "a random player who voted you dies" and not "a random Town who voted you dies", I think most everyone who stayed on her wagon is vindicated. totaldileplayz maybe a hair less-so, since it could be capitalizing on banter to generate serious town cred (the 'getting away with something' I mentioned when I said why I was originally leaning towards voting one of them.)
It's hard to picture a wolf risking wiping out their faction D1 like that, but maybe someone would take that high-risk:high-reward gamble.
But I think it'd put Book Wombat in the solid Town camp.
It also makes me slightly more suspicious of Cao and Aleph Null, who don't seem to have any strong reason not to vote AV. Nothing incriminating in itself--it's D1, and multiple wagons help give info--but just it's worthwhile to look at who didn't vote the randomly-killing-Beast if someone flips randomly-killing-Beast.
All in all, I think I'd feel comfortable enough if I die D1 but we take out a wolf in exchange. Be fun to stay in the game, but a good D1 ending.
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I also admit I didn't have time to doublecheck I wrote everything correctly above and mighta garbled something. Gotta head pick up dinner for the family. If some of my logic seems blatantly wrong/reversed, it's probably a typo.
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2021-04-14, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
As you may have noticed last game, I had something to play off of. I had the role-list, and I used it, to both say I am here, establish my townliness, and downplay my capabilities. I can't do that snake here. Nor can I actually analyze people's posts because I dont have a lead or something to rationalize the world around. I also made a remark in that game if I didnt have such a powerful role I wouldnt have acted like that. Here, I dont have such a powerful role, and I'm not acting like that.
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2021-04-14, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
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2021-04-14, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
D1 HAS ENDED
Final Votecount:
AlephNull -- Totadileplayz
AvatarVecna -- AvatarVecna
Batcathat -- Book Wombat
Book Wombat -- AvatarVecna
CaoimhinTheCape -- Book Wombat
JeenLeen -- AvatarVecna
totadileplayz -- Avatar Vecna
Avatar Vecna 4
Book Wombat 2
Totadileplaz 1
Avatar Vecna has been eliminated by the townsfolk
They reveal to be:
Will Byers.
You are town neighborhood whisperer and one-shot commuter.
1. Every night, you may send the number of a post of yours containing the word "whisper" and the name of a player you quote in such a post. You will be given the ability to view, but not post in, any non-factional quicktopic chats they possess. (Posting in a chat you are viewing will result in punishment)
2. Once per game as a night action you may commute. No actions will be able to target you, and any actions you take targeting another player will fail. (Note that your neighborhood whisperer does not require targeting a player).
As town, you when the game when all Mafia/US Agents are eliminated.
Reminder night will end at 6:00 PM Eastern Friday afternoon.
Please try to have your night actions, if you have any, in by 5 that day!Last edited by Apogee1; 2021-04-14 at 10:32 PM.
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2021-04-14, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
We just killed our spy.
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Though AV didn't even prock that ability, which seems strange. But I'm not going to doubt the won't lie to you bit.
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2021-04-14, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
I woulda thought a townie up for lynch would claim their power, especially if it was something seer-like (which this essentially is, if she'd see the wolfchat by targeting a wolf.) But I grok why she might not have in this instance.
AV seems like she was in a tough spot.
If she had claimed honestly, I'd think she were lying since it sounds an odd mix of too good and strangely convoluted.
The only "good" save move would be to half-way lie and claim seer, commute tonight, and hope that draws the wolf-kill. But since that was the D1/N1 move last game, well, probably wouldn't have believed her. And I can see her not wanting to risk outting the real seer (if we have one) to the wolves by forcing it to counterclaim. In a sense, she died today to keep the seer from getting killed tonight.
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AV's power seems strong enough that her lack of a Neighbor doesn't discredit my idea of weaker townies being Neighbors.
I'm pretty sure Book Wombat and Cao are not on the same team. But other than that, no real insight based on voting patterns or the Day's flip. Or at least none I feel it's wise to share at Night.
@Bathatcat: FYI that usually we don't speak a lot at Night, since the main Night activity is the wolf NK. It's usually thought it's best to wait until Day to post, lest you just help the wolves pinpoint who to target.
But sometimes folk post stuff if 1) they really want something out in case they die during the Night, or 2) it's something to manipulate the wolves. Or 3) someone is bored and feels like talking, but that option tends to make you look wolfy.
