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Thread: Flanking and Blindness
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2021-04-13, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Flanking and Blindness
So something came up at tonight's gaming session, in which we were not sure how to handle. So I wanted to check with the forum denominator if we handled it correctly in the end.
Simply question really: Can two characters flank an enemy, if one of the characters doing the flanking is blind?
We ended up saying no, because we believed a blind character does not "threaten" an enemy, but can only attack a square. However, we could not find any hard rule explicitly stating this. So, I thought I would ask here.
Our reasoning behind that decision came from the concealment rules, which states that "If you have line of effect to a target but not line of sight he is considered to have total concealment from you. You can’t attack an opponent that has total concealment, though you can attack into a square that you think he occupies."
We believe its the same mechanics when one is blinded, ergo no flanking, but we were not 100% sure.
Any help clearing this up would be great!
Cheers!
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2021-04-13, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Flanking and Blindness
Originally Posted by Combat Rules, Attacks of OpportunityOriginally Posted by Combat Rules, Concealment
Originally Posted by ConditionsLast edited by Eldonauran; 2021-04-13 at 06:58 PM.
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2021-04-13, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Flanking and Blindness
Above is correct - by default, blind creatures don't threaten squares (since those squares have total concealment relative to them), and therefore cannot flank.
With that said though, depending on how long the character has been blind, you could rule that this is one of the "drawbacks they've overcome."Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2021-04-15, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Flanking and Blindness
Thank you both for your answers... I'm glad we got i right!
Cheers!
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2021-04-15, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Flanking and Blindness
You could also read it as the character being attacked counting as flanked... only when the blind character is taking their turn. You do not threaten any spaces and cannot take attacks of opportunity, but you DO have the ability to attack that space on your turn. This even makes rules sense because even if you cannot see the target they still need to avoid the weapon you are waving at them as well as the not blind person also threatening them.
But as soon as the blind person stops swinging they are not a threat.
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2021-04-15, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Flanking and Blindness
Does the blind character have blindsight? If they do then they flank and threaten squares as normal.