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    Would it technically be a cyborg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    Would it technically be a cyborg?
    I guess?
    Replacing the brain (and probably some nerves and stuff) with a cockpit probably counts as a technological augmentation.

    What I'm wondering is- the Tarrasque is effectively immortal and heals over time, right? -is part of the maintenance duty for the Tarras-mech cyborg technicians to re-scoop the scooped out bits when they grow back or do they stay scooped when the mechanical parts are put in their place?
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    So Ardon will want to either pilfer the shop (and his arch-enemy toaster will be there!)
    or he had a secret stash in his hotel room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    So Ardon will want to either pilfer the shop (and his arch-enemy toaster will be there!)
    or he had a secret stash in his hotel room.
    I recall 45 having emptied the store of all money and items before "defecting" and returning to the mother computer. Ardon broke in (with Peanut's help) and found it completely empty before the construct invasion. So I'd rule that off.

    Maybe he wants to retrieve 45's corpse from the ruins of the B&B?

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    I think Ell is forgetting that Fortyfive said himself that she should have seen it coming.
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    Yeah, but Paladin. It's kind of her thing to believe/hope that there is good in everyone.

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    i think today's visuals mean that Ardon plundered something from 45's corpse that he connected to a battery to see if it still can be powered. After confirnation, he followed.
    I find it highly likely that he recovered 45's brain.
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    evidently that was 45's brain, and a jammer Ardon built to disrupt 45's ability to control the robots. From twitter:

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    I reread Fortyfive's last appearance on an archive binge recently; that's Fortyfive's "brain" and the jammer that Ardon built to disrupt his ability to command the construct army; Ardon claimed it could give him control over the robots if he could combine the two.
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    Either Ardon is running to go and shut down all the arms so that Odivallus can be freed without them both just getting grabbed again or I am being just as naive as Odie.

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    Been expecting this ever since El's speech over his corpse.

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    I am thinking that the last panel there will be what gets Fortyfive to change sides. He will be be disgusted that, by his creator's own admission, a filthy organic brain has so completely outmatched the most advanced machine intelligence in the world.
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    Part of me agrees, but part of me feels like this is just Ardon's usual behavior of taking credit for things he didn't actually plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
    Part of me agrees, but part of me feels like this is just Ardon's usual behavior of taking credit for things he didn't actually plan.
    Doesn't that just make it worse?
    Not only was King Computer outplayed by a worthless meatbag, the meatbag did so by sheer luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Doesn't that just make it worse?
    Not only was King Computer outplayed by a worthless meatbag, the meatbag did so by sheer luck.
    I can definitely see that argument!

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    "Really you left one guy to guard our ranger?"

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    Does this complete Odie's character arc? :P

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    It's amusing just how bad Ardon is at being a good person/party member, even when he's trying his best.

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    There's the Odie I know.

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    Is Ardon the only one that doesn't get a new look after dieing and coming back to life?

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    i'm actually surprised this seems to be 45. the red colour had me thinking it was the boss A.I. this whole time.
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    So are his new eyes instead of or in addition to the rocket feet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Lord View Post
    So are his new eyes instead of or in addition to the rocket feet?
    Laser eyebeams?

    Well, D&D logic of character progression meaning getting more and more powerful would imply "in addition to", not "instead of". However, this doesn't matter much seems the story seems to be getting really close to conclusion now. I doubt 45 will get many further adventures to play with these toys. (In an on-panel way, of course. There may be an epilogue that states he'll get to do just that, but if so it'll still be just an epilogue.)
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    What makes you guys think they're eye beams? He holds up a hammer before he fires the beam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
    What makes you guys think they're eye beams? He holds up a hammer before he fires the beam.
    .....because I want it to be eye beams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Lord View Post
    .....because I want it to be eye beams
    As good a reason as any.

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    I guess chest lasers are cool as well, and even if they weren't I think the new rocket boost makes up for it.

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    So, is everything back to normal with the party of are the going to kill each other?
    On a second thought that'd be normal for those guys, wouldn't it?
    Still, I kinda expect 45 to end up fighting the others.
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    I thought that I missed a page and went back, but no it looks like they all agreed off panel to try and convince Fortyfive to join their party again somehow.


    With Ardon not only did they have a purpose in mind for him, but they knew he had motivation to join them without them really needing to convince him.

    This just seems like getting the genocidal robot into their party for no other reason besides completing the set of getting the gang back together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Lord View Post
    I thought that I missed a page and went back, but no it looks like they all agreed off panel to try and convince Fortyfive to join their party again somehow.


    With Ardon not only did they have a purpose in mind for him, but they knew he had motivation to join them without them really needing to convince him.

    This just seems like getting the genocidal robot into their party for no other reason besides completing the set of getting the gang back together.
    Or because the genocidal robot is way more powerful than any of them, and literally the only options are talk it down or die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Or because the genocidal robot is way more powerful than any of them, and literally the only options are talk it down or die.
    Not really? They were holding their own against him even while shackled. He might be more powerful than anyone individually, but there's no way he can take the whole party on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Lord View Post
    I thought that I missed a page and went back, but no it looks like they all agreed off panel to try and convince Fortyfive to join their party again somehow.


    With Ardon not only did they have a purpose in mind for him, but they knew he had motivation to join them without them really needing to convince him.

    This just seems like getting the genocidal robot into their party for no other reason besides completing the set of getting the gang back together.
    I can see why Ardon wants to give another person a chance to atone. It's part of his own redemption. As for the rest of the party, El is obsessed with keeping them together, Peanut will do whatever Odie says, and Odie is a non character whose most prominent character trait is stupidity. He'll do what Ardon wants, because he always does.
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