I feel like most if not all of what I'm saying is irrelevant (ponderings on AV's not claiming) or harmless in that it doesn't help the wolves. Or maybe I'm trying to subtly manipulate them
But mainly I'm pointing out to you that this entire post I'm making is usually considered a bad idea in our forum's meta.
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2021-04-14, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Or you know strange thought don't vote for yourself day 1 if your a seer. Heck the only reason I voted for her was because she voted for herself.
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and there's no way in the world she didn't know that since in the meta beforehand I flat out told her.
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2021-04-14, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-14, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Apologies, a small (but notable) mistake was made in AV's flip. It has since been edited.
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2021-04-15, 01:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-16, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-04-16, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
NIGHT ONE IS OVER
DAY TWO BEGINS
Book Wombat has died! They have the following role:
SpoilerBook Wombat, you are Joyce Byers.
You are the town voider.
1. Every night, you may target a player. They will be voided/roleblocked and their action will not occur.
As town, you when the game when all Mafia/US Agents are eliminated.
After a day of debate and paranoia, the townsfolk out someone who had been considered as a possible agent for a long time -- before they were even old enough to be an agent! Well, guess they didn't guess well enough, because another person has disappeared into the depths of the national lab.
Day 2 Will End at 7pm EST sundayLast edited by Apogee1; 2021-04-16 at 06:45 PM.
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2021-04-16, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Book Wombat voided me last night, I'm pretty sure. Unless there's also a wolf voider who voided me. I got "No Results" from an info-gathering power, although it could have come through another means.
Also, I'm pretty sure someone used a Day power on me D1, to let me network with someone at Night. That power failed, which makes me more believe I was voided.
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That Book Wombat's power is one I think Apogee would view as on par or weaker than mine, makes me suspect my Neighbor a touch more. I want some discussion during the Day before I out them, though, so not going to to yet. I probably won't be online again until Saturday night (EST), and, unless my buddy gives me good reason not to, I'll likely name them at that point.
If I didn't have a Neighbor... well, AV's gut feeling ontotaldileplayzmakes me lean that way.
Beyond just AV's feelings: one of the biggest things against him I have is that it seems really odd for the wolves to have killed Book Wombat, since he seemed to have so much heat on him. If I were a wolf, I wouldn't even consider killing BW, since he seemed a likely lynch target D2. But if AV was correct about who the wolves are, maybe totaldileplayz killed his scumbuddy to deflect suspicion?
Meh; it's weak, I admit, and I'd be happy to hear if anyone's Night actions gave useful responses.
Town vig, if you exist and you did kill Book Wombat... speaking up could help a lot.
My buddy claimed baner, but didn't tell me who they targeted. If BW died to a townie, and BW voided me (and thus didn't stop the wolf-kill), then it means my buddy is probably being honest and blocked the wolf-kill.
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I know I said I'd wait to post more, but I just realized how dire today is, so I think we need to share info. As I don't know how much I can be online this weekend, I'm gonna go on and share everything.
Why I'm doing this
Down to 5 players.
Let's assume worst-case and 2 wolves.
So 3 vs 2. We need to hit a wolf today, or it's game over barring some crazy powers.
Even if it's 4 vs 1, that goes to 3 vs 1 on a mislynch and probably 2 vs 1 the following Night. Hmm... acutally, if there's just 1 wolf, I feel pretty comfortable that the Town will win at that final 2 vs 1 vote. So let's assume worst-case and 2 wolves.
My intel
My Neighbor is Aleph Null.
Here's my Role and powers:
Originally Posted by Role
Originally Posted by a Day power?
Originally Posted by feedback
But I think it's safe enough, or my death not harmful enough, that it's good enough for me to share this at the start of D2, when I won't be around to contribute a lot.Last edited by JeenLeen; 2021-04-18 at 12:39 PM.
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2021-04-16, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Spoiler: AvatarVecna
We immediately have our AV wagon in the first three posts, which lasts the day.
Some comments on the game, but nothing really for me to dig into.
Suspicion of totodile.
Explanation of that.
Suspicion of BW, not really relevant anymore.
Conclusion: An AV lynch takes away a threat for whoever is in the mafia team and we know the person with the second most votes (BW) was town anyway. Not sure how much we can take away from that wagon.
