#1231 - The Discussion Thread

[Blue Dragon]

The Dark One: "Say him to not screw this up."
Thor: "Durkon, my dude!"

Oh, I laughed SO hard at the ringtone, that I think something snapped in my back.

Keep coming!

[Corian]

there was still some doubt about how Commune works in the OotS world and whether Vamp Durkon was using Commune to talk with Hel.

Hmm... I had missed the point on Durkula having had a direct line. I thought for a second it may be a high priest privilege, but that should also apply to Redcloak. So yes, gods are differentially attuned to commune. Or maybe the Dark One just hates nerds, like most bullies

Slightly more serious speculation: The Dark One is keeping apart from other gods, maybe there's something in the way that works that could make commune more difficult?

[danielxcutter]

Is the ringtone a reference? Having it be an angel is still pretty funny though.

[TRH]

Also, shouldn't Thor ask about the world in the rift while he has Durkon on the line?

Durkon doesn't really have much to add beyond that they saw just that, to be fair.

[andreas002]

"Change someone's mind by hitting them" - in Pathfinder (D&D 3.75), there's a feat for that!

[danielxcutter]

"Change someone's mind by hitting them" - in Pathfinder (D&D 3.75), there's a feat for that!

*w h e e z e*

[elros]

I like that Thor’s ringtone for Durkon is MC Hammer.

I didn't get the reference! What song is it?

Whenever Odin talks, I don't know if he is rambling or making a profound statement. If you view everything as a nail, you will reach for a hammer, so maybe Odin is saying that they need to look at the situation differently. Or am I looking too much into it?

[KorvinStarmast]

A thought: If the lyrics change to "here comes the hammer" Redcloak may be the one getting a concussion ...

[Zhorn]

Help... MY SIDES! *wheeze*

This one is brilliant.
Top notch humour.
Loving the work as always, Giant.

I didn't get the reference! What song is it?

MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This
"Hammer Time!" is a key lyric

Whenever Odin talks, I don't know if he is rambling or making a profound statement. If you view everything as a nail, you will reach for a hammer, so maybe Odin is saying that they need to look at the situation differently. Or am I looking too much into it?

It's the inversion of "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

[Shining Wrath]

I didn't get the reference! What song is it?

Whenever Odin talks, I don't know if he is rambling or making a profound statement. If you view everything as a nail, you will reach for a hammer, so maybe Odin is saying that they need to look at the situation differently. Or am I looking too much into it?

I'd say that Papa Odin is cautioning his son not to rely on Warhammer Diplomacy, but it could just be a throwaway funny.

[The MunchKING]

Didn't think I'll get to see this: Durkon lying to his god!
(They resolved to just run away at least two rounds before Xykon showed up!)

"Summarizing" not "lying".

Is the ringtone a reference? Having it be an angel is still pretty funny though.

It's the opening line to M.C. Hammer's "Can't Touch This".

[SpykeMH]

I liked the subtle way Thor addresses that Durkon wasn't killed by Redcloak.
"He tried to implode me" "Well you're not giving me this report in person so..."

[nocoolnamejim]

YMMV on your religious beliefs and what not...

But I like the idea of being literally able to call up whatever god you worship and have him answer, "Jim my dude!"

[danielxcutter]

YMMV on your religious beliefs and what not...

But I like the idea of being literally able to call up whatever god you worship and have him answer, "Jim my dude!"

I'm pretty sure Thor is one of the more chill gods and Durkon's mission is a bit more important than the average cleric(plus he's also higher level than average too).

[Skull the Troll]

I'm pretty sure Thor is one of the more chill gods and Durkon's mission is a bit more important than the average cleric(plus he's also higher level than average too).

As far as Thor is concerned he's the most important follower he's ever had in the history of millions of worlds. That's the only reason commune works as well as a cell phone right now.

[danielxcutter]

That's the main reason yes, but Thor really is pretty chill it seems. TDO is... less chill.

[dancrilis]

That's the main reason yes, but Thor really is pretty chill it seems. TDO is... less chill.

I suspect he is less chill but he might be chill enough - we just don't know.

[Toper]

"Change someone's mind by hitting them" - in Pathfinder (D&D 3.75), there's a feat for that!

I think you used to be able to bonk someone on the head with St. Cuthbert's cudgel to turn them into an enthusiastic worshiper for a day or two, as well...

[nocoolnamejim]

I'm pretty sure Thor is one of the more chill gods and Durkon's mission is a bit more important than the average cleric(plus he's also higher level than average too).

Oh it wasn't really a comment on this specific instance or the comic, more in general. If there is a god, I kind of like the idea of him/her being a casual, chill dude like Thor.

[GregTD]

So, Thor has a special ring tone for Durkon?

Now that is how you know you're special to your God.

[GregTD]

Too bad that Redcloak, even with Warhammer diplomacy, won't change his mind. He has too much invested in his sinking fallacy to invest in other opinions.

That appears to be something that would be true if you were writing the comic

Since you aren't, I think we'll wait and see

True, but I meant that there weren't concussions in any world before that, and the gods added them after that world.

Nope. "Now they just cause concussions." The "just" means that they caused something else, as well as possibly causing concussions.

"I had a diamond and a ruby, now I just have a ruby"

[JeenLeen]

I find Durkon's expression (frown) in the last panel to really add to the humor of Thor's detail about a past world.

Maybe that's Durkon's default expression to a degree, but it seemed really funny in this comic.

[skim172]

I like how the deva functions as a ringtone!

: "I feel this is a under-utilization of my talents."

[Ginasius]

Not a bad strip, but I feel a bit... "anticlimaxed"

[Quizatzhaderac]

Based solely on the pose, I'm imaging the archon is doing an operatic rendition of "can't touch this".

I'm also going to imagine the Elan is doing the M.C. hammer shuffle right about now.

On a more serious note, I'm speculating that maybe Xykon will figure things out (Redcloak's betrayal) first, and then Redcloak will only come along to Thor's plan once The Plan™ is no longer viable.

[Anitar]

So... Can Durkon even hear Odin chiming in? He doesn't seem to respond, and I don't think it would fit with the intended effect of the Commune spell, but...

[DaOldeWolf]

I loved the Warhammer 40k reference.

[CountDVB]

A very wonderful and hilarious strip that does the questions on what one does do when you have to negotiate with a side who doesn't want to help because the first step would be acknowledge they have made a mistake.

Though Lord Odin makes a good point. While it is a play off the old adage of all problems looking like nails when you have a hammer, Odin's phrasing actually still makes sense. Sometimes when you have a pretty simple problem, alot of solutions seem to boil down to accomplishing basically the same thing.

[Psyren]

I hope Thor has better advice than "Okay I trust you, good luck with the combat! Hopefully I don't see you soon!"

: "I feel this is a under-utilization of my talents."

"I'll inform our stenographer"

Nope. "Now they just cause concussions." The "just" means that they caused something else, as well as possibly causing concussions.

"I had a diamond and a ruby, now I just have a ruby"

This is how I read that as well, though certainly I'd prefer the former reading (people can change my mind by hitting me but concussions don't exist) were I actually living in such a world.

[Quizatzhaderac]

I loved the Warhammer 40k reference.

That's probably a reference to gunboat diplomacy , substituting in Durkon's actual weapon.

Also, if it was a table top reference, it would presumably be to Warhammer fantasy.