Spoiler: Book Wombat
Vote on BW, away from Jeen. BW hadn't shown up yet. Of note, Jeen mentioned he was tempted to vote BW away from AV before this. Turns out both targets were town though.
Self vote, then immediately does what Jeen wants. If he wasn't dead, it would look suspicious.
Last minute switch from Jeen to BW.
Conclusion: BW as a kill must have been to not rock the boat at all. BW didn't give any indication of who they wanted to go after and seems to be basically a blank slate.
It's getting late where I am and don't have time to go in depth really, but I'll start the day voting for AlephNull. Aleph only had a couple posts yesterday, one to say they needed to catch up and the other voting totodile at a point where it didn't end up mattering (even if AV had voiced suspicion without a vote).
When I get more time tomorrow I'll try to have something a bit longer. I'm undecided on totodile and Batcathat (need the reread for those) but I'm feeling good about Jeen for the moment.
Vote Count:
totadileplayz (1): JeenLeen
AlephNull (1): CaoimhinTheCape
Not voting: AlephNull, totadileplayz, Batcathat
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2021-04-16, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
For what it's worth, I told Aleph that I would likely target totaldileplayz, Cao, or Book Wombat. The former two because it was hard to read them as legit Town or a wolf doing sound Town analysis -- though I'm more inclined to trust Cao -- or Book Wombat because he had (as of me stating that) not posted and I wanted to check if he had ghosted or was a wolf pretending to ghost.
I decided to still target BW, hopefully to either catch wolf!BW if he was the NKer, or have evidence to save town!BW if he was in the lead for lynch D2.
Also, I tried and failed to network with Cao. Aleph was not aware of this extra networking power until D2 started.
This is all probably useless info unless a voider other than BW (that is, a wolf-voider) voided me.
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During the Night, I asked Aleph if he had a preference about who I targeted, but he didn't. That actually makes me more inclined to trust him, since I'd think a wolf would care about who I track.
However, I could see wolf!Aleph not caring if 1) all of my three targets are town, or 2) the one wolf among them could do an innocent action.
Or, less likely, if 3) a wolf-voider voided me. But I doubt that because I think they'd prefer to point me the 'right' way via Aleph and void someone with an unknown power.
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2021-04-16, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
[QUOTE=Apogee1;25003454][I]
[*] At no point will I, the narrator, lie to you. There will be no Godfathers, full Janitors, or Tailors. There may be partial redactions of role PMs, investigations, or flips, but alignments will always reveal when a character dies.
You are actively Saying the Game format is lying to us. This, is something that is on you to prove, and should never be assumed.
You will need to tell us on Saturday, Since I am reasonably Certain that Bookwombat didn't die to a vigilante.
I could talk more, but frankly speaking. Everything I have to say is here. Also, since someone is literally saying the game format is lying until their neighbor is confirmed. Jeenleen
What Do I think about The Bookwombat Lynch? I Believe it's a play to make me more suspect. This is far more likely then the inverse, as it does nothing but possibly implicate me. If i were a wolf, I'd want to have someone to throw under the bus, only in a scenario where, I'm not currently suspect would I even be tangentially fine with killing one of the wolf suspects. As a Wolf, it's generally bad regardless, but if you're under hot water, you don't kill a scape goat. It's not even a strategy that would save you if you were implicated if you pointed out since it's wifum. It's not a great play, but it is one. Though, it doesn't actually me more leads.
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2021-04-17, 03:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
Huh. I was feeling so smugly clever when Avatar Vecna was shown innocent after I voted for someone else... and then it turned out Book Wombat was town as well. There's probably some sort of lesson in it for me, but I don't think I'll learn from it.
As I'm more confused than ever (and that's saying something) I think I'll hold off on voting at the moment.
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2021-04-17, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
And just realized that Aleph Null was confirmed to be the neighbor unless Aleph Null defends themself I will vote them.
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2021-04-17, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stranger Things Mafia Game Thread
How does me being the neighbor implicate me in any way? Perhaps I'm missing some leap of logic here?
There are 1d20 types of people in the world: people that always roll natural 1 when it matters.
I don't know why, but I think more people have studied linguistics than I have.
...yes, the above sentence is in fact meaningless. But you did a double-take, didn't you?
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2021-04-17, